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Re: Strange Exchange Variation
Reply #9 - 06/18/11 at 18:15:34
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Markovich wrote on 06/13/11 at 18:32:22:
breizatao wrote on 06/09/11 at 19:35:14:
MNb wrote on 05/05/11 at 15:49:18:
devinjc wrote on 07/20/06 at 23:12:30:
Can white get anything from 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.h3?



5...f5!? is a very interesting reply. I have played many games and obtained good results.
a) 6.exf5 e4! 7.Ne5 Bxf5 =
b) 6.Nxe5 Qd4 and Qxe4 =
c) 6.Nc3!? Nf6 7.Qe2 Bd6 8.exf5 Qe7 9.g4 e4 not clear
d) 6.d3 fxe4 7.dxe4 Qxd1+ 8.Kxd1=
e) 6.O-O fxe4 7.Nxe5 Qd4 8.Qh5+ g6 9.Nxg6 hxg6 10.Qxg6 Kd8 11.d3 Ne7 12.Bg5?! (12. Qxe4) 12... Qg7 13.Bxe7 Kxe7 14.Qxe4 Kd8 15.Kh1? Bxh3 16.gxh3? Rxh3 mate NN-F.Fournier, ICC, 2004 (10'+0")


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Re: Strange Exchange Variation
Reply #8 - 06/13/11 at 18:32:22
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breizatao wrote on 06/09/11 at 19:35:14:
MNb wrote on 05/05/11 at 15:49:18:
devinjc wrote on 07/20/06 at 23:12:30:
Can white get anything from 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.h3?



5...f5!? is a very interesting reply. I have played many games and obtained good results.
a) 6.exf5 e4! 7.Ne5 Bxf5 =
b) 6.Nxe5 Qd4 and Qxe4 =
c) 6.Nc3!? Nf6 7.Qe2 Bd6 8.exf5 Qe7 9.g4 e4 not clear
d) 6.d3 fxe4 7.dxe4 Qxd1+ 8.Kxd1=
e) 6.O-O fxe4 7.Nxe5 Qd4 8.Qh5+ g6 9.Nxg6 hxg6 10.Qxg6 Kd8 11.d3 Ne7 12.Bg5?! (12. Qxe4) 12... Qg7 13.Bxe7 Kxe7 14.Qxe4 Kd8 15.Kh1? Bxh3 16.gxh3? Rxh3 mate NN-F.Fournier, ICC, 2004 (10'+0")


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Re: Strange Exchange Variation
Reply #7 - 06/13/11 at 14:52:45
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Main moves for white (5. 0-0, 5. Nc3) defend e4 treatening take the e5 pawn (also 5.d4, solving the tension too early)  thus forcing black to defend it and more or less commiting himself.  Looking things from this point of view 5. h3 cannot be very challenging, so many moves probably will do well for black. I also like 5...c5 followed by Bd6-Ne7-c6 (g6). The position would resemble and improved version for black of the delayed exchange variation where an early h3 is not the most useful move and white does not play d4...
  
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Re: Strange Exchange Variation
Reply #6 - 06/09/11 at 19:35:14
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MNb wrote on 05/05/11 at 15:49:18:
devinjc wrote on 07/20/06 at 23:12:30:
Can white get anything from 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.h3?



5...f5!? is a very interesting reply. I have played many games and obtained good results.
a) 6.exf5 e4! 7.Ne5 Bxf5 =
b) 6.Nxe5 Qd4 and Qxe4 =
c) 6.Nc3!? Nf6 7.Qe2 Bd6 8.exf5 Qe7 9.g4 e4 not clear
d) 6.d3 fxe4 7.dxe4 Qxd1+ 8.Kxd1=
e) 6.O-O fxe4 7.Nxe5 Qd4 8.Qh5+ g6 9.Nxg6 hxg6 10.Qxg6 Kd8 11.d3 Ne7 12.Bg5?! (12. Qxe4) 12... Qg7 13.Bxe7 Kxe7 14.Qxe4 Kd8 15.Kh1? Bxh3 16.gxh3? Rxh3 mate NN-F.Fournier, ICC, 2004 (10'+0")
  
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Re: Strange Exchange Variation
Reply #5 - 05/05/11 at 15:49:18
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devinjc wrote on 07/20/06 at 23:12:30:
Can white get anything from 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.h3?

I would strongly consider a setup with Be6, Qd7, Bd6 and Ne7 in some order, eventually castling queenside. 5.h3 might become a serious weakness indeed.
  

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Re: Strange Exchange Variation
Reply #4 - 05/05/11 at 13:24:23
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devinjc wrote on 07/20/06 at 23:12:30:
Can white get anything from 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.h3? The idea being to continue as in the 5.0-0 line whilst avoiding 5...Bg4. I suppose that 5..h5 6.0-0 Bg4 would transpose, although white doesn't have to castle (i.e. he can try to prove that 5...h5 is not a useful move).

I guess the most prinicpled reply from black, and probably best, is 5..c5. It doesn't seem to me that white has any advantage in, for example, 5...c5 6.0-0 f6 7.d3 Be6 8.Be3 b6 9.Nd2, and it seems equal.


If I were Black I would strongly consider 5...Ne7, which is a decent move even after 5.0-0.  Black eventually plays ...Ng6 and White may come to regret that little weakness in his kingside.
  

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Re: Strange Exchange Variation
Reply #3 - 05/04/11 at 15:26:40
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I agree nothing really to fear from black after bg4.  you just need to book up a little bit even Nbd2 is a good move alongside Be3
  
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Re: Strange Exchange Variation
Reply #2 - 04/27/11 at 19:34:44
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5.00 Bg4 6.h3 h5 7. d3 Qf6

8.Be3 Bxf3!? 9.Qxf3 Qxf3 10,gf3 Bd6

11.d4

(11.Nc3 Ne7 12.Ne2 Ng6 13.d4 f6)

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Re: Strange Exchange Variation
Reply #1 - 09/22/06 at 01:25:23
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Hello,

the Question is why to avoid 5.00-Bg4 ? Its a good line for White with a lot of chances in the Endgame. 6.h3-h5 7. d3-Qf6
8.Be3(!?) with nice Ideas. Take a look in the new book from Kindermann about the exchange Spanish

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Strange Exchange Variation
07/20/06 at 23:12:30
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Can white get anything from 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.h3? The idea being to continue as in the 5.0-0 line whilst avoiding 5...Bg4. I suppose that 5..h5 6.0-0 Bg4 would transpose, although white doesn't have to castle (i.e. he can try to prove that 5...h5 is not a useful move).

I guess the most prinicpled reply from black, and probably best, is 5..c5. It doesn't seem to me that white has any advantage in, for example, 5...c5 6.0-0 f6 7.d3 Be6 8.Be3 b6 9.Nd2, and it seems equal.
  
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