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Re: Uogele help
Reply #3 - 08/15/05 at 18:33:29
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I have a question about the Uogele.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6 5.Nc3 Bg7 6.Be3 Nf6 7.Bc4 0-0 8.Bb3 a5 9.0-0 a4 10.Nxa4 Nxe4 11.Nb5 d6

What to do after 12.Qe2?  This variation is not in any of the usual books or in  Silman's execellent web page.  

Any ideas?

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Re: Uogele help
Reply #2 - 08/15/05 at 08:28:14
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While I play the Accelerated Dragon this is not my preferred line as I play 7...Qa5 instead of 7...0-0. But I did some quick searching of variations in Megabase 2005. Statistics do not tell the whole story so take the 'analysis' below with a grain of salt.

Aside:
Not that it fits directly with your query, but a quick search of Megabase 2005 shows more games choosing 11...Ra6 (43) over 11...d6 (32). The first move also has a higher Best ELO (2700) and results (11...Ra6 = 71% 11...d6 = 81%).


Back to your question:
Of 34 games in MB05, 12.Qe2 (16) is by far the most popular while 12.b6 (9), 12.Re1 (5) and 12.c5 (4) have also been played recently.

The most popular and most currently played reply to 12.Qe2 is 12...Nf6 the knight retreat back to f6. The knight has also been played to c5 and the familiar rook-lift 12...Ra6 has also been played. 12...Bf5 has been played in two games, both wins by White.

Of all Black's 11th moves in MB05, 11...d6 with a score of 81%, has the poorest results. (statistically in MB05)

Here are some games with 11...d6 12.Qe2:

[Event "Alushta Summer 1st"]
[Site "Alushta"]
[Date "2004.05.19"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Taleb, Moussa"]
[Black "Kulicov, Oleg Anatolie"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B35"]
[WhiteElo "2456"]
[BlackElo "2422"]
[PlyCount "128"]
[EventDate "2004.05.13"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "14"]
[EventCountry "UKR"]
[EventCategory "8"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2004.07.06"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. Nc3 Bg7 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Bc4 O-O 8.Bb3 a5 9. O-O a4 10. Nxa4 Nxe4 11. Nb5 d6 12. Qe2 Nf6 13. h3 Ra6 14. Rad1 Bd7 15. c4 Qb8 16. Nb6 Be6 17. Nd5 Bxd5 18. cxd5 Ne5 19. Rc1 Ra5 20. Bb6 Ra6 21.Bd4 Ra5 22. a4 Ned7 23. Rfe1 h6 24. Qe3 b6 25. Bc3 Nc5 26. Bxa5 bxa5 27. Re2 Re8 28. Rce1 Kf8 29. Kh1 Qc8 30. Ba2 Qb8 31. Qa3 Nfd7 32. Bc4 Bf6 33. Qe3 Nxa4 34. b3 Nab6 35. Qxh6+ Kg8 36. f4 Bg7 37. Qg5 Bf6 38. Qg4 Kg7 39. Ra2 Rc8 40.Be2 Rc5 41. Rd1 Qb7 42. Qf3 Rxd5 43. Rad2 e6 44. Nxd6 Qb8 45. Ne4 Rxd2 46. Rxd2 Nd5 47. Bc4 N7b6 48. Bxd5 Nxd5 49. Nxf6 Kxf6 50. Rd4 Kg7 51. Ra4 Qb5 52. Kh2 Kh7 53. Rc4 Kg7 54. Qf2 Qb8 55. Qg3 Qb6 56. f5 exf5 57. Qe5+ Nf6 58. Rc8 Qe6 59. Qxe6 fxe6 60. Ra8 Nd5 61. Rxa5 Kf6 62. Kg3 g5 63. Rxd5 exd5 64. Kf3 d4 1-0


