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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #140 - 05/12/15 at 19:42:58
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Thank you, I will look for them.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #139 - 05/11/15 at 20:23:26
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Shamash wrote on 05/11/15 at 02:47:30:
Now that it is a year later, wondering what is the verdict on GM Delchev's 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 3.b4 line? 

And has Reinhold Thiele's "refutation" been refuted? 

Thiele's line is still good, so Delchev's 6 Bb5+ is probably dubious and at the moment White prefers 6 Qa4+. I've covered this line a couple of times recently, see the updates.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #138 - 05/11/15 at 02:47:30
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Now that it is a year later, wondering what is the verdict on GM Delchev's 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 3.b4 line? 

And has Reinhold Thiele's "refutation" been refuted? 
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #137 - 03/08/14 at 09:02:24
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And the line is back in business, yes, sir, and better than ever indeed !!   

While it is better, ...Bd7 in also better than the move chosen in the game.

Still, lots to explore.

That was a monster novelty, for an OTB game.

The update also mentions the other option  ...Bd7, so I am very happy.

Subscribe and see !!
  

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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #136 - 01/31/14 at 15:05:55
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Alias wrote on 01/30/14 at 09:16:51:
A cool game in the 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 3. b4 f6 4. e3 e5 5. c5 a5 line:


I see Alex Fier has analysed this for ChessPublishing this month: http://www.chesspublishing.com/content/12/index.htm#ret
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #135 - 01/31/14 at 11:58:07
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6.Qa4+ eh, must have a look at that, White was not doing too well with the alternatives iirc
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #134 - 01/31/14 at 09:16:46
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Of course that is a very valid explanation. I find it nice of you to share lots of ideas anyway, like in the Alekhine thread.

Anyhow, it is interesting how much scope there is in these lines and I would guess that they are good for cc games, because the engines must have problem evaluating the compensation for White.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #133 - 01/31/14 at 08:08:44
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I am a little uncomfortable discussing this line here since I'm currently involved in a cc game rather early in this very variation. I'll be happy to share my views once it is finished or has reached a later stage. I can say, however, that Bd7 would be my choice as black.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #132 - 01/31/14 at 06:39:46
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That's why I posted the last question, but wasn't sure it was known here who is behind the nickname Ludde.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #131 - 01/31/14 at 06:07:02
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Aha. Our Ludde was behind this.
  

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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #130 - 01/30/14 at 17:55:09
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Thanks for pointing that out! It is always nice to read a strong player's comments to his own games. I wonder what more developments we'll see in this line.

What about Black's alternative 6 ...Bd7 after 6. Qa4+? And also, did anyone look more carefully at 9 ...Qg4 in the game Mannermaa-Voll?
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #129 - 01/30/14 at 17:28:22
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If you are interested in this game then you should look for Tiger´s blog where he has commented the game himself.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #128 - 01/30/14 at 09:23:21
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Errr, wow Smiley A bit mind expanding that.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #127 - 01/30/14 at 09:16:51
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A cool game in the 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 3. b4 f6 4. e3 e5 5. c5 a5 line:
http://www.skak.dk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=429%3Abronshoj-f...
  

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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #126 - 09/01/12 at 09:39:28
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Vass wrote on 08/30/12 at 08:36:03:
Ludde wrote on 08/29/12 at 21:11:35:
tony37 wrote on 08/29/12 at 20:05:41:
I may be missing something, but why not 9...Qg4 ?

No doubt this was analysed by both parties involved, but without spending too much time on serious thought it seems that white get some kind of lead in development after 10.d3 Qxg2 11.Rf1 (engines top choice btw). If it is really good is a different question.

9...Qg4 10.b5!? e4 11.bxc6 bxc6 12.Nd4 Qxg2 13.Rf1 Bxc5 and now 14.Ba3 or 14.Nxc6 is possible, too.. Maybe good for playing OTB, but not too good for the CC.  Roll Eyes

You seem to be right on this, but then 6.Qa4+ Bd7 might be a better choice for black
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #125 - 08/30/12 at 08:36:03
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Ludde wrote on 08/29/12 at 21:11:35:
tony37 wrote on 08/29/12 at 20:05:41:
I may be missing something, but why not 9...Qg4 ?

No doubt this was analysed by both parties involved, but without spending too much time on serious thought it seems that white get some kind of lead in development after 10.d3 Qxg2 11.Rf1 (engines top choice btw). If it is really good is a different question.

9...Qg4 10.b5!? e4 11.bxc6 bxc6 12.Nd4 Qxg2 13.Rf1 Bxc5 and now 14.Ba3 or 14.Nxc6 is possible, too.. Maybe good for playing OTB, but not too good for the CC.  Roll Eyes
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #124 - 08/29/12 at 21:11:35
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tony37 wrote on 08/29/12 at 20:05:41:
I may be missing something, but why not 9...Qg4 ?

No doubt this was analysed by both parties involved, but without spending too much time on serious thought it seems that white get some kind of lead in development after 10.d3 Qxg2 11.Rf1 (engines top choice btw). If it is really good is a different question.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #123 - 08/29/12 at 20:05:41
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I may be missing something, but why not 9...Qg4 ?
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #122 - 08/29/12 at 08:08:59
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Ludde wrote on 08/29/12 at 07:19:09:
Maybe this alternative way of playing it, as chosen by a strong CC GM, is an option. The inclusion of Qa4+ at least postpones axb4.
http://www.iccf-webchess.com/MakeAMove.aspx?id=293355

It seems like a real medicine for this variation.  Smiley
  
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Reply #121 - 08/29/12 at 07:19:09
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Maybe this alternative way of playing it, as chosen by a strong CC GM, is an option. The inclusion of Qa4+ at least postpones axb4.
http://www.iccf-webchess.com/MakeAMove.aspx?id=293355
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #120 - 06/18/12 at 04:58:58
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It all looks very convincing. I have tried to find anything for White, but it seems his best bet is to play for a draw with two rooks and a couple of pawns versus queen and a piece. Not exactly what I would want as White!

I find it strange if Delchev does not even mention 9...g6. If Black is simply winning, or at least clearly better, after 11...Nf6, it means the whole 6.Bb5+ line is busted. And it should not be that hard to see that 9...g6 is at least a critical try (and not just a rook blunder). Makes me suspicious about the whole book.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #119 - 06/17/12 at 03:26:37
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In Thiele's analysis, 7...axb4 8.Nxe5 fxe5 9.Qh5+ g6 10.Qxe5+ Qe7 11.Qxh8 Nf6, White has the interesting idea 12.Kd1, to try to exploit the e-file. It gets quite unclear, at least to me, after 12...Be6 13.Bxe6 Qxe6 14.exd4 Qg4+ 15.Kc2.

No, that fails because of 14...Kf7.
  

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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #118 - 06/11/12 at 19:07:39
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Keano wrote on 06/11/12 at 13:59:20:
But after 8...dxe3 White could just play 9.fxe3 and probably Black has to revert to a ...Nh6 defence because taking on e5 will never work now with the long diagonal open. I like 8...fxe5 much more - the idea of trapping the Queen in the corner is quite appealing to us all isn't it?  Be interesting to see if the guy gets a reply to that letter.

