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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #57 - 11/13/16 at 01:03:24
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MNb wrote on 11/10/16 at 09:25:35:
Arnaudov wrote on 11/09/16 at 19:09:46:
1 e4 c5 2 Nc3 e6 3 Nf3
3...a6 4 d4 cxd4 5 Nxd4 p. 175

What's the remedy against 5...b5 ? It scores very well.


De la Villa gives 6 Bd3 on page 176. I did ok with it.  Smiley
  
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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #56 - 11/13/16 at 00:58:26
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gramsci wrote on 11/09/16 at 21:26:59:
Arnaudov wrote on 11/09/16 at 19:09:46:
To be honest I used to play 2 Nc3 and then switch vs. 2 e6

What did you play vs. 2...d6 & 2...Nc6 then?


I would play 3 f4 and the GPA vs. 2...d6; and used to play 3 Bb5 vs. 2...Nc6 (someone here at ChessPub called this the
"Backdoor Rossolimo"  Grin and I fared pretty well with it.

I still feel more comfortable playing that way, but as my play has improved, so has that of my opponents and I gradually weaned myself to the Open Sicilian... most of the time.  Wink
  
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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #55 - 11/10/16 at 09:25:35
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Arnaudov wrote on 11/09/16 at 19:09:46:
1 e4 c5 2 Nc3 e6 3 Nf3
3...a6 4 d4 cxd4 5 Nxd4 p. 175

What's the remedy against 5...b5 ? It scores very well.
  

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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #54 - 11/09/16 at 21:26:59
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Arnaudov wrote on 11/09/16 at 19:09:46:
To be honest I used to play 2 Nc3 and then switch vs. 2 e6

What did you play vs. 2...d6 & 2...Nc6 then?
  
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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #53 - 11/09/16 at 19:09:46
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chk wrote on 11/09/16 at 09:47:14:
My version of the book has a detailed table of contents (showing the moves of the variations) + index in the end with a variations tree, plus diagrams of key positions.

Yes, mine has that also. If that works well for you, that's great.  Grin But I am so much more accustomed to the "tree" style that I decided to create this one.  Roll Eyes

To be honest I used to play 2 Nc3 and then switch vs. 2 e6, so I created an index to the book just for that:

1 e4 c5 2 Nc3 e6 3 Nf3
3...a6 4 d4 cxd4 5 Nxd4 p. 175
3...Nc6  4 d4 cxd4 5 Nxd4 p. 146
3...d6  4 d4 cxd4 5 Nxd4
    5...Nf6 p. 270
    5...a6 p. 274
    5...Nc6 p. x?
3...Nf6  4 d4 cxd4 5 Nxd4
   5...Qb6 p. 125
   5...Bb4 p. 128
   5...Nc6 p. 136
   5...d6   p. 270
   5...Bc5 p. 124
  
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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #52 - 11/09/16 at 13:12:00
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Thanks. I like this book and also find navigation of it difficult  Cool
  

Those who want to go by my perverse footsteps play such pawn structure with fuzzy atypical still strategic orientations

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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
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My version of the book has a detailed table of contents (showing the moves of the variations) + index in the end with a variations tree, plus diagrams of key positions.
  

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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #50 - 11/08/16 at 19:02:41
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I like the Dismantling repertoire, but it is sometimes difficult to navigate so I made an index for the book.

1 e4 c5 2 Nf3
2...Nc6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4
     4...Nxd4 p. 36
     4...Qb6  p. 36
     4...g6   p. 60 Accelerated Dragon
     4...e5 5 Nb5
           5...a6  p. 68 Lowenthal
           5...d6  p. 81 Kalashnikov
     4...Nf6 5 Nc3
           5...Qb6 p. 31
           5...e5  p. 119 Pelikan
           5...d6  p. 238 Classical
2...e6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4
     4...Bc5 p. 127
     4...Qb6 p. 127
     4...Nf6 5 Nc3
           5...Qb6 p. 127
           5...Bb4 p. 135 Pin
           5...Nc6 p. 144
     4...Nc6 p. 173 Taimanov
     4...a6  p. 192 Kan (aka Paulsen)
2...d6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4
     4...e5  p. 199
     4...Nf6 5 Nc3
           5...b5  p. 192
           5...Qc7 p. 192
           5...e5  p. 199
           5...Bd7 p. 204 Kupreichik
           5...g6  p. 236 Dragon
           5...Nc6 p. 269 Classical
           5...e6  p. 298 Scheveningen
           5...a6  p. 330 Najdorf
2...a6  p. 28
2...b6  p. 20
2...Nf6 p. 16 Nimzowitsch
2...others p. 16
  
