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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #17 - 02/05/17 at 13:42:56
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MNb wrote on 10/17/11 at 11:02:11:
A London System player should play the Paris Defence. We only have to figure out yet how that goes.

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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #16 - 01/05/17 at 20:03:39
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As nowadays everybody seems to play 1.e4 e5 and i myself got tired playing 1.e4 e5 I am faced with the same question...
After a relatively intense time of research I came to the conclusion that playing the Scandinavian with 3...Qd8 in a modern way as Nikola Djukic does and the QGA with 4...Bg4 are a perfect mostly theory avoiding match !  Wink
  
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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #15 - 04/12/13 at 03:37:41
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Not worth moving. Unless anyone objects, I will lock this later today.
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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #14 - 04/11/13 at 21:31:24
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I don't understand why this topic has been allowed to stand here.  It belongs in "General Chess," doesn't it?

My personal solution is that a "London player" should play 1...b6, which is about as much worse than 1...e5, 1...e6 or 1...c5 as 2.Bf4 is than 2.c4.
  

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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #13 - 03/22/13 at 11:52:26
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Maybe a better poll could be what to play with white instead  Wink. Back to the topic, the  C-K and slav duo fits well with London "mentality".
  
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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #12 - 03/22/13 at 11:12:15
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Perhaps 1...c6 against almost everything ! I guess it may through White players of the Trompowsky. I can't really think of any drawbacks.
  
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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #11 - 03/15/13 at 03:29:59
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A London player should play against :

1.e4  The caro-kann or the center counter because they are also to some extent practical defenses to 1.e4.

1.d4 The Slav. The London is like a slav reversed.

Against 1.c4 it is  not so clear what a London player should play. If he plays the Caro and the slav then of course  he plays 1.c4. Not fearing 1.c4 c6 2. e4 when black just plays 2..d5 and gets a panov or "panovs little brother" (Houskas label) variaton.

Against 1.Nf3  black should respond with 1...d5 trying to reach a slav or if white goes in for the Reti black plays the New York system which is actually a London reversed.
  

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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #10 - 10/18/11 at 19:37:04
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Clearly the Caro-Kann. Cheesy
Positional, with a similar pawn-formation and piece-placement.
  

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*W 1d4) Torre/Barry/Pirc/Philidor/ early _d5:early c4(QGD/Slav/QGD/etc)
*B) 1e4:e6 [+1_c5 2Nf3 a6]| 1d4:e6 2c4 Bb4+ BID/pseudoNID [+1_Nf6 NID]| 1c4:c5,_Nc6,_e5,_g6| 1Nf3:c5
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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #9 - 10/18/11 at 10:16:42
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A London player should play the Russian Defence. It is just as boring, only more theoretical.  Grin
  

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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #8 - 10/18/11 at 08:27:41
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I did say queen bishop, right? Bc1 to f4 often retreats to h2 in the London.

Besides, I never said he played it very well... Grin
  
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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #7 - 10/18/11 at 06:11:01
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mangler wrote on 10/17/11 at 13:45:52:
I agree with that. I have a friend who often plays the London, and has always played the French.

It is funny. With black your queen bishop is buried on c8, with white it is often buried on h2.


It doesn't seem too healthy to have a black queen buried on your h2 square.  I would guess the King is the one that's really buried in that case. Lips Sealed
  
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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #6 - 10/18/11 at 02:58:58
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 10/17/11 at 23:30:28:
What Tartakower called "Paris Defence" is now Neo-Arkhangelsk.

Good old Tartakower. The old cultural centre Paris as an offshoot of half-barbaric Archangelsk, that's a nice insult.
This is my recommendation for the London player.
  

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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #5 - 10/18/11 at 00:48:34
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I don't know, but against 1.d4 a London player should play the English Defence.
  

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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #4 - 10/17/11 at 23:30:28
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MNb wrote on 10/17/11 at 11:02:11:
A London System player should play the Paris Defence. We only have to figure out yet how that goes.


What Tartakower called "Paris Defence" is now Neo-Arkhangelsk.
  
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Re: What should a London player play against 1.e4?
Reply #3 - 10/17/11 at 13:45:52
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I agree with that. I have a friend who often plays the London, and has always played the French.

It is funny. With black your queen bishop is buried on c8, with white it is often buried on h2.
  
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