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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #31 - 03/27/09 at 22:19:28
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At the risk of being old-fashioned or something, I don't think you can expect a standard sort of opening book to pay much if any attention to possibilities like 2...ef 3. Nf3 Bc5 or 3...Nc6 4. d4 d6; that's more the province of primers on the order of, say, Michael Basman's "Chess Openings."      
  
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #30 - 03/27/09 at 21:27:30
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I think part of the problem here is that authors like Tait & Shaw get so obsessed with Fritz analysis of the solid lines that they cannot see the woods for the trees.  No doubt the potential authors get depressed with the workload and editing problems of such a complex system.

What most of us want is a straightforward OTB battle manual for the KG, not some obscure but solid line in the classical defence that runs to 5 pages of analysis to move 30.

I'm a lower intermediate and so most of my KG games are well out of book by move 10 anyway.
Many Black players opt for questionable stuff like 2...exf4 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.d4 d6 or 2...exf4 3.Nf3 Bc5 & an overview of these commonly played lines & others would be of more use.
Why are these moves not so good?  What are the thematics of these commonly played positions?
 
Writing a tome with deep analysis for GM quality play seems rather odd to me, since no GM's play this opening with regularity anymore & the only possible people to benefit would be top-end CC players.

Intermediate (& better) club players play the KG regularly, so why not pander to the mass market & dare I say dumb it down a little?

A case of K.I.S.S for these authors, perhaps?
  
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #29 - 03/03/09 at 19:50:47
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One recently popular idea that appears not to work, however, is 1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5 3.exd5 c6.  After 4.Nc3! exf4 5.Bc4! Qh4+ 6.Kf1 f3 7.d3 fxg2+ 8.Kxg2, the position favors White, I opine.


Markovich I think you are to pessimistic:
(1) I agree that Black is worse in your line after 8....Bg4. However, 8...Nf6 is not exactly refuted (Ivanchuck-Piket, 1997). Piket passed up a good line to exchange into an unclear endgame.
(2) I think that after 5.Bc4 black should answer 5....Nf6:
A) 6.dxc6,Nxc6 7.Nf3,Bc5 gives black sufficient compensation (Vasilevich-K. Lahno, Moscow, 2008)
B) 6.d4,cxd5 transfers into a line of the Bishops Gambit that is perfectly acceptable for Black (Bezold-Almazi, Altensteig, 1993 for example). Black can also contemplate 6...Nxd5.
C) 6.Nf3 transfers to the Modern Defense.

6.d4,Bd6 is less accurate as white can transfer to a position from the modern defense where he has a slight endgame advantage.
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #28 - 03/03/09 at 19:04:38
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Any news?

When will the book be out???
  
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #27 - 02/22/09 at 18:31:20
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Hey guys, do you have suggestions or ideas how new book from Quality Chess about KG should look, and what should include?

Perhaps can Mr. Aagaard or Mr. Shaw answer on following questions?

a) which mainlines are recommended
b) is there any positional or endgame introduction
c) how is theory structured
d) do we have quick repertoire scans
e) are there any improvements regarding existing theory
f) will the book match latest oracle by Thomas Johansson "The Fascinating King's Gambit"
  
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #26 - 02/21/09 at 11:01:47
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If either Shaw's or Tait's KG books come out I will probably buy them & if they're anything like as good as Gallagher's Winning with the King's Gambit then I will recommend them in a forum I use on a site with 250,000 active members.
May help shift a few copies.
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #25 - 12/19/08 at 14:10:56
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Jacob Aagaard wrote on 10/26/08 at 08:53:02:
This book has unfortunately been delayed a bit, as other authors have finished books that we are producing. This is the problem of multi-tasking.

John has dedicated most of 2008 to the study of the King's Gambit and I fear that he might have hit the place where he knows too much and have written too little.


I understand how that is

rossia wrote on 11/10/08 at 20:33:03:
King's Gambit is very hard opening to play, much harder is to write a good book about it. Everymanchess has abondoned their project "King's Gambit Uncensored" by Tait.


actually it's not completely dead as a manuscript, but I've been too busy with editing to do much at all on it recently
  

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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #24 - 12/12/08 at 10:46:38
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I wait a whole year for this book, and only recently I sadly witnessed that the delay may be terminal. What a disaster.

Can you assure me Mr. Aagaard that this is not the case? Cry
  
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #23 - 11/11/08 at 13:04:36
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I think that a strong player could easily crack up over the task of writing a "Play the King's Gambit" repertoire book.  On the one hand, there is an enormous mass of dubious 19th-century theory, ramified and "improved" upon by hordes of latter-day adherents, much of which leads to =+.  Many of these positions are best beheld in a mirror, lest looking at them directly turn one into a raving lunatic: the Rice Gambit or the Double Muzio, for example.  On the other hand, there are several effective modern defenses, including the Modern proper and the Modern Cunningham.  

One recently popular idea that appears not to work, however, is 1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5 3.exd5 c6.  After 4.Nc3! exf4 5.Bc4! Qh4+ 6.Kf1 f3 7.d3 fxg2+ 8.Kxg2, the position favors White, I opine. E.g. 8...Bg4 9.Qd2.  (It's a transpo to a known position of the Bishop's Gambit, of course.) Another fairly recent idea, 1.e4 e5 2.f4 Qh4+ 3.g3 Qe7 4.Nc3 exf4, I suspect on account of 5.Nf3 d5 6.Kf2! a little-known move that seems to refute Black's conception.  In surprisingly many KGA positions, Kf2 is the right answer to Black's queen on e7.
  

