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Re: Zurich variation any good for black?
Reply #6 - 02/09/09 at 19:25:21
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I must say that this stuff looks better for White to me, and I guess 15 ...bc runs into the same reply? Any more thoughts on this, drkodos?

Looking at this line recently, I found myself not liking Vigorito's line where White castles queenside and wondered if there are alternatives for Black. After 6 Bg5 h6 7 Bd2 0-0 8 a3 Bc3 9 Bc3, how about 9 ...a5, meeting 10 e4 with 10 ...Qe7 or 10 ...a4 and allowing e4-e5, as successfully tried in the games Ippolito--Kelson, Varga--Gyorgos and Williams--Quinn? Does Vigorito say anything abut this, or anyone know of anything seriously wrong with it?
  
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Re: Zurich variation any good for black?
Reply #5 - 08/12/08 at 15:27:19
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Okay Vigorito thinks White is better in this middlegame because of the two bishops but he doesn't consider your 14 ... c5 move. This is the situation:

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I don't know what you have in mind here but I couldn't resist analysing a bit. After 15. dxc6 (e.p.) Bf5!? 16. Bd3 Qg5+ 17. Be3 Qxg2 18. Rhg1 Qf3 19. Bxh6 things looks messy for Black. How does your own analysis run, mr drkodos?


  
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Re: Zurich variation any good for black?
Reply #4 - 08/11/08 at 19:48:56
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CheckMate wrote on 08/05/08 at 14:13:40:
You should get Vigorito's Challenging the Nimzo-Indian, it includes a chapter on the Zurich. I always thought this line difficult to crack and annoying to White but Vigorito has some interesting ideas how to combat it.


 
Perhaps the lines need an update.  I have found the 5.Nf3 d6 6.Bg5 h6 7.Bd2 lines to be less good for White that I had gleaned from the book. I think equality, perhaps.  6. ...0-0 8.a3 Bxc3  9.Bxc3 Qe7

In this line Vigorito suggests 10. e4 but I have found that this gives Black excellent play after 10. ...e5 11. d5 Nd4 12. Nxd4 (Bxd4!?) exd4 13.Bxd4 Ne4  14.0-0-0 c5!

What is the current fashion White is using to maintain opening advantage v the Zurich?    Sad   I don't know.   Undecided



  

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Re: Zurich variation any good for black?
Reply #3 - 08/05/08 at 17:42:34
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HgMan wrote on 08/05/08 at 17:10:40:
What is the Zurich variation?


1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 Nc6
  
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Re: Zurich variation any good for black?
Reply #2 - 08/05/08 at 17:10:40
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What is the Zurich variation?
  

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Re: Zurich variation any good for black?
Reply #1 - 08/05/08 at 14:13:40
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You should get Vigorito's Challenging the Nimzo-Indian, it includes a chapter on the Zurich. I always thought this line difficult to crack and annoying to White but Vigorito has some interesting ideas how to combat it.

  
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Zurich variation any good for black?
08/05/08 at 12:54:35
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Is  the Zurich variation in the Nimzo indian theoretically any good? Statistics show black scoring quite poorly, even when both sides are equally rated, what could be the reason for this?

I asked this question in another part of the forum regarding something unrelated but I thought it would be a good idea to pose the same question here among all Nimzo folks.
  
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