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Re: Why are they called indians??
Reply #5 - 11/11/05 at 18:17:40
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I think I made a mistake when I said Tartakover.   Embarrassed Tarrasch sounds right to me too.
  
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Re: Why are they called indians??
Reply #4 - 11/09/05 at 08:41:45
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I'm inclined to agree with MNb, as Tarrasch was very dogmatic about classical principles. Unless I'm seriously mistaken, I think Tartakower himself was among those who got swayed by hypermodern ideas right? Correct me if i'm wrong.
  

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Re: Why are they called indians??
Reply #3 - 11/09/05 at 06:03:25
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I have read the same story as S_F, but with Tartakower replaced by Tarrasch - which seems likely to me, as Tartakower himself has played a couple of innovative openings.
  

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Re: Why are they called indians??
Reply #2 - 11/09/05 at 02:38:44
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Strptzr's version is different from what I heard.

When the Hypermoderns first started making the fianchetto really popular, Seveilly Tartakover sneered at the opening choices, claiming they were all indians.  There was the left (queen's) and the right (king's) Indian, and Tartokover simply believed these were mistakes, which is why he gave them joke names.  

He may have tied the joke to the way Indians played chess (they didn't have a castling rule, so this style of development did have some popularity in India.  Tartakover and others believed these were simply bad openings, and the Hypermoderns embraced the name in a show of defiance against established thinking.
  
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Re: Why are they called indians??
Reply #1 - 11/08/05 at 16:27:26
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Nope. They are called Indians because it was believed that in Indian chess pawns could not move further than one field, even initially.
  
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Why are they called indians??
11/08/05 at 12:17:53
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I was wondering why the Bogo and Nimzo are called indians. The missing Fianchetto is kindof a requisite isnt it? I mean the Benoni has a better chance of becoming and indian woulnt you agree?
  
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