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Re: Need advice on Torre/Veresov repetoire
Reply #4 - 07/28/04 at 19:00:03
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I have played the Torre Attack and the Colle System and Trompowsky, London System, the Veresov to avoid the main lines with 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 & 1.d4 d5 2.c4, However noone can deny that if you are playing for a win you must learn the main lines. The side line openings are good for beginers but not for real tournament players. Since playing the main lines I have an excellent record with White. You must fight for the initiative otherwise black will equalize quickly. The main lines wont be refuted easily either. Thanks Andrew
  
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Re: Need advice on Torre/Veresov repetoire
Reply #3 - 05/20/04 at 20:56:01
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would taking up the queen's gambit against d5, but keeping the Torre against the Indian defenses be a good start?

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Re: Need advice on Torre/Veresov repetoire
Reply #2 - 05/18/04 at 08:17:34
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I don´t see any special move-order related problems for White. You should not forget though that neither(!) of the systems you mentioned above except for the 150 attack or the Torre vs. Ben-oni promises anything for White. Actually it shouldn´t be too difficult to get an equal position with White, shouldn´t it? So just play your systems but don´t complain if experienced opponents will equalize with relative ease.

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Re: Need advice on Torre/Veresov repetoire
Reply #1 - 05/18/04 at 06:59:57
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I doubt if 1.d4 e6 2.Nf3 f5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 is dangerous for Black, for instance 5.Bxf6 Bxf6 6.e4 fxe4 7.Nxe4 o-o and Black has a smooth development.
  

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Need advice on Torre/Veresov repetoire
05/16/04 at 22:35:36
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I just picked up Nigel Davies' excellent book "The Veresov".  It's a great introduction.  I'm interested in using this opening against queen's pawn defenses.  Does anyone have any good web-links where i might find more theory or discussion?  

I have always opened with 1. d4 and 2. Nf3.  Against indian systems (an early Nf6, but no d5) i have always had good luck with the Torre Attack (3. Bg5).  Unfortunately, the Torre is useless against an early d5.  I tried the london system against d5, but unlike the Torre, it usally leads to awfully stale positions with no advantage to white.  I don't want to spend the time learning reams of theory to play the queen's gambit well.  

It seems the Veresov system make a perfect compliment to the Torre.  They both have a reputation for being a little off-beat, but are fundamentally solid.  Since they both use the bishop at g5 and aim for a timely advance of the e pawn, the veresov should be easy for me to learn.  

Can anyone point out any trouble i might run into playing the following opening repetoire.  My goal is to strive for the classical center if allowed:

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 - 150 attack vs. Pirc
1. d4 d6 2. e4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. Nf3 - 150 attack vs. Pirc

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. Bg5 - Torre Attack
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 b6 3. Bg5 - Torre vs. Queen's Indian
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 c5 3. d5 b5 4. Bg5 - Torre vs. Benoni

1. d4 d5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bg5 - Veresov
1. d4 d5 2. Nc3 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Bg5 - Veresov vs. QGD
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d5 3. Nc3 Bf4 4. Bg5 - Veresov vs. London  
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. Bg5 - Veresov vs. Grunfeld
1. d4 f5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bg5 - Veresov vs. Dutch
1. d4 e6 2. Nf3 f5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 - Veresov vs. Dutch
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