Absolutely true, even though it seems rather unattractive for white to play with the N on d3 after fxe3. All of it is rather unimportant since in this line white at least has a draw, but in the line advocated by Thiele black seems to be winning, or close to it. The reason I brought it up was that to me it indicates that Delchev didn't put too much effort in his analysis of these lines. In the Anti-slav stuff on the other hand I'm quite impressed by some of his analysis.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #117 - 06/11/12 at 13:59:20
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But after 8...dxe3 White could just play 9.fxe3 and probably Black has to revert to a ...Nh6 defence because taking on e5 will never work now with the long diagonal open. I like 8...fxe5 much more - the idea of trapping the Queen in the corner is quite appealing to us all isn't it?  Be interesting to see if the guy gets a reply to that letter.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #116 - 06/11/12 at 13:41:01
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Kazzy wrote on 06/10/12 at 19:55:26:
It seems like there's some trouble in the following line:
1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 3. b4 f6 4. e3 e5 5. c5 a5 6. Bb5+ c6 7. Bc4

Check out Reinhard Thieles letter on the chess-stars homepage:

http://chess-stars.com/Reti_letter.html

This might be a refutation of the whole line.


Aside from this (which might be an unimportant observation given the result of the analysis by Thiele) black can also play 8..dxe3 when 9.Qh5+ g6 10.Nxg6 hxg6 11.Qxg6+ Kd7 looks like a forced draw. This is one of the first lines the engine produces so it is not really a "find", but rather puts the question to how Delchev checked his analysis. It seems that the parts of the book dealing with the anti-slav (especially the g4-lines) are much more carefully analysed than the rest.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #115 - 06/11/12 at 08:26:20
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That does look very convincing doesn't it? Very good find if it holds up.
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #114 - 06/10/12 at 19:55:26
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It seems like there's some trouble in the following line:
1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 3. b4 f6 4. e3 e5 5. c5 a5 6. Bb5+ c6 7. Bc4

Check out Reinhard Thieles letter on the chess-stars homepage:

http://chess-stars.com/Reti_letter.html

This might be a refutation of the whole line.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #113 - 05/30/12 at 09:20:57
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Girkassa wrote on 05/29/12 at 21:16:02:
Looks like a weakness in my old analysis is finally pointed out!

Quite a lot of people seem to play the same way, but I don't like having the black queen on the same file as the white rook, and I also prefer having the white knight on d2 rather than a3 - especially if the knight has to go to c2 afterwards. Delchev gets round this in his book by playing Rc1, c5 and then presumably putting the knight on c4.
There is no point buying the book for this line, though, as he barely covers 8...d4.
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #112 - 05/29/12 at 21:16:02
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Looks like a weakness in my old analysis is finally pointed out! I simply missed that White could ignore the threat to his d3-pawn, and for the same reason, I always thought that 17.f4 Bf5 would be troublesome for White's knight.

I have had three rather comfortable wins and one GM draw (a rather lucky one, but I was fine from the opening) in this line, so I haven't put this line very high on my priority list. Now I will have to take a closer look again, as 17./18.f4 looks quite strong. Maybe you just made me buy your book and/or subscribe to the Flank openings section, Tony.  Smiley
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #111 - 05/29/12 at 19:58:51
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Girkassa wrote on 05/29/12 at 17:18:34:
Hmm... looks like I'm lacking the best sources on this line as I don't have Dangerous weapons and I'm not a subscriber to Flank openings  Undecided (please forgive me, Tony!).

No, never!

Girkassa wrote on 05/28/12 at 21:22:29:
after 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 e6 3.g3 Nf6 4.Bg2 Be7 5.0-0 0-0 6.b3 c5 7.Bb2 Nc6 8.e3 d4 9.exd4 cxd4 10.Re1 Ne8. I see that he recommends 11.Ne5 Nxe5 12.Rxe5 f6 13.Re1 e5 14.Ba3, but this has always occurred to me as completely harmless for Black. After 14...Nc7 15.Bxe7 Qxe7 16.d3 Rb8 17.Nd2 Bf5, it seems to me that Black has an easy game.

Really? Two questions: 1) Why can't White play 17 f4 ? 2) Why can't White play 18 f4, as 18...Bxd3 19 Nf3 looks good?
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #110 - 05/29/12 at 17:18:34
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Thanks CaptainCarrot! Looks like I won't find an answer to that in Delchev, as I think ...Bxa3 only helps White.

Hmm... looks like I'm lacking the best sources on this line as I don't have Dangerous weapons and I'm not a subscriber to Flank openings  Undecided (please forgive me, Tony!).
  
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Reply #109 - 05/29/12 at 10:40:47
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Girkassa:
Delchev doesn't mention 14...Nc7, but rather 13...Nc7!? - although in the example he gives, black ends up playing ...Bxa3
  
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Reply #108 - 05/29/12 at 07:04:11
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Ametanoitos wrote on 05/28/12 at 23:15:19:
I'll look at it and respond to you tomorrow as i am also interested in this line for Black. By the way, have you checked the recommendations in the Dangerous Weapons book against your system? Have you found an antidote to those lines GM Kosten provided for White?


You'll want to check out Kosten's latest Flank Openings update where he analyzes Kosten-Townsend which has improvements for both sides.
  
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Reply #107 - 05/28/12 at 23:15:19
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I'll look at it and respond to you tomorrow as i am also interested in this line for Black. By the way, have you checked the recommendations in the Dangerous Weapons book against your system? Have you found an antidote to those lines GM Kosten provided for White?
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #106 - 05/28/12 at 21:22:29
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I am curious about this book, especially the lines after 2...d4, so maybe I will buy it. However, I am wondering what Delchev says about my usual approach against the Reti: the reversed Benoni arising after 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 e6 3.g3 Nf6 4.Bg2 Be7 5.0-0 0-0 6.b3 c5 7.Bb2 Nc6 8.e3 d4 9.exd4 cxd4 10.Re1 Ne8. I see that he recommends 11.Ne5 Nxe5 12.Rxe5 f6 13.Re1 e5 14.Ba3, but this has always occurred to me as completely harmless for Black. After 14...Nc7 15.Bxe7 Qxe7 16.d3 Rb8 17.Nd2 Bf5, it seems to me that Black has an easy game.

Does someone want to reveal whether Delchev has anything convincing for White here? (A simple "yes" is useful information for me!) And does he mention 14...Nc7 at all? 14...Bxa3 is more usual, according to my database, but the knight doesn't look that unhappy on a3 in this Benoni-like position.
  
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Reply #105 - 05/13/12 at 20:42:49
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Keano wrote on 05/13/12 at 14:12:02:
I found it a bit too skimpy to part with my money.

Yes, he has concentrated on some moves and completely ignored others. To save on space I suppose, although it looks a bit funny when he mentions a less-played move and not the mainline!
  
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Reply #104 - 05/13/12 at 14:12:02
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Almost bought this in the bookshop the other day, was intending to but in the end flicking through it I found it a bit too skimpy to part with my money.
  
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Reply #103 - 05/11/12 at 10:13:14
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I decided to buy the book while I was over in the UK playing in the 4NCL, and got my first chance to play one of his recommendations immediately after - I will cover this in the next Flank update, but to cut a long story short: I wasn't too impressed!
I haven't really done more than flick through a few chapters so far, but did notice that he covers the Gurevich anti-Slav quite deeply, although he manages to avoid duplicating the material I covered in the DW - Flank book by playing 8 Rg1 and g4 or 8 Be2 mostly without g4.
Curiously, the Bibliography doesn't mention this DW book, or ChessPublishing.com ... but does mention the ChessPublishing.com Forum! Wink
  
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Reply #102 - 05/05/12 at 20:42:33
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Very usable for club player chess sure.

My slight reservation comes from the way that the basis of the approach is trying to use move order ideas/tricks to pose problems whilst dodging deep theory.

