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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #32 - 11/06/09 at 05:28:36
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Stigma wrote on 11/06/09 at 02:35:24:
I agree with MNb. Advantage, schmadvantage!

When to play the Grand Prix? When you have some knowledge of it, like it, and can identify it as uncomfortable to face for a particular opponent.

Even when I'm White I need an error from Black to win. So a lot of preparation is really about finding the territory where I will feel more comfortable than my opponent, thus increasing the chance of error on his/her part.



Couldn't agree more... I even play 1 e4 c5 b4! I don't think white or black gets an advantage its just = but I play it cause its my territory and on the right opponent they are uncomfortable. I also play e4 c5 c3  e4 c5 f4 and e4 c5 nf3 anything Be2 so I have plenty of antis. I try to pick the one that will annoy my opponent the most.
  
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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #31 - 11/06/09 at 02:35:24
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I agree with MNb. Advantage, schmadvantage!

When to play the Grand Prix? When you have some knowledge of it, like it, and can identify it as uncomfortable to face for a particular opponent.

Even when I'm White I need an error from Black to win. So a lot of preparation is really about finding the territory where I will feel more comfortable than my opponent, thus increasing the chance of error on his/her part.
  

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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #30 - 11/06/09 at 01:59:41
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I will tell you a secret. No advantage can be found against the Najdorf either. Conclusion: 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3/2.Nf3 d6 =. That doesn't people prevent from playing this as White.
I will tell you another secret. 1.f4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.e4 a6 4.Nc3 e6 is also equal.
Correct logic would phrase: as White cannot prove an advantage anyway after 1.e4 c5 and after 1.f4 he/she should turn to another first move. That is not my logic though.
  

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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #29 - 11/05/09 at 13:13:33
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Correct logic would phrase that as : no white advantage can be found after... There's quite a gap between these two.
  
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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #28 - 10/30/09 at 02:19:10
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Really? So a black advantage has been proven after 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 d6 3.f4 ?
  

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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #27 - 10/29/09 at 08:45:49
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To ply back to the subject : the correct answer has been given elsewhere on this forum by Tracke. GPA only after 1.f4, c5 2.Nf3, Nc6
(3. e4, ... 4.Bb5).
  
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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #26 - 10/29/09 at 01:48:34
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Mate in one.
  

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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #25 - 10/28/09 at 19:49:10
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a good flexible waiting move


What more can a man ask for ?
  
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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #24 - 10/23/09 at 14:33:53
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nyoke wrote on 10/21/09 at 21:48:37:
Yes, the O'Kelly ! I'm always surprised it isn't more popular, as it is a such an excellent way to cope with the worst anti-sicilians...



Well technically I wouldn't call the O'Kelly as you can't reach "mainline" open O'Kelly anymore nor can white play the prefered antidotes 3. c4 or 3. c3. It is in my book a good flexible waiting move. After 1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 a6 3. Nf3 you still have loads of possibilities. This also is true for the GPA and closed sicilian.
  
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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #23 - 10/21/09 at 21:48:37
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Yes, the O'Kelly ! I'm always surprised it isn't more popular, as it is a such an excellent way to cope with the worst anti-sicilians...
  
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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #22 - 10/21/09 at 00:08:04
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A najdorf player can also play 2.a6 (as suggested by R. Palliser).
See his book Fighting Anti-Sicilians 2007.
  
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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #21 - 10/01/09 at 20:49:49
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No problem ! If you've read the hitchhiker's guide to hell (by one D. Alighieri) you will remember that the ruler of the place is kept 'on the rocks'...
  
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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #20 - 10/01/09 at 18:06:50
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When they serve ice-cold lemonade in Hell.
  

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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #19 - 09/29/09 at 20:26:33
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What is White's idea here?


Simply go on towards the Polar Bear : 3.g3  4. Bg2, I guess. Why should Black hold back his queen's pawn from jumping into d5 ?
Although Taylor recommends 3.e4 and Larsens system (Be2)  but of course closed and GPA remain possible, too.
  
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Re: When to Play Grand Prix Attack?
Reply #18 - 09/19/06 at 11:29:17
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Not only that, but the English and Perenyi Attacks do not compare well with their big cousin the Keres.

P.S.  1.f4 c5 ; 2. Ktf3 g6 was not mentionned in either of the threads devoted to the Bird move-order. What is White's idea here?
  
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