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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #37 - 02/19/14 at 10:27:38
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White is better in the 6...Bh5 line, I think it can be archived as unsound.
One good idea (in the mainline) is Solak's plan with Nd2, Qe3!, Nf3 and Qe1, when it's actually white the one who attacks on the queenside, and this plan works even if Black delays 0-0-0 for a while.
There are also the ideas with Kf1, but I like Solak's plan best.
  
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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #36 - 02/14/14 at 10:00:24
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There is an article on this line in "dangerous weapons:the ruy lopez", it could be a good starting point if you're interested in this variation.
Declining with 7.d3 (which by the way seems to be a common reaction from surprised club players in my experience) gives black a very comfortable game after the standard f6-Bd6-c5 plan.
  
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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #35 - 02/14/14 at 08:01:07
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Does any one has any improvements for black on 5.......Bg4 6. h3 Bh5.I think so this line is not explored much..White could simply decline the sacrifice with d3 and play
  
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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #34 - 09/02/11 at 10:30:59
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So why choose this system for Black?!?!

imo there are more efficient ways to fight against the Exchange Ruy as Black
  

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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #33 - 09/01/11 at 13:26:49
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Claus Jensen wrote on 09/01/11 at 12:51:16:
Pavlovic recommends in his book "Fighting the Ruy Lopez"
5...Bd6 in the line

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.0-0 Bd6

which was recommended to Pavlovic by Gligoric and also has been played regularly by Mark Hebden.


If now 6.d4 then exd4 7.Qxd4 f6 gives white a choice of different ideas:

1) Develop "quietly" Be3, Nbd2 after which Nc4 is an option
2) Aim for a quick e4-e5 break
3) Play c4 intending c5 to put pressure on the d6 bishop
4) Exchange dark squared bishops
  

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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #32 - 09/01/11 at 12:51:16
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Pavlovic recommends in his book "Fighting the Ruy Lopez"
5...Bd6 in the line

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.0-0 Bd6

which was recommended to Pavlovic by Gligoric and also has been played regularly by Mark Hebden.
  

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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #31 - 04/27/11 at 02:34:03
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dfan wrote on 04/26/11 at 16:57:37:
Markovich wrote on 04/25/11 at 21:35:08:
Recently I looked at 5...Ne7 and formed a fairly high opinion of it.  I've never played it, however.  Does anyone have any thoughts about it?

There's a fair amount on 5...Ne7 in Johnsen & Johannessen (it's their backup line).


Thanks.  Funny, I have that on my shelf.
  

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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #30 - 04/26/11 at 16:57:37
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Markovich wrote on 04/25/11 at 21:35:08:
Recently I looked at 5...Ne7 and formed a fairly high opinion of it.  I've never played it, however.  Does anyone have any thoughts about it?

There's a fair amount on 5...Ne7 in Johnsen & Johannessen (it's their backup line).
  
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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #29 - 04/26/11 at 16:21:24
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OstapBender wrote on 04/26/11 at 16:00:21:
There's an interesting Van der Weide-Wells game from 2002 which continues 6.Nxe5 Qd4 7.Qh5.


That's quite a main line, about which there was a Yearbook article a couple of years ago.
  
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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #28 - 04/26/11 at 16:00:21
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Markovich wrote on 04/25/11 at 21:35:08:
Recently I looked at 5...Ne7 and formed a fairly high opinion of it.  I've never played it, however.  Does anyone have any thoughts about it?

There's an interesting Van der Weide-Wells game from 2002 which continues 6.Nxe5 Qd4 7.Qh5.
It was annotated by Kindermann at his chessgate training site:
http://chessgate.de/training/training_kindermann/training_kindermann.html
(although this link does not seem to be working at the moment)
  

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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #27 - 04/25/11 at 21:35:08
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Recently I looked at 5...Ne7 and formed a fairly high opinion of it.  I've never played it, however.  Does anyone have any thoughts about it?
  

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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #26 - 04/25/11 at 19:50:49
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5......Qd6 used to be used quite a bit in the 80's.  I use it today when I face the exchange.  It has a solid positional base and puts white out of book rather quickly if he is a younger player or doesnt know much theory.  In most texts today it is listed in the sidelines portion.

Soltis wrote a well annotated book called Winning With the Ruy Lopez Exchange Variation.  He devotes several pages to it, attributing the idea to World Championship tier Bronstein.

After 6. d3 Blacks basic plan is to stop white from playing d4.  He can do this in several differense methods.  And once white does get in d4, black needs to setup to take on e5 with pieces and not the f pawn.  The line is very easy for black to play and most people playing white are not prepared for it. 

5.......Bg4 is much more heavy in theory and does not give black real counterchances unless he wants to muddle in the lines with 6. h3 Bh5. 

People playing the white side of the Spanish Exchange are tricky opponents and you should not write off what they are trying to do in the opening.  If black gets inactive he is absolutely toast.  White can force you to trade down into an awful ending. 

I learned endings playing through the pawn and king position after the bishop exchange on c6.  I suggest you try this against a computer program with all the pieces removed and just the pawns and kings from both sides of the board.  Very instructive ending.
  
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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #25 - 03/07/11 at 18:50:29
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5...Qd6 is an old main line.
  
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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #24 - 03/07/11 at 18:43:37
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What about 5... Qd6!? has anyone seen this variation played at the high levels before? It is going on now in a game between IM Michael Brooks and GM Gregory Kaidanov. Kaidanov has rather quickly achieved a winning position.

Game:
6. d3 Ne7 7. Nbd2 Ng6 8. Nc4 Qe6 9. Ng5 Qf6 10. d4 Be7 11. Nxe5 Nxe5 12. f4 Nc4 13. b3 Bg4 14. Qd3 Be2 15. Qxe2 Qxd4 16. Kh1 Qxa1 17. Qxc4 Bxg5 18. fxg5 0-0-0 19. c3 Qxa2 20. Bf4 Rd7 21. h3 Qa5 22. Qe2 Qxc3 23. Rf3 Qd4 24. Kh2 Re8 25. e5 Kb8 26. Bg3 a5 27. Qe1 b6 28. Qf1  Qd5 still going but not for long.
  
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Re: Understanding the Ruy Lopez (Exchange Variation)
Reply #23 - 03/05/11 at 04:16:05
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Can anyone provide any insight or updates on the Exchange line recommended in Dangerous Weapons:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.0-0 Be7

Any recent developments?
  

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