Very sensible at a higher level but at the sort of club level where neither player is carrying much theory anyway? More straightforward main lines might make more sense.

Especially as you do get a lot of move order issues to work through.
  
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Reply #101 - 05/05/12 at 15:36:42
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Not only GMs are capable of memorising lines. I had to memorise 25+ move lines when I used to play the Poisoned Pawn against the 6. Bg5 Najdorf when I was around 2150-2250. Delchev's book is good for me although I am not a GM.
  

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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #100 - 05/05/12 at 15:33:46
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OK, here is my question, I just read the review on ChessCafe which has this excerpt:

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In the Foreword the author, Bulgarian grandmaster Delchev, describes his efforts assisting former Women's World Champion Antoaneta Stefanova in preparing for a couple of tournaments. First they went with a repertoire that required sharp play and plenty of memorized lines. Unfortunately, this approach failed because Stefanova lacked confidence in some of the most principled openings. So for the second tournament, they went in the opposite direction, aiming to throw the opponents out of their preparation and make them think for themselves in unfamiliar positions. The switch was from move-by-move memorization to plan-oriented thinking, and this proved quite successful. At the conclusion he writes about the books target audience and makes some interesting and good points:

"Club players have probably noticed that their opponents as a rule are well prepared against the central opening 1 e4/1 d4. If you are disappointed with your results, or just tired of endless studying the latest analyses in the most explored variations, you'll find here a viable repertoire versus 1...d5. You might also use my suggestions as surprise weapons.


Then I scan through this thread, and see people discussing theory fifteen moves deep. While grandmasters may indeed be able to remember 15 moves deep on various lines OTB, I know such learning is a total waste of time for me (one unexpected move and it all goes kaput).

So is this book actually less theoretical than, say, developing a D4 repertoire where you play the exchange, anti-meran, and similar? Is this book worth getting for someone around 1800 in terms of ideas for an OTB repertoire (as opposed to a theoretical discussion repertoire), or not?
  
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No obvious mention of 3.. Bg4. 4 Bb2 seems kind of tempting, if dogmatic, in response. Not at all clear of course but then nothing in this line is!

Also unmentioned is 9.. a4!? after 3.. f6 4 e3 e5 5 c5 d3 6 Qb3 e4 7 Nd4 a5 8 Nc3 f5 9 Ne6 which Pallisers gives in beating unusual chess openings, crediting Harvey Williamson from somewhere. Think I'd rather prefer Vass' 9 b5 to that.
  
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1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 3.b4 Bg4!


Indeed - I like that move order for Black myself - does Delchev even give it a mention because it doesn't come up in the index of variations?

TN wrote on 04/03/12 at 21:35:10:
I prefer White after 4.Qb3 f6 5.c5N, playing as in the Delchev book, but I have the feeling there's something stronger than the most popular move 4...f6.


Ah I missed this - I think when Nigel Short played this he just took on f3 after 4.Qb3 but I suppose White can claim to have some chances there with the two bishops although its far from that simple.
  
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I prefer White after 4.Qb3 f6 5.c5N, playing as in the Delchev book, but I have the feeling there's something stronger than the most popular move 4...f6.
  

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1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 3.b4 Bg4!
  
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Isn't there a survey in NIC YB 102 on the ...d4 line. I am way too busy now to check.


Yes, there is, but Tibor doesn't consider the best move 4.e3.
  

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Isn't there a survey in NIC YB 102 on the ...d4 line. I am way too busy now to check.
  
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Vass wrote on 04/03/12 at 07:42:12:
Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 04/03/12 at 04:57:29:
I have the book, and it seems as if 1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 d4 one must play 3. b4. But this line seems very crazy, so if one knows that the opponent will play 2...d4, would it be better to invert the sequence, i.e. 1. c4, 2. Nf3, and play 1. Nf3, 2. c4 against those who do not play 2...d4, for example if one knows that the opponent usually plays Slav or Semi-Slav?

1.c4 can be met by 1...e5 - that's why all the Reti players prefer 1.Nf3 first.  Wink


Unless one knows that the opponent never plays 1...e5 whilst preparing, at least looking at games in a database.


That's certainly an alternative and my decision on whether to play 1.Nf3 or 1.c4 (if I'm going to play an English) depends a lot on how I think the opponent will respond. However I don't think White should fear 2...d4 too much - it's a good move but this 3.b4 line seems easier for White to play in practice even if (as I suspect) it should be equal with best play.
  

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You're not at all forced to play 3 b4 there. The traditional main line of 3 g3 is a lot more 'rational'. Probably also consequently less dangerous for both sides. Or 3 e3 of course.
  
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Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 04/03/12 at 04:57:29:
I have the book, and it seems as if 1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 d4 one must play 3. b4. But this line seems very crazy, so if one knows that the opponent will play 2...d4, would it be better to invert the sequence, i.e. 1. c4, 2. Nf3, and play 1. Nf3, 2. c4 against those who do not play 2...d4, for example if one knows that the opponent usually plays Slav or Semi-Slav?

1.c4 can be met by 1...e5 - that's why all the Reti players prefer 1.Nf3 first.  Wink


Unless one knows that the opponent never plays 1...e5 whilst preparing, at least looking at games in a database.
  

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Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 04/03/12 at 04:57:29:
I have the book, and it seems as if 1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 d4 one must play 3. b4. But this line seems very crazy, so if one knows that the opponent will play 2...d4, would it be better to invert the sequence, i.e. 1. c4, 2. Nf3, and play 1. Nf3, 2. c4 against those who do not play 2...d4, for example if one knows that the opponent usually plays Slav or Semi-Slav?

1.c4 can be met by 1...e5 - that's why all the Reti players prefer 1.Nf3 first.  Wink
  
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I have the book, and it seems as if 1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 d4 one must play 3. b4. But this line seems very crazy, so if one knows that the opponent will play 2...d4, would it be better to invert the sequence, i.e. 1. c4, 2. Nf3, and play 1. Nf3, 2. c4 against those who do not play 2...d4, for example if one knows that the opponent usually plays Slav or Semi-Slav?
  

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Where to draw the line?

If lines are already well known it's also OK to give them here. There is no copyright on common knowledge. And it's possible to write something like "Author X thinks the game Y - Z critical".
  

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I was wondering about copyright considerations, I don't want to feel like a pirate. Where to draw the line?  Surely if I write up a whole chapter of analysis, that would be tut-tut. Just writing that he offers 3 g3, 3 e3 and 3 b4 vs 2 c4 d4 is surely OK. Answering TN's question in detail would be in between. Has this been discussed before? Sorry for the off-topic.


Its a delicate line - its OK to give what his main options are but not usually OK to give a ream of nitty gritty analysis. That said we have frequently given the odd snippets/suggestions here, which I think the publishers dont mind because its kind of a teaser for people to buy the book.
  
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[quote]Has this been discussed before?[/quote]
Dunno, but it seems to me Vass and TN have the balance about right.
  
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I was wondering about copyright considerations, I don't want to feel like a pirate. Where to draw the line?  Surely if I write up a whole chapter of analysis, that would be tut-tut. Just writing that he offers 3 g3, 3 e3 and 3 b4 vs 2 c4 d4 is surely OK. Answering TN's question in detail would be in between. Has this been discussed before? Sorry for the off-topic.
  
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TN wrote on 03/27/12 at 09:24:39:
Against 6.Qb3 I'd play 6...e4 7.Nd4 a5 8.Nc3 f5. Does Delchev have an improvement on move 8?

