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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #24 - 12/12/08 at 10:46:38
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I wait a whole year for this book, and only recently I sadly witnessed that the delay may be terminal. What a disaster.

Can you assure me Mr. Aagaard that this is not the case? Cry
  
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #23 - 11/11/08 at 13:04:36
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I think that a strong player could easily crack up over the task of writing a "Play the King's Gambit" repertoire book.  On the one hand, there is an enormous mass of dubious 19th-century theory, ramified and "improved" upon by hordes of latter-day adherents, much of which leads to =+.  Many of these positions are best beheld in a mirror, lest looking at them directly turn one into a raving lunatic: the Rice Gambit or the Double Muzio, for example.  On the other hand, there are several effective modern defenses, including the Modern proper and the Modern Cunningham.  

One recently popular idea that appears not to work, however, is 1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5 3.exd5 c6.  After 4.Nc3! exf4 5.Bc4! Qh4+ 6.Kf1 f3 7.d3 fxg2+ 8.Kxg2, the position favors White, I opine. E.g. 8...Bg4 9.Qd2.  (It's a transpo to a known position of the Bishop's Gambit, of course.) Another fairly recent idea, 1.e4 e5 2.f4 Qh4+ 3.g3 Qe7 4.Nc3 exf4, I suspect on account of 5.Nf3 d5 6.Kf2! a little-known move that seems to refute Black's conception.  In surprisingly many KGA positions, Kf2 is the right answer to Black's queen on e7.
  

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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #22 - 11/10/08 at 20:33:03
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Jacob Aagaard wrote on 10/26/08 at 08:53:02:
John has dedicated most of 2008 to the study of the King's Gambit and I fear that he might have hit the place where he knows too much and have written too little.


This is the truth.

King's Gambit is very hard opening to play, much harder is to write a good book about it. Everymanchess has abondoned their project "King's Gambit Uncensored" by Tait. Not enough stamina?  Undecided Undecided Undecided
  
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #21 - 11/10/08 at 17:21:29
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Yesterday I had a new look at Johansson's FKG (Bishop KG) and have indeed changed my mind. The opening is certainly playable, and much more than 2.c3 in the Sicilian, if I may say so.

Toppy, abstain.


P.S.: I was also surprised at the number of games still played in 2007-2008 in MegaBase
  

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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #20 - 10/26/08 at 19:53:38
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good thing i don't play KG.
  
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #19 - 10/26/08 at 19:17:57
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rossia wrote on 10/26/08 at 13:12:37:
We all do hope that all articles from this site about KING'S GAMBIT will be included, or better said, studied during writing a book:

Here is an extensive list with themes and links:

KG convert: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1172299697
Death of King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1051657971
Question: King's Gambit - FalkbeerCounterGambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1183146590
KG (starting out by myself): http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1181744601
Bishop's Gambit idea: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1180804929
King's Gambit - Hanstein (3 Nf3 g5 4 Bc4 Bg7): http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1180629571
Starting out with the King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1172147953
King's gambit - Estrin and Glazkov book: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1175357469
King's Gambit Declined - Trouble castling!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1174873250
Help with King's Gambit - Cunningham Defense: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1177291713
Advice on King's Gambit Cunningham defense please: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1175210162
A bust to the Kings gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1173396033
KG: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1174578820
Falkbeer 3...exf4!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1171277123
King's Gambit line: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1170355343
Help! King`s gambit questions!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1169261084
A new look at the King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1133354340
Sad coverage of the King's gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1160757630
KG Wagenbach Defence 3...h5!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1152772884
The Fascinating King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1105472123/0
KGD: Schlemmer Counter Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1152957715
KG - Fischer Defence: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1144000928
King's Gambit 2...Bc5 3.Qh5!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1076620899
Hanstein Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1087669402
An early ...f5 against the King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1141639151
Simple King Gambit line?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1148507124
King Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1151064090
King's Gambit - help!!!!!!!!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1151973610
KGD/Bishops/Vienna: 6...Bxf2+!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1150437600
King's Gambit 2.Bc5: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1138227320
Spasskys Kings Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1131841601
KG & QG: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1130689762
King's Gambit Fischer Defence: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1058982490
KG - Fischer Defence, 3.Nf3, etc: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1126198486
Status of Falkbeer counter-gambit ?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1111825308
McDonald's King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1101072198
King's Gambit 2...Nc6 & 3...f5!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1045379243
King's Gambit/Modern Var: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1080450197
sources on the king bishop gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1092124676
Rosentreter Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1059304681
Kieseritzky Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1087468719