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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #49 - 09/08/10 at 15:19:10
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Recently I took a deeper look at this book. I was interested in chapter 17 - namely Richter-Rauzer. I was quite disappointed to find out that the book is poorly edited and still contains some old stuff. On page 260 while the author comments the move 10...h6 he says:
"10...h6 would normally be a transposition to the lines studied in the previous game..."
But the previous game in the book has nothing in common with this variation  Angry. Seems this paragraph stays from the Spanish edition of the book which contains one more game, but again it was not a good example. Also it should be noted that the author does not consider 10...h6 as the main move in that position despite the fact that this is considered the most modern treatment of the variation for Black and the book has been published in late 2009 when this was already proved to be the main line. Instead he uses his own game played long ago in 1996 which shows how Black should not play this line.
  
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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #48 - 10/27/09 at 20:18:38
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I looked at the Scheveningen chapter today. After 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 exd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.Be3 Nc6 De la Villa, aiming for an English Attack, recommends 7.Qd2 and comments:

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The most precise order. 7.f3 may lead to the same positions, but we must take into account two disturbing moves: 7...d5 and 7...Qb6.

Does anyone have experience with either of these 7th moves? How "disturbing" are they really? I ask because if White tries to reach a straight English Attack against the Classical Sicilian he can't avoid them so easily (i.e. 6.f3 e6 7.Be3 d5!? / Qb6!? or 6.Be3 Ng4!?).
  

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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #47 - 10/26/09 at 18:13:08
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Another glowing review, by Arne Moll (a Dutch player who is around 2200) at Chessvibes.
  
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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #46 - 10/22/09 at 10:48:19
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rossia wrote on 10/21/09 at 16:20:48:
Thanks guys for information.

Currently I'm working with EXPERTS vs SICILIAN 2nd ed. and I'm wondering how De la Villa's book compares with Quality Chess book regarding:

a) smoothness of proposed repertoire
b) bullet-proofness to fashion
c) overall grade

Thanks  Cheesy


Compared to Experts I like De La Villa's book much better. I find it very clearly structured, somehow it is really a pleasure to read the book (might also be becuase of the good production)! The repertoire fits well together, of course the bullet-proofness can only be seen in the future!

But of course this is a subjective assessment, the repertoire simply fits me better than that of Experts.
I also try to play the English attack whenever possible because I think it is the most practicable and dangerous way against the Sicilian.
Of the Experts repertoire I didn't like Bg5 against the Najdorf (great variation, but too difficult to maintain, the Maroczy against Accelerated Dragon and the Sveshnikov recommendation was also not my cup of tea.

Perhaps we could make this thread as something of an addition or discussion about variations of the book (as some of the posters already did). I noticed two holes:

In the Scheveningen/Najdorf after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cd4: 4.Nd4: Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.Be3 a6 7.f3 b5 8.Qd2 Nbd7 9.g4 Nb6 10.0-0-0 Bb7 11.g5 Nfd7 12.Bd3 Rc8 13.Kb1 Ne5 14.Qe1 he doesn't consider 14. ... Nbc4 which strikes me as a more logical move than 14. ... Nec4, as it makes room for the queen. Now 15.Bc1 seems logical, but perhaps is not best in this position after 15. ... Qb6 or 15. ... Qa5.
More to the point could be 15.f4, but also here the position is far from clear in my opinion:

[Event "Palau ITA open"]
[Site ""]
[Date "2009.??.??"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Korneev, Oleg"]
[Black "Grandelius, Nils"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2587"]
[BlackElo "2491"]
[NIC "SI 19.16.10"]
[ECO "B90"]
[PlyCount "106"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. f3 b5 8. Qd2 Nbd7
9. O-O-O Bb7 10. g4 Nb6 11. Bd3 Rc8 12. g5 Nfd7 13. Kb1 Ne5 14. Qe1 Nbc4 15. f4 b4
16. Na4 Nxd3 17. cxd3 Qa5 18. Bc1 Na3  19. bxa3 Qxa4 20. Qxb4 Qxb4  21. axb4 d5 22.
a3 dxe4 23. Rhe1 exd3 24. f5 Be7 25. fxe6 O-O 26. Rxd3 Rcd8 27. Rde3 Rxd4 28. exf7  
Rxf7 29. Rxe7 Rxe7 30. Rxe7 Bc6 31. Kb2 Rd7 32. Re6 Bb5 33. a4 Kf7 34. Rb6 Bf1 35.
h4 Re7 36. b5 axb5 37. a5 Re6 38. Rb7  Kg6 39. Bd2 Re2 40. Kc1 Re4 41. Bc3 Kh5 42.
Rxg7 Kxh4 43. Bf6 Kg4 44. Rxh7 Kf5 45. a6 Ra4 46. a7 b4 47. Bd4 Bd3 48. Re7 b3 49.
Re5  Kf4 50. Re8 Be4 51. g6 Bxg6 52. a8Q Bxe8 53. Be5  Kf5 1-0