[Event "Biel MTO op"]
[Site "Biel"]
[Date "1999.07.25"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Nataf, Igor Alexandre"]
[Black "Balduan, Markus"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B35"]
[WhiteElo "2504"]
[BlackElo "2355"]
[PlyCount "117"]
[EventDate "1999.07.??"]
[EventType "swiss"]
[EventRounds "11"]
[EventCountry "SUI"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "1999.11.16"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Bg7 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Bc4 O-O 8.Bb3 a5 9. O-O a4 10. Nxa4 Nxe4 11. Nb5 d6 12. Qe2 Ra6 13. c4 Nf6 14. h3 Be6 15.Rad1 Qb8 16. Nb6 Rd8 17. Nd5 Bxd5 18. cxd5 Na5 19. Bc2 Rc8 20. b3 e6 21. dxe6 fxe6 22. Bg5 d5 23. Rfe1 Re8 24. Bd3 Nc6 25. Bb1 Ra8 26. Qf3 Rf8 27. Rxe6 Ne4 28. Qe3 Nxg5 29. Qxg5 d4 30. a4 Qf4 31. Qxf4 Rxf4 32. Be4 Raf8 33. f3 R4f6 34.Rxf6 Rxf6 35. Kf1 Rf8 36. Nd6 Rb8 37.Nxb7 Rxb7 38. Bxc6 Rb6 39. Bd5+ Kf8 40.Ke2 Ke7 41. Kd3 Kd6 42. Bc4 Rb7 43. Re1 Be5 44. f4 Bxf4 45. Kxd4 Rd7 46. Re6+ Kc7+ 47. Bd5 Bd2 48. Rf6 Re7 49. Kc4 Re3 50. Rf3 Re1 51. Rd3 Rc1+ 52. Kb5 Be1 53. Be6 Rc2 54. Rd7+ Kb8 55. Rd8+ Kb7 56. a5 Bf2 57. b4 Re2 58. Rd7+ Kb8 59.Bd5 1-0


[Event "Mitropa Cup 22nd"]
[Site "Pula"]
[Date "2003.05.20"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Balogh, Csaba"]
[Black "Wirig, Anthony"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B35"]
[WhiteElo "2471"]
[BlackElo "2347"]
[PlyCount "105"]
[EventDate "2003.05.17"]
[EventType "team"]
[EventRounds "9"]
[EventCountry "CRO"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2003.07.09"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. Nc3 Bg7 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Bc4 O-O 8.Bb3 a5 9. O-O a4 10. Nxa4 Nxe4 11. Nb5 d6 12. Qe2 Ra6 13. c4 Nf6 14. Rfd1 Bg4 15. f3 Bd7 16. Nac3 Re8 17. a3 Qb8 18. Rac1 Ne5 19. Nd5 Rc6 20. Nxf6+ Bxf6 21.Nc3 Be6 22. Nd5 Bxd5 23. Rxd5 Rec8 24. f4 Nd7 25. Ba4 R6c7 26. Rf1 Nf8 27. Bb5 Nd7 28. Qg4 Nf8 29. b3 Qa8 30. a4 Qa5 31. Qe2 Qc3 32. Rd3 Qa5 33. Rd5 Qb4 34.Qd3 Ne6 35. Bb6 Rc6 36. a5 Nc7 37. Bxc7 R6xc7 38. a6 bxa6 39. Bxa6 Ra8 40. Bb5 Ra3 41. Ba4 Rc5 42. Rd1 Ra2 43. Qe3 Rxd5 44. Rxd5 Ra1+ 45. Kf2 Qa3 46. Kg3 Rc1 47. Rd3 Qa1 48. Bc6 Re1 49. Qf3 Rh1 50. Kh3 Qg1 51. Qg3 h5 52. Bd5 Kg7 53. f5
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Re: Uogele help
Reply #1 - 07/20/05 at 08:29:23
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Aren’t there any Accelerated Dragon players out there who have anything to say?  Ok, I’ll give it a try, even though I have never played the Accelerated Dragon, and when I do play against it, I’ve only used the 6.Nxc6 bc6 7.e5 lines.  So, being totally unfamiliar with the structure that Bart is asking about, I might not be aware of something that was refuted long ago.

It seems to me that black should not have any difficulty against 11.Nb5 and 12.Qe2.  If I was required to play this position at a tournament, I wouldn’t like my knight being loose on e4, so I’d probably play 12…Nf6.  Yes, that allows white to have two bishops:  13.Nb6 Ra6 14.Nxc8 Qxc8, but so what?  My plan is to play Na5 and then either Nc4 or d5.  My rook on a6 could get involved laterally, perhaps over to e6 after I play d5.  Another idea is to play Ng4 at some point if white takes my knight on c4.  Also, after Bxc4 bc4, black could try Qc6 with the idea of Qa4 if Nd4.  These plans feel very easy and safe.  I don’t see what white can do to stop them.
  
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Uogele help
07/09/05 at 23:49:07
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Hi
I have a question about the Uogele.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6 5.Nc3 Bg7 6.Be3 Nf6 7.Bc4 0-0 8.Bb3 a5 9.0-0 a4 10.Nxa4 Nxe4 11.Nb5 d6

What to do after 12.Qe2?  This variation is not in any of the usual books or in  Silman's execellent web page. 

Any ideas?

???
« Last Edit: 07/10/05 at 21:03:13 by simpsonb »  
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