I just returned from Plovdiv where I bought the new Delchev's book from the chess shop at the European Championship (as well as many other new books from other authors). I didn't have enough time to read it yet. Now I see on page 44 he gives a long variation starting with 9.Ne6 Qe7 and then 10.Qa4+ which seems to be his analysis move (unlike the continuation in the Gabriel-Korchnoi game in 1999 i.e. 10.Nxf8). I would not give all the variation here because of copyright issues, but after his 15th move in the main line of his analysis he concludes "...and the e4-pawn should perish after g3, Bg2".
Btw, what 'recent practice' do you mean? I've found only two games in my Mega Database 2012 - the last one played in 2001.  Shocked (Though I admit I'm too lazy to check my correspondence chess databases..)
Meanwhile, I don't have to be Delchev to express my opinion that even the temporary pawn sacrifice via 9.b5!? (my mark) gives white more than a good compensation after say 9...Bxc5 10.Ne6 Qe7 11.Nxc5 Qxc5 12.Ba3...and so on... In short, 5...d3?! (Delchev's mark) can bring you only troubles.  Wink
Edit: I saw a correspondence game from 2010 where 10.Qa4 Kf7 11.Nxf8 was played so 10.Qa4 is not Delchev's move, obviously.  Cool


I'm not completely sure about 10.Qa4 being better for White, but I don't want to 'steal' all of Delchev's lines. 9.b5 looks good for White regardless.

My question was to determine whether I should buy the book - the book passed my little test.  Wink
  

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Against 6.Qb3 I'd play 6...e4 7.Nd4 a5 8.Nc3 f5. Does Delchev have an improvement on move 8?

I just returned from Plovdiv where I bought the new Delchev's book from the chess shop at the European Championship (as well as many other new books from other authors). I didn't have enough time to read it yet. Now I see on page 44 he gives a long variation starting with 9.Ne6 Qe7 and then 10.Qa4+ which seems to be his analysis move (unlike the continuation in the Gabriel-Korchnoi game in 1999 i.e. 10.Nxf8). I would not give all the variation here because of copyright issues, but after his 15th move in the main line of his analysis he concludes "...and the e4-pawn should perish after g3, Bg2".
Btw, what 'recent practice' do you mean? I've found only two games in my Mega Database 2012 - the last one played in 2001.  Shocked (Though I admit I'm too lazy to check my correspondence chess databases..)
Meanwhile, I don't have to be Delchev to express my opinion that even the temporary pawn sacrifice via 9.b5!? (my mark) gives white more than a good compensation after say 9...Bxc5 10.Ne6 Qe7 11.Nxc5 Qxc5 12.Ba3...and so on... In short, 5...d3?! (Delchev's mark) can bring you only troubles.  Wink
Edit: I saw a correspondence game from 2010 where 10.Qa4 Kf7 11.Nxf8 was played so 10.Qa4 is not Delchev's move, obviously.  Cool
  
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Against 6.Qb3 I'd play 6...e4 7.Nd4 a5 8.Nc3 f5. Does Delchev have an improvement on move 8?
  

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Out of interest, does Delchev think White has an edge after 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 3.b4 f6 4.e3 e5 5.c5 d3? I've thought for a while that only Black can play for an advantage after this move and recent practice hasn't changed my opinion.

Delchev doesn't consider this dangerous. It is a sideline in the book. I know his line starts with 6 Qb3. I can give you the whole line later today. Don't expect any informed assessment on my half, but I can parrot the lines on the forums. Smiley
  
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Incidentally I recall John Donaldson bringing up that approach quite a few years ago in his 1. Nf3 repertoire book, but he only mentioned someone who had played it (Zviagintsev maybe?) and that it seemed a cunning way to play, or some such.
  
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In any case it appears to be debatable whether White's anti-QGA transpo trick is all that effective.  Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't.
  

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Re Qxf3 in the QGA case, Rizzitano (citing e.g. Yusupov-Huebner and Yusupov-Lautier) contended that "Black has nothing to fear."

There's also the possibility of Black declining to take on f3 -- in the QGA case it was Rizzitano's other repertoire choice (citing e.g. Kramnik-Anand); offhand I would think Black could have grounds to prefer the Reti version of that to the QGA version.
  
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Interesting transposition that -in the Yusupov-Anand game the spectacular 18.e5!? and 19.Nxe6 nearly worked but the end was only good enough for a draw. All the same Black had to play it accurately, and I'm not sure White has any need for going into this either. So I'm sceptical about the equality claim I guess.

One thing I noticed is that in the pure QGA move-order the end-game after Qxf3!? is a safe option for White (I think Anand gave it as a suggestion) but in the Reti move-order I'm not sure because of the ..c4 business. Needs a proper look.
  
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9.... Nbd7 10. axb5 axb5 11. Rxa8 Qxa8 12. Na3 Bxf3 13. gxf3 (13.Qxf3!? Qxf3 14.gxf3 c4 15.Bc2 Bxa3 16.bxa3) b4 14. Nb5 (or the simple 14.Nc4 also looks decent) Qb7 15.d4 Be7 16.e4

I'd fancy Whites bishop pair and active position there, the doubled pawns don't seem much of a problem. I'm not sure White usually has this Na3 option in a normal QGA, the point being if Black plays the immediate ...b4 instead of ...Bxf3 to plug the Knight on the great c4 square.


14...Qb8 could transpose to known stuff -- 15. d4 Be7 16. e4 was thought by Rizzitano (citing e.g. Piket-Lautier and Yusupov-Anand) to lead to equality.
  
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Out of interest, does Delchev think White has an edge after 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 3.b4 f6 4.e3 e5 5.c5 d3? I've thought for a while that only Black can play for an advantage after this move and recent practice hasn't changed my opinion.
  

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I received a copy of this fascinating and original book, which I would recommend. It only treats 1...d5, but there is plenty of material out there on how to pkay in other cases. It offers White a method of avoiding both the Slav and the QGA, yet still playing the QGD or.Catalan in case of 2...e6. You have to believe in White's game against 2.,..d4, of course, but I don't find that difficult.

Still I wonder about 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.e3 c5 4.Bxc4 Nf6 5.0-0 e6 6.Qe2 a6 7.Rd1 b5 8.Bb3 Bb7 9.a4. This is supposed to be White's big point against Black's attempt to reach a stock QGA. The book considers 9...c4, 9...Qb6 and 9...b4. I propose, however, 9...Nbd7. The pawn is defended by tactical means, and I don't quite see White's advantage. It may not be a QGA but it has a certain QGA flavor.


9.... Nbd7 10. axb5 axb5 11. Rxa8 Qxa8 12. Na3 Bxf3 13. gxf3 (13.Qxf3!? Qxf3 14.gxf3 c4 15.Bc2 Bxa3 16.bxa3) b4 14. Nb5 (or the simple 14.Nc4 also looks decent) Qb7 15.d4 Be7 16.e4

I'd fancy Whites bishop pair and active position there, the doubled pawns don't seem much of a problem. I'm not sure White usually has this Na3 option in a normal QGA, the point being if Black plays the immediate ...b4 instead of ...Bxf3 to plug the Knight on the great c4 square.


  
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Still I wonder about 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.e3 c5 4.Bxc4 Nf6 5.0-0 e6 6.Qe2 a6 7.Rd1 b5 8.Bb3 Bb7 9.a4. This is supposed to be White's big point against Black's attempt to reach a stock QGA. The book considers 9...c4, 9...Qb6 and 9...b4. I propose, however, 9...Nbd7. The pawn is defended by tactical means, and I don't quite see White's advantage. It may not be a QGA but it has a certain QGA flavor.