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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #22 - 11/10/08 at 20:33:03
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Jacob Aagaard wrote on 10/26/08 at 08:53:02:
John has dedicated most of 2008 to the study of the King's Gambit and I fear that he might have hit the place where he knows too much and have written too little.


This is the truth.

King's Gambit is very hard opening to play, much harder is to write a good book about it. Everymanchess has abondoned their project "King's Gambit Uncensored" by Tait. Not enough stamina?  Undecided Undecided Undecided
  
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #21 - 11/10/08 at 17:21:29
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Yesterday I had a new look at Johansson's FKG (Bishop KG) and have indeed changed my mind. The opening is certainly playable, and much more than 2.c3 in the Sicilian, if I may say so.

Toppy, abstain.


P.S.: I was also surprised at the number of games still played in 2007-2008 in MegaBase
  

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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #20 - 10/26/08 at 19:53:38
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good thing i don't play KG.
  
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #19 - 10/26/08 at 19:17:57
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rossia wrote on 10/26/08 at 13:12:37:
We all do hope that all articles from this site about KING'S GAMBIT will be included, or better said, studied during writing a book:

Here is an extensive list with themes and links:

KG convert: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1172299697
Death of King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1051657971
Question: King's Gambit - FalkbeerCounterGambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1183146590
KG (starting out by myself): http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1181744601
Bishop's Gambit idea: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1180804929
King's Gambit - Hanstein (3 Nf3 g5 4 Bc4 Bg7): http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1180629571
Starting out with the King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1172147953
King's gambit - Estrin and Glazkov book: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1175357469
King's Gambit Declined - Trouble castling!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1174873250
Help with King's Gambit - Cunningham Defense: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1177291713
Advice on King's Gambit Cunningham defense please: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1175210162
A bust to the Kings gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1173396033
KG: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1174578820
Falkbeer 3...exf4!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1171277123
King's Gambit line: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1170355343
Help! King`s gambit questions!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1169261084
A new look at the King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1133354340
Sad coverage of the King's gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1160757630
KG Wagenbach Defence 3...h5!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1152772884
The Fascinating King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1105472123/0
KGD: Schlemmer Counter Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1152957715
KG - Fischer Defence: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1144000928
King's Gambit 2...Bc5 3.Qh5!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1076620899
Hanstein Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1087669402
An early ...f5 against the King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1141639151
Simple King Gambit line?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1148507124
King Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1151064090
King's Gambit - help!!!!!!!!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1151973610
KGD/Bishops/Vienna: 6...Bxf2+!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1150437600
King's Gambit 2.Bc5: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1138227320
Spasskys Kings Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1131841601
KG & QG: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1130689762
King's Gambit Fischer Defence: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1058982490
KG - Fischer Defence, 3.Nf3, etc: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1126198486
Status of Falkbeer counter-gambit ?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1111825308
McDonald's King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1101072198
King's Gambit 2...Nc6 & 3...f5!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1045379243
King's Gambit/Modern Var: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1080450197
sources on the king bishop gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1092124676
Rosentreter Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1059304681
Kieseritzky Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1087468719



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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #18 - 10/26/08 at 13:12:37
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We all do hope that all articles from this site about KING'S GAMBIT will be included, or better said, studied during writing a book:

Here is an extensive list with themes and links:

KG convert: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1172299697
Death of King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1051657971
Question: King's Gambit - FalkbeerCounterGambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1183146590
KG (starting out by myself): http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1181744601
Bishop's Gambit idea: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1180804929
King's Gambit - Hanstein (3 Nf3 g5 4 Bc4 Bg7): http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1180629571
Starting out with the King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1172147953
King's gambit - Estrin and Glazkov book: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1175357469
King's Gambit Declined - Trouble castling!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1174873250
Help with King's Gambit - Cunningham Defense: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1177291713
Advice on King's Gambit Cunningham defense please: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1175210162
A bust to the Kings gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1173396033
KG: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1174578820
Falkbeer 3...exf4!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1171277123
King's Gambit line: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1170355343
Help! King`s gambit questions!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1169261084
A new look at the King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1133354340
Sad coverage of the King's gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1160757630
KG Wagenbach Defence 3...h5!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1152772884
The Fascinating King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1105472123/0
KGD: Schlemmer Counter Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1152957715
KG - Fischer Defence: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1144000928
King's Gambit 2...Bc5 3.Qh5!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1076620899
Hanstein Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1087669402
An early ...f5 against the King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1141639151
Simple King Gambit line?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1148507124
King Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1151064090
King's Gambit - help!!!!!!!!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1151973610
KGD/Bishops/Vienna: 6...Bxf2+!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1150437600
King's Gambit 2.Bc5: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1138227320
Spasskys Kings Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1131841601
KG & QG: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1130689762
King's Gambit Fischer Defence: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1058982490
KG - Fischer Defence, 3.Nf3, etc: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1126198486
Status of Falkbeer counter-gambit ?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1111825308
McDonald's King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1101072198
King's Gambit 2...Nc6 & 3...f5!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1045379243
King's Gambit/Modern Var: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1080450197
sources on the king bishop gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1092124676
Rosentreter Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1059304681
Kieseritzky Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1087468719

  
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #17 - 10/26/08 at 08:53:02
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This book has unfortunately been delayed a bit, as other authors have finished books that we are producing. This is the problem of multi-tasking.

John has dedicated most of 2008 to the study of the King's Gambit and I fear that he might have hit the place where he knows too much and have written too little.

I expect the book to be out in February, but this is not a promise.

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