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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #18 - 10/26/08 at 13:12:37
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We all do hope that all articles from this site about KING'S GAMBIT will be included, or better said, studied during writing a book:

Here is an extensive list with themes and links:

KG convert: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1172299697
Death of King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1051657971
Question: King's Gambit - FalkbeerCounterGambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1183146590
KG (starting out by myself): http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1181744601
Bishop's Gambit idea: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1180804929
King's Gambit - Hanstein (3 Nf3 g5 4 Bc4 Bg7): http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1180629571
Starting out with the King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1172147953
King's gambit - Estrin and Glazkov book: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1175357469
King's Gambit Declined - Trouble castling!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1174873250
Help with King's Gambit - Cunningham Defense: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1177291713
Advice on King's Gambit Cunningham defense please: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1175210162
A bust to the Kings gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1173396033
KG: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1174578820
Falkbeer 3...exf4!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1171277123
King's Gambit line: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1170355343
Help! King`s gambit questions!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1169261084
A new look at the King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1133354340
Sad coverage of the King's gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1160757630
KG Wagenbach Defence 3...h5!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1152772884
The Fascinating King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1105472123/0
KGD: Schlemmer Counter Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1152957715
KG - Fischer Defence: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1144000928
King's Gambit 2...Bc5 3.Qh5!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1076620899
Hanstein Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1087669402
An early ...f5 against the King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1141639151
Simple King Gambit line?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1148507124
King Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1151064090
King's Gambit - help!!!!!!!!: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1151973610
KGD/Bishops/Vienna: 6...Bxf2+!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1150437600
King's Gambit 2.Bc5: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1138227320
Spasskys Kings Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1131841601
KG & QG: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1130689762
King's Gambit Fischer Defence: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1058982490
KG - Fischer Defence, 3.Nf3, etc: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1126198486
Status of Falkbeer counter-gambit ?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1111825308
McDonald's King's Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1101072198
King's Gambit 2...Nc6 & 3...f5!?: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1045379243
King's Gambit/Modern Var: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1080450197
sources on the king bishop gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1092124676
Rosentreter Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1059304681
Kieseritzky Gambit: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1087468719

  
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #17 - 10/26/08 at 08:53:02
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This book has unfortunately been delayed a bit, as other authors have finished books that we are producing. This is the problem of multi-tasking.

John has dedicated most of 2008 to the study of the King's Gambit and I fear that he might have hit the place where he knows too much and have written too little.

I expect the book to be out in February, but this is not a promise.

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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #16 - 10/25/08 at 14:01:43
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I just looked at all the John Shaw King's Gambit games on the Opening master 5,000,000 game database. They were all played between 1992 and 1995. He did not score well. However I did not like some of the lines that he played. Furthermore he is a much stronger player now then he was in 1995.

  

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Reply #15 - 10/25/08 at 13:53:42
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TopNotch wrote on 10/24/08 at 02:15:59:
Personally I'm hoping the King's Gambit becomes a popular guest in current OTB play, particularly among the higher rated set, as this would make my task of playing for a win with either color less of a headache. Wink

Like so many sharp gambits, I think the King's Gambit could work best if used judiciously and in moderation.

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You might score more wins with either color but you would have to play really good chess. But isn't that the idea.




  

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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #14 - 10/24/08 at 02:15:59
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I guess the best thing to do now is simply wait for the book to come out, or for those who can't wait could leave a message for John Shaw inquiring as to the format.