Indeed 9...Nbd7 is a "book" move in the comparable QGA position (d4 instead of Rd1) ...
  
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I received a copy of this fascinating and original book, which I would recommend. It only treats 1...d5, but there is plenty of material out there on how to pkay in other cases. It offers White a method of avoiding both the Slav and the QGA, yet still playing the QGD or.Catalan in case of 2...e6. You have to believe in White's game against 2.,..d4, of course, but I don't find that difficult.

Still I wonder about 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.e3 c5 4.Bxc4 Nf6 5.0-0 e6 6.Qe2 a6 7.Rd1 b5 8.Bb3 Bb7 9.a4. This is supposed to be White's big point against Black's attempt to reach a stock QGA. The book considers 9...c4, 9...Qb6 and 9...b4. I propose, however, 9...Nbd7. The pawn is defended by tactical means, and I don't quite see White's advantage. It may not be a QGA but it has a certain QGA flavor.
  

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Although I've done well enough against 2...d4, I've always doubted the wisdom of letting black have the space.  So does he!  Delchev disapproves of 3.g3  and recommends a really vicious gambit line with b4 and e3. He also says that it is almost totally unexplored, that computer analysis is unreliable in this line, and significantly adds  "I think it is useless to give here some "main line" since the next 20 moves require an utmost precision and should be learned by heart." This is "out of step" with the rest of the book which as he says in the forward provides a flexible repertoire based on understanding of middle-game plans. 

However he does suggest a way out: "Note that Sicilian fans might prefer 1.c4 and turn to 2.Nf3 in the event of 1..e6 or 1...c6. Thus they would avoid 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4, which is by far the sharpest Black's  response."  (Chess-Stars could really use the services of a native English speaker as copy editor.)

There are a few places where he critiques related lines in Marin's and Averbakh's related anti-slav approaches and suggests upgrades. Practical use of this book seems to be in part dependent on what one wishes to avoid: the slav, the semi-slav, the queen's gambit, the 1.c4 English, or even the Reti with 2...d4.
  
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Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 03/03/12 at 03:59:50:
I wonder if Delchev will write a book on how to play against 1. Nf3 c5 and 1. Nf3 Nf6.

I doubt it. But the good news is BPaulsen writes about it.  Wink


Yeah, that's covered (or perhaps the better phrase is in the process of being covered as writing is ongoing), but to be fair Khalifman has covered it as well...my recommendations will just be markedly different in areas.
  

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I wonder if Delchev will write a book on how to play against 1. Nf3 c5 and 1. Nf3 Nf6.

I doubt it. But the good news is BPaulsen writes about it.  Wink
  
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Re: Delchev on Reti
Reply #67 - 03/03/12 at 11:27:32
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Maybe you have a look at the other chess-stars books such as the serie "Opening for White According to Kramnik" by Alexander Khalifman.
  
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I wonder if Delchev will write a book on how to play against 1. Nf3 c5 and 1. Nf3 Nf6. Or perhaps the other Chess Stars book on Kramnik's repertoire? I would not mind playing this against players who play the Slav and Semi-Slav, but if they play 1...c5 I am not sure what to do.
  

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Reply #65 - 02/26/12 at 21:28:50
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The main point of contrast is evidently going to be his advocacy of the traditional f4/g5 etc plan in the main neo-Catalan line with ...dxc4, as opposed to Marin's new/old notion of playing d4 and accepting hanging pawns. Intuitively I'm rather with Delchev, but it will interesting to see his case.
  
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Reply #64 - 02/26/12 at 07:54:49
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If anyone has the book, how is it, especially compared to Marin's Grandmaster Repertoire 4?
  

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Reply #63 - 02/23/12 at 02:21:20
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This book seems to be listed to purchase on the New In Chess website now, so I infer that it has been published: http://www.newinchess.com/The_Modern_R%C3%A9ti-p-7051.html

Also on London Chess Centre: http://www.ukgamesshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=chnew...
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Reply #62 - 02/20/12 at 15:50:54
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But Kamsky is not the typical club player I think we'd agree. Anyhow without worriers we'd have no books, but with the books we generate more worries, and so it goes on.
  
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Then White has to play 3. e3 or 3. g3 to avoid the Slav?
  

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Reply #60 - 02/17/12 at 21:35:26
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Bibs wrote on 02/17/12 at 01:14:25:
Very few folks play Nf6 intending a Slav. People over-worry. Never seen it, certainly would never occur at club level.


Kamsky has often played 1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 c6 and 1 c4 c6 2 Nf3 Nf6.

The point seems to be that after (say) 1 c4 c6 2 Nf3 d5 3 b3 he can't play the Schlecter slav setup which he is fond of, but delaying ...d5 buys him time for g6/Bg7.

I'm also considering playing this way Smiley
  
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Reply #59 - 02/17/12 at 18:20:14
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MNb wrote on 02/17/12 at 17:27:18:
Markovich wrote on 02/17/12 at 17:07:26:
I maintain my view that for a Slav player, 1...Nf6 is an excellent way to react to 1.Nf3 (and 1.c4).

1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 c6 allows 3.e4 d5 4.exd5 (Caro-Kann) and 4.e5, which might be unpleasant.


What I advocate after 2.Nc3 is 2...e5 intending 3.g3 Bb4.
  

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Reply #58 - 02/17/12 at 17:27:18
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Markovich wrote on 02/17/12 at 17:07:26:
I maintain my view that for a Slav player, 1...Nf6 is an excellent way to react to 1.Nf3 (and 1.c4).

1.c4 Nf6 2.Nc3 c6 allows 3.e4 d5 4.exd5 (Caro-Kann) and 4.e5, which might be unpleasant. That's obviously not the case with 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 c6. This position occurred more than 6 000 times acc. to my database, so it's not exactly uncommon.
At the other hand 3.b3 d6 4.Bb2 omitting d2-d4 seems to deserve to be considered. But again I would not call that hacking.
  

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Re: Hacking with 1.Nf3
Reply #57 - 02/17/12 at 17:07:26
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MartinC wrote on 02/17/12 at 10:12:15:
Dangerous weapons : flank openings and that upcoming Delchev book for chess stars both cover quite a bit of this between them.

You'd maybe not want the Reti stuff from Delchev, although it'd make an alternative, but it seems like he's going to be covering some rather hacky stuff vs 1 Nf3 d5 2 c4 d4 and the Guverich.

Also the flank openings section on chesspub (esp a couple of years back.).

Probably a generic English book/symmetrical english one for when you get that.

Pure hacking vs the KID? Non trivial, especially with Nf3 in. But you've got lots of very interesting positions to choose between.

I couldn't see the reason for two concurrent threads on 1.Nf3, so I joined them.

I maintain my view that for a Slav player, 1...Nf6 is an excellent way to react to 1.Nf3 (and 1.c4). 2.c4 c6 and if 2.e3 or 2.b3, Black can comfortably switch to an Old Indian or King's Indian structure, thus avoiding the Reti anti-Slav thingie.

(1.c4 Nf6 2.Nf3 c6 is the same, while if 2.Nf3, 2...e5 is very good, intending 3.g3 Bb4.)
  

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Re: Hacking with 1.Nf3
Reply #56 - 02/17/12 at 10:12:15
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Dangerous weapons : flank openings and that upcoming Delchev book for chess stars both cover quite a bit of this between them.