[Event "Dubai"]
[Site ""]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Mamedov, Roufat"]
[Black "Odeev, Khandzhar (Handjar)"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2313"]
[BlackElo "2471"]
[NIC "SI 19.16.7"]
[ECO "B90"]
[PlyCount "86"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. f3 b5 8. Qd2 Bb7
9. g4 Nfd7 10. O-O-O Nb6 11. Bd3 N8d7 12. g5 Rc8 13. Kb1 Ne5 14. f4 Nbc4 15. Qe1
Nxd3 16. cxd3 Nxe3 17. Qxe3 Qb6 18. f5 Be7 19. h4 e5 20. Nc2 Bd8 21. f6 gxf6 22.
gxf6 Qxe3 23. Nxe3 Bxf6 24. Ncd5 Bd8 25. b4 Bc6 26. Rdf1 Bd7 27. Rhg1 h6 28. h5 Be6
29. Nf5 Bxf5 30. Rxf5 Bg5 31. Kb2 Rc6 32. a4 bxa4 33. Ra1 Rg8 34. Rf2 a3  35. Kxa3
Bd8 36. Rf3 Rg2 37. Kb3 Rh2 38. Rg3 Rxh5 39. b5 axb5 40. Ra7 Bg5 41. Ra8  Kd7 42.
Ra7  Ke8 43. Ra8  Kd7 1/2-1/2

The Mamedov game seemed better for white, but korneev's game was very wild!  Smiley


The other variation in the Najdorf has always brought my problems with white: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cd4: 4.Nd4: Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Be3 e5 7.Nb3 Be6 8.f3 Be7 9.Qd2 0-0 10.0-0-0 a5!? and now de la Villa offers 11.Bb5. what do you think of this move?
11. ... Na6 12.Qe2 he now doesn't consider 12. ... a4!? as played by some strong players (including Bu Xiangxi). What would you suggest for white?
  
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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #45 - 10/21/09 at 16:21:20
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Some sources have thought that Scheveningen line to be += (e.g. Anish Giri in the last Yearbook after 11...Qxd5:  "White has many moves, and he is slightly better I think"), and some have thought it to be equal (the same can be said of various lines in the Keres).  It would seem unsurprising for de la Villa to skew to the White-favoring side in such cases.
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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #44 - 10/21/09 at 16:20:48
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Thanks guys for information.

Currently I'm working with EXPERTS vs SICILIAN 2nd ed. and I'm wondering how De la Villa's book compares with Quality Chess book regarding:

a) smoothness of proposed repertoire
b) bullet-proofness to fashion
c) overall grade

Thanks  Cheesy
  
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Re: Dismantling the Sicilian
Reply #43 - 10/21/09 at 16:07:18
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Stigma wrote on 10/21/09 at 01:35:05:
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I found a curious hole in that Kan chapter btw: In the recently popular line 5.Nc3 b5 6.Bd3 Bb7 7.0-0 Nc6 8.Nxc6 Bxc6 9.Re1 he gives 9...Qb8, 9...Qc7, 9...Be7 and 9...Nf6 claiming a clear advantage against all of them. But he doesn't mention 9...Bc5 which is overwhelmingly the most popular choice in recent games!


Thanks for instructive post Stigma!

Not 100 per cent relevant I know, but I cannot resist highlighting this inspiring recent game by Josh Friedel against the above line, but with 9 Qe2.

[Event "Unive Open"]
[Site "Hoogeveen NED"]
[Date "2009.10.19"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Friedel, Joshua E"]
[Black "De Jong, Migchiel"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B43"]
[WhiteElo "2555"]
[BlackElo "2373"]
[PlyCount "45"]
[EventDate "9.10.16"]
[EventRounds "9"]
[EventCountry "NED"]
[SourceDate "2009.10.20"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 a6 5. Nc3 b5 6. Bd3 Bb7 7. O-O Nc6 8. Nxc6 Bxc6 9. Qe2 Bc5 10. Be3 d6 11. a4 Bxe3 12. axb5 axb5 13. Bxb5 Bxb5 14. Qxb5+ Kf8 15. fxe3 Rb8 16. Ra7 Nf6 17. Rxf6 gxf6 18. Qh5 Qe8 19. e5 h6 20. exf6 Rh7 21. Ne4 Qd8 22. Ng5 hxg5 23. Rxf7+ 1-0

Great stuff.
  
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