Personally I'm hoping the King's Gambit becomes a popular guest in current OTB play, particularly among the higher rated set, as this would make my task of playing for a win with either color less of a headache. Wink

Like so many sharp gambits, I think the King's Gambit could work best if used judiciously and in moderation.

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Reply #13 - 10/24/08 at 00:41:28
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TopNotch wrote on 10/23/08 at 02:00:51:
I maintain my view that the days of a repertoire book for White with the King's Gambit as the center piece are long gone.

Maybe Quality Chess may prove me wrong, but I seriously doubt it.


I believe that you would require too much knowledge to include a chapter in a repertoire book. You would need a specialist book. For example you would need 20-30 pages to deal with the Falkbeer Counter gambit adequately alone.

TopNotch wrote on 10/23/08 at 02:00:51:
What I expect is an up to date reference book examining the state of current theory without a bias for either side. That said I still expect Black to come out way ahead.



That would be exellent. I do not think that black would come out way ahead. There are a few lines where things look quite unclear to me especially in the Kieseritzy Gambit if white knows what he is doing. However  white looks OK in most other lines of the Knights Gambit. In the bishops Gambit black can hold the position but I do not think that white is in danger of losing.

Nevertheless the King's Gambit is harder to play well that other 1.e4 e5 openings. The resulting middle game positions are often even but very unbalanced.   
  

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Reply #12 - 10/23/08 at 20:44:25
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Well, as I say, there are two repertoire books out there with early d4-gambits in the Italian Game, and 4.d4 against the Two Knights, as their centrepiece (A Startling Chess Repertoire, Chris Baker, and The Italian Gambit System, Acers & Laven).  Objectively those openings are considered easier to equalise against than the KG.  Yet they sold well.
  
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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
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flaviddude wrote on 10/22/08 at 02:30:45:
The Kings' Gambit is a very complex opening. The repertoire books are good and white needs to know how to answer their recommendations.

The positions that arise are quite different to other openings and difficult to play for both players. Furthermore the opening is still developing. Look at the articles by Stefan Bucker at Chess Cafe or the article in the latest Kaissiber.

I am getting on in years and my over the board ability is falling. Nevertheless I use the King's Gambit in correspondence.  Over the board I would not hesitate to use the King's Gambit against significantly higher rated steady positional players who would expect to beat me. The fact that I know a good deal about the opening has a deterrant effect on my opponents. An Australian called Trevor hay wrote a book on the King's Gambit. For years after wards almost no-one played 1.e5 after his 1.e4. The same thing is happening to me.  

  A    further point is that you need good endgame technique to play the Kings Gambit as white.  


The flip side of this argument is that when facing weaker opposition you expect to beat, then this Opening maybe less than desirable.

I maintain my view that the days of a repertoire book for White with the King's Gambit as the center piece are long gone.

Maybe Quality Chess may prove me wrong, but I seriously doubt it.

What I expect is an up to date reference book examining the state of current theory without a bias for either side. That said I still expect Black to come out way ahead.

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Re: John Shaw: The King's Gambit
Reply #10 - 10/22/08 at 02:30:45
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The Kings' Gambit is a very complex opening. The repertoire books are good and white needs to know how to answer their recommendations.

The positions that arise are quite different to other openings and difficult to play for both players. Furthermore the opening is still developing. Look at the articles by Stefan Bucker at Chess Cafe or the article in the latest Kaissiber.

I am getting on in years and my over the board ability is falling. Nevertheless I use the King's Gambit in correspondence.  Over the board I would not hesitate to use the King's Gambit against significantly higher rated steady positional players who would expect to beat me. The fact that I know a good deal about the opening has a deterrant effect on my opponents. An Australian called Trevor hay wrote a book on the King's Gambit. For years after wards almost no-one played 1.e5 after his 1.e4. The same thing is happening to me.   

   A    further point is that you need good endgame technique to play the Kings Gambit as white.
  

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