You'd maybe not want the Reti stuff from Delchev, although it'd make an alternative, but it seems like he's going to be covering some rather hacky stuff vs 1 Nf3 d5 2 c4 d4 and the Guverich.

Also the flank openings section on chesspub (esp a couple of years back.).

Probably a generic English book/symmetrical english one for when you get that.

Pure hacking vs the KID? Non trivial, especially with Nf3 in. But you've got lots of very interesting positions to choose between.
  
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Reply #55 - 02/17/12 at 05:45:54
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Eclectico wrote on 07/17/11 at 16:02:31:
I usually play a mainline 1.Nf3 repertoire similar to the Kramnik series (Anti-Grunfeld, QGD, Slav, Symmetrical English, and Maroczy Bind).  This positional repertoire suits me fairly well.  However, winning the quiet positions in the Slav and Maroczy usually requires better technical / end game skills than my opponent, which is not always the case Smiley

I'm looking for suggestions to fill in a few holes in my fiesty "backup" repertoire.  These are lines I play in situations where I believe I might have better tactical skills than my opponent or in "must win" games.  I'm not looking for a theoretical edge here, just the practical advantages of unorthodox, tactical play with a bare minimum of theory.

Sensible "hacking" lines after 1.Nf3:

1...d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.e4  Kramer's Gambit
1...d5 2.c4 d5 3.b4  Reverse Blumenfeld
1...d5 2.c4 c6 3.e3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.b3 Gurevich Anti-Slav
1...d5 2.c4 e6 3.d4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Be7 5.Bf4 Blackburn QGD with 0-0-0
1...f5 2.d3 Nf6 3.e4 Anti-Dutch
1...c5 2.e4 d6 (e6, Nc6 ) 3.b4 Sicilian Wing Gambit
1...Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.g4 Nimzo-English

I'm not worried about the various transpositions to the KID / Modern, since I believe white's edge in my mainline repertoire is already tactical enough.  My normal repertoire choice is 1.Nf3 Nf6 (g6) 2.c4 to avoid the grunfeld, benko and NID. 

However, 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 c5 is a real headache if you are looking for a sharp game.  I can't play 2.d4 since my mainline repertoire is designed to avoid the 42646B6264736E646807043/NID and Grunfeld.  Either I need to find some lively gambits in the symmetrical english or chose some offbeat move 2.  Is there a favorable line of something unorthodox where Nf6 is sub-optimal? 

1.Nf3 Nf6 2.b4 seems a good possibility since I'm playing b4 vs. the Sicilian and the Reti Advance.  This would avoid lines of the Orangutan which tend to give black easy play, such as 1.b4 d5 2.Bb2 Qd6 or 1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 Bxb4.  Is the Orangutan with an early Nf3 unbalancing enough to play for a win against an opponent who is better than me in a quiet technical game?

Any other repertoire recommendations greatly appreciated!


Oh and I was also wondering, any books you can reconmend for those back up rep lines?
  
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Reply #54 - 02/17/12 at 05:42:35
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Nice post. I think I am going to try some of the ideas here in my opening rep. One question for the original poster, I was curiouswhat do you play against the KID? What do you use to hack against that?
  
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Reply #53 - 07/21/11 at 12:15:31
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I have played 1...e5 in about 5 unrated bullet games, but that's the best I can say about it.

Also after 1.Nf3 f5 I would have thought that 2.e4 is much more in the hacking spirit than 2.d3.
  

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Reply #52 - 07/21/11 at 08:43:10
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Thank you for the game. What were the ratings? Also, is it 2007 or 2009?


Apologies for the scribing error. It was in 2009.

Neither of us had rapidplay ratings at the time. It was my first rapidplay tournament! Time control, all moves in 30 min. Our grades on the next list were ECF 181 for me (which converts to 2098) and ECF 162 for Ed which converts to 1946. Ed told me he had been using the gambit with some success at fast time controls.

My brain did a double take on move one as it was trying to comprehend why the black pawn wasn't on d5 and if I could really just take it  Huh
  

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Reply #51 - 07/21/11 at 02:06:09
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Here is my first win with the Buss Guss Gambit.

1 Nf3 e5 2 Nxe5 Nc6 3 Nf3 d5 4 g3 Bf5 5 Bg2 Qd7 6 00 000 7 d3 Bh3 8 c3 Bxg2 9 Kxg2 h5 10 h4 f6 11 Nbd2 12 g5 12 Rh1 g4 13 Ne1 d4 14 cxd4 Nxd4 15 Nc2 Qc6+ 0-1, nesska (1874) - Zilbermints, 5 0 r 5-minute blitz, Internet Chess Club, 20 July 2011.
  
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Thank you for the game. What were the ratings? Also, is it 2007 or 2009?
  
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Reply #49 - 07/20/11 at 23:13:44
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Gambit wrote on 07/20/11 at 19:30:55:
What about the Buss Guss Gambit, 1 Nf3 e5 2 Nxe5 Nc6 ? Any comments and games?


Attached is the game I played against Ed Farrington in the 2007 Oxford University 30 minute Rapidplay who won all of his other games and could well have won this one had he found the follow up to his Rook sac combo on move 24 after coming at me like a pawn saccing maniac right from move one  Shocked

  

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Reply #48 - 07/20/11 at 20:23:04
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Gambit wrote on 07/20/11 at 19:30:55:
What about the Buss Guss Gambit, 1 Nf3 e5 2 Nxe5 Nc6 ? Any comments and games?


Yes. 3.Nxc6 resigns (1-0), a Blitz game of mine where I was white.
  
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What about the Buss Guss Gambit, 1 Nf3 e5 2 Nxe5 Nc6 ? Any comments and games?
  
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Reply #46 - 07/18/11 at 23:28:14
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 07/18/11 at 16:47:20:
Stefan Buecker recently wrote that he was pretty sure 1.Nf3 is a mistake. He wasn't sure whether 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 was a mistake though.  Smiley


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Stefan Buecker recently wrote that he was pretty sure 1.Nf3 is a mistake. He wasn't sure whether 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 was a mistake though.  Smiley
  
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Reply #44 - 07/18/11 at 10:44:08
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MNb wrote on 07/18/11 at 10:19:44:
No. I'm not. It's possible that 4...Nc6 (which was recommended by Williams) does not give equality either, but it has been known since years that 2...Nf6 is inferior.
I always play 1...e6. After 2.c4 (I don't really see how this fits in White's gambit) f5 3.h3 Nf6 4.g4 Black has the reasonable 4...b6. There is no need to adopt a Stonewall structure.


1...e6 is of course fine.

2...d6 with 4...Nc6 is nothing special (black's life still isn't that easy after 5. exf5), if it were I'd have to think two of the Dutch specialist GMs I run into regularly in blitz would've used it by now if it were instead of opting constantly for 2...Nc6. It's really hard to argue a white edge when moves like 3. d4!? might be best. Nimzowitsch would be proud, but that's about it.  Grin
  

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Reply #43 - 07/18/11 at 10:19:44
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Eclectico wrote on 07/17/11 at 21:04:12:
Having played 1.Nf3 f5 2.d3 something like 300 times in blitz, I think I have seen 2...d6 maybee once.

That means that your opponents haven't studied Play the Classical Dutch.

BPaulsen wrote on 07/17/11 at 22:15:17:
Please tell me you're not thinking of Williams' 4...c5

No. I'm not. It's possible that 4...Nc6 (which was recommended by Williams) does not give equality either, but it has been known since years that 2...Nf6 is inferior.
I always play 1...e6. After 2.c4 (I don't really see how this fits in White's gambit) f5 3.h3 Nf6 4.g4 Black has the reasonable 4...b6. There is no need to adopt a Stonewall structure.
  

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Reply #42 - 07/18/11 at 09:30:00
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Just a hint!.. If you want an offbeat continuation then try 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. a3!?
Example variations (you can vary anywhere you want to):
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. a3 g6 4. b4 Bg7 5. bxc5 Qa5 6. Bb2 Na6 7. Bc3 Qxc5 8. e3 O-O 9. d4 Qc7 10. Nbd2 d5 11. Rc1 Bf5 12. cxd5 Nxd5 13. Bb2 Qa5 14. Qb3 *
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. a3 Nc6 4. Nc3 g6 5. Rb1 d5 6. cxd5 Nxd5 7. e4 Nc7 8. b4 cxb4 9. axb4 Bg7 10. b5 Nd4 11. Nxd4 Qxd4 12. Ba3 O-O 13. Be2 Ne6 14. O-O Nf4 15. Bxe7 Re8 16. Bg5 Be5 17. Re1 Be6 18. Bf1 f6 19. Bh6 Nd3 20. Be3 Qd7 21. Bxd3 Qxd3 22. Rc1 b6 23. Qa4 *
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. a3 e6 4. e3 d5 5. d4 Nc6 6. dxc5 Bxc5 7. b4 Be7 8. Bb2 * ...with some Tarrasch's stuff
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. a3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. e4 Nc7 6. d4 cxd4 7. Qxd4 Qxd4 8. Nxd4 e5 9. Nb5 Nxb5 10. Bxb5+ *
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. a3 d6 4. e3 g6 5. d4 Bg7 6. Nc3 O-O 7. h3 Qb6 8. Rb1 e5 9. dxc5 dxc5 10. e4 Rd8 11. Nd5 Qd6 12. Bd3 Nc6 13. O-O *

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Reply #41 - 07/18/11 at 08:45:27
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Yes, I was playing it as a break from 1 e4 so... Smiley

The symmetrical english would likely be the soundest/easiest way to meet 1 .. c5. Black does gain the odd non trivial option from not having Nf6 in - Nc6, e5 if you play Nc3 for instance. But nothing massive.

Actually I guess one other option would be to play the 1 Nc3 lines where you go for d4 without playing e4 first. Tricky things and you're not a pawn down!

The main early d4 symmetrical english line thing is 1 c4 c5 2 Nf3 Nf6 3 d4 cd 4 Nxd4 e6 5 Nc3 Nc6 when various options, 6 a3 keeps bits on etc. 6 g3 is the oldish main line and has some non trivial theory. But its actually very sharp in the principal lines and I'd suspect theory most people at this sort of level might not know. So worth looking at.

1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 c5 3 Nc3 e6 is a little tricky due to the 4 Nf3 Nimzo/Semi Tarrasch transpositions you've got. 3 d4 more economical but you'll need to look (hard!) at the 4 .. e5 gambit stuff.

There's also black going into the Symettrical dragon but suppose you'll be OK with that.

Oh I'm assuming you've got dangerous weapons the flank openings. Because if not you really should Smiley
  
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Mostly good fun - I've gone this way myself at times Smiley Well open Sicillians and not the wing gambit! (ugh.).


Thank you for such a constructive post.  This amateur simply doesn't have time to take up sharper lines of the open sicilian for my 2nd string "active" repertoire.  Is my current skill level worth considering here?  I'm a 38 year old 1900 (USCF) with 5 years OTB experience, who will probably never go higher than 2200. 

In this "active" repertoire I'm looking for lines to use against the typical 65 year old former expert who is floored at 2000 - his endgame skills are still better than me, but maybe he is not tactically as sharp any more.  I also want the 2nd string repertoire to focus more on initiative to help me develop my tactical strength.  It would help if they were good blitz lines, since my local club has frequent G/30 quads.  I'm tired of losing games on time when i have a superior pawn structure, space advantage or need 20 more moves to promote my queenside majority Smiley

Perhaps it makes more sense to just seek the friskiest lines I can within the symmetrical english.  Fortunately I already play an early d4 vs. an early Nc6.  I would like you use your excellent suggestion vs. the Keres/Parma as my "active" choice whilst maintaining the 5.d4/6.g3 Tarrasch setup as my "solid" chioce.  Do you think there is a reasonable way to create chaos in other lines of the symmetrical with d4?  My experience has been that an early d4 often quickly leads to a queenless middle game / end game. 
  
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Reply #39 - 07/17/11 at 22:15:17
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MNb wrote on 07/17/11 at 19:34:13:
Eclectico wrote on 07/17/11 at 16:02:31:
1...f5 2.d3 Nf6 3.e4 Anti-Dutch

Since Simon Williams every player of the Dutch knows that 2...d6 is better. Moreover you have to deal with 1...e6.


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Please tell me you're not thinking of Williams' 4...c5 (after 3. e4 e5 4. Nc3), because black will be lucky to survive the opening in tact against a prepared white player. The only reason Williams' pet has done as well as it has is because white players haven't looked into it all that deeply (most white players that head for 2. d3 are doing it to avoid preparation). In fact, the one game I see in the database that Williams got this, he was worse by move 8, and only white going passive bailed him out.

The player I second for is an experienced Dutch player, and we both agree 2...Nc6 is the best bet when 3. d4 just leads to an unclear game (an equal game if white plays c4 too early in follow up).

I've played this line against numerous titled players on ICC in lightning and/or blitz, ones that actually specialize in the Dutch by reputation (and they know it's coming since I've used it before against them), and even they aren't opting for 2...d6 all that much.

Also, if you head to the main line of 2...d6, which is 3. e4 e5 4. Nc3 Nf6 white will retain an edge after 5. exf5, so I don't get how 2...d6 is supposed to be something special.
  

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Reply #38 - 07/17/11 at 21:04:12
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MNb wrote on 07/17/11 at 19:34:13:
Since Simon Williams every player of the Dutch knows that 2...d6 is better. Moreover you have to deal with 1...e6.


Having played 1.Nf3 f5 2.d3 something like 300 times in blitz, I think I have seen 2...d6 maybee once. Regardless, at least this stuff is in the spirit of the open games i'm aiming for. 

Against 1...e6 I would like to exploit black's early king exposure with a gambit to open lines.  Any thoughts on my own invention:  1.Nf3 e6 2.c4 f5 3.h3 Nf6 4.g4!?  My intention is the same as the d3 lines... white gets a raging attack after say 4... fg 5.hg Nxg4 6.Qc2 Nf6 7.Ng5.  Black can decline the gambit if he's willing to play a stonewall structure, but that isn't everyone's cup of tea. 

Of more concern is 1...d6 when my repertoire against the modern / old indian require 2.d4.  Do you have any thoughts on this KID style line where white goes for early queenside expansion?  1.Nf3 d6 2.d4 f5 3.c4 Nf6 4. Nc3 g6 5.e3 Bg7 6.b4! 
  
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Eclectico wrote on 07/17/11 at 16:02:31:
1...f5 2.d3 Nf6 3.e4 Anti-Dutch

Since Simon Williams every player of the Dutch knows that 2...d6 is better. Moreover you have to deal with 1...e6.
  

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Reply #36 - 07/17/11 at 18:24:34
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Mostly good fun - I've gone this way myself at times Smiley Well open Sicillians and not the wing gambit! (ugh.).

A few more bits to complete a bit:
1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 b6 4 e4 Bb7 5 Bd3!? - great fun and a bit of (old!) theory. 

1 Nf3 g6 2 c4 Nf6 3 Nc3 d5 4 cd Nxd5 5 e4!? ^ Nxc3 6 bc and then development before a slightly delayed d4.

Much more popular to go d4 directly there, but there are Ba3 ideas which a few have tried. I was actually wondering about trying Be2/o-o/Rb1 and then d4 to get a Rb1 exchange without dropping a2. Its not obviously silly. There are also of course the Qa4+ antis which seem popular.

The KID/Moderns I suspect you'll just have to go d4 and turn anti theoretical from there. Or perhaps the (very) early Q - side expansion ideas.

I really do conceptually like the 3 b4/e3 lines after 2 c4 d4, but I'm just not sure if they actually work all that well. They'll at least need checking. Some very random stuff with an early c5 I suppose.

As for the symmetrical, the thematically center oriented/activity thing to do is go for a quick d4. Probably with 3 Nc3 first because the 3.. d5 4 cd Nxd5 5 e4!? variation fits so well! 6 a3 anti benoni say.

Oh and I hate the idea of the wing gambit, but there you go Smiley
  
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Hacking with 1.Nf3
Reply #35 - 07/17/11 at 16:02:31
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I usually play a mainline 1.Nf3 repertoire similar to the Kramnik series (Anti-Grunfeld, QGD, Slav, Symmetrical English, and Maroczy Bind).  This positional repertoire suits me fairly well.  However, winning the quiet positions in the Slav and Maroczy usually requires better technical / end game skills than my opponent, which is not always the case Smiley

I'm looking for suggestions to fill in a few holes in my fiesty "backup" repertoire.  These are lines I play in situations where I believe I might have better tactical skills than my opponent or in "must win" games.  I'm not looking for a theoretical edge here, just the practical advantages of unorthodox, tactical play with a bare minimum of theory.

Sensible "hacking" lines after 1.Nf3:

1...d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.e4  Kramer's Gambit
1...d5 2.c4 d5 3.b4  Reverse Blumenfeld
1...d5 2.c4 c6 3.e3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.b3 Gurevich Anti-Slav
1...d5 2.c4 e6 3.d4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Be7 5.Bf4 Blackburn QGD with 0-0-0
1...f5 2.d3 Nf6 3.e4 Anti-Dutch
1...c5 2.e4 d6 (e6, Nc6 ) 3.b4 Sicilian Wing Gambit
1...Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.g4 Nimzo-English

I'm not worried about the various transpositions to the KID / Modern, since I believe white's edge in my mainline repertoire is already tactical enough.  My normal repertoire choice is 1.Nf3 Nf6 (g6) 2.c4 to avoid the grunfeld, benko and NID. 

However, 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 c5 is a real headache if you are looking for a sharp game.  I can't play 2.d4 since my mainline repertoire is designed to avoid the QID/NID and Grunfeld.  Either I need to find some lively gambits in the symmetrical english or chose some offbeat move 2.  Is there a favorable line of something unorthodox where Nf6 is sub-optimal? 

1.Nf3 Nf6 2.b4 seems a good possibility since I'm playing b4 vs. the Sicilian and the Reti Advance.  This would avoid lines of the Orangutan which tend to give black easy play, such as 1.b4 d5 2.Bb2 Qd6 or 1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 Bxb4.  Is the Orangutan with an early Nf3 unbalancing enough to play for a win against an opponent who is better than me in a quiet technical game?

Any other repertoire recommendations greatly appreciated!
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Reply #34 - 02/17/12 at 08:48:05
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I'll go 1.Nf3, c6 till I've sorted this out.
  
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Reply #33 - 02/17/12 at 01:14:25
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Very few folks play Nf6 intending a Slav. People over-worry. Never seen it, certainly would never occur at club level.
People just learn an opening, rock up after work to a match, lob the moves onto the board.
1...Nf6 is another opening, another book.

Delchev is presenting something v d5. Just that. 'Does it exactly what it says on the tin.'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXznmGz2fy4
  
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I suppose one would have to play 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4, which avoids the Slav due to 2...c6 3. e3 or 3. g3, and Semi-Slav/QGD/QGA after 2...e6 due to 3. g3 or 3. e3 as well. But then the only problem would be 2...c5.


I can't see 3.g3 in reaction to 2...c6; that's right where Black's c-pawn should be to fight the fianchetto. I know that b3 in combination with e3, and no move of the d-pawn,  is considered good against the Black's attempt to reach a Slav, but I wonder how good it is if Black plays ...d6, ...Nbd7 and ...e5, switching to an Old Indian or King's Indian formation. Neither e3 nor b3 seems all that felicitous then, to me anyway.
  

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I suppose one would have to play 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4, which avoids the Slav due to 2...c6 3. e3 or 3. g3, and Semi-Slav/QGD/QGA after 2...e6 due to 3. g3 or 3. e3 as well. But then the only problem would be 2...c5.


There's also 2...b6, 2...g6, 2...Nc6 and 2...d6.
  

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I suppose one would have to play 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4, which avoids the Slav due to 2...c6 3. e3 or 3. g3, and Semi-Slav/QGD/QGA after 2...e6 due to 3. g3 or 3. e3 as well. But then the only problem would be 2...c5.
  

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Dangerous really Smiley Yes its not all that 'natural' for them to start 1.. Nf6 rather than 1..d5 but they're not losing anything doing so and its best to organise to cope with the transpositions.

Otherwise someone will spot it on a database and....
  
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I suppose it is safe to assume that those who play 1. Nf3 Nf6 will not play the Slav, Semi-Slav, or QGA, but it would be a slight dilemma if after 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. d4 d5.
  

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Well not totally different with black still entirely capable of going c6/d5 or e6/d5? Means you need to go c4 and then b3/g3 at need to stay in the Reti stuff.

But yes this also implies a whole bundle of other distinctive lines.
  
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I will buy this book to play the systems recommended against the Slav, Semi-Slav, QGA systems and probably use Avrukh's recommendations on the Catalan, but how would one use this Réti-style repertoire against 1...Nf6?


You can't, but 1...Nf6 is a completely different kettle of fish.
  

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I will buy this book to play the systems recommended against the Slav, Semi-Slav, QGA systems and probably use Avrukh's recommendations on the Catalan, but how would one use this Réti-style repertoire against 1...Nf6?
  

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1 Nf3 Nf6 2 c4 c5 is rather harder to sensibly avoid Smiley
  
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MartinC wrote on 02/10/12 at 18:26:20:
Well the KID/Grunfeld are perfectly fine to good fun play against.

Against the KID I rather have a pawn on f3 iso a Knight ....
The Grünfeld is no problem after 1.Nf3, those lines without d2-d4 are attractive.

MartinC wrote on 02/10/12 at 18:26:20:
The Symmetrical English probably the bit which gets a bit trickier to get sharp.

As far as 1.Nf3 c5 is concerned: me coming from 1.e4 would just play 2.e4 and 3.d4 (remember, I'm a corr. player).

Viking wrote on 02/10/12 at 19:58:07:
I dont see how the nimzo english will fit with the reti QG b3 structure as black has the option of going 3..d5 instead of the nimzo characteristic 3..Bb4...

No problem for me, iso the Neo-Catalan I would play d2-d4 at a suitable point anyway. I'm mainly interested in a way to meet/avoid the Slav Accepted (...dxc4). Yeah, the combination of a Bishop on b2 and a storm with g2-g4-g5 appeals to my caveman instincts. But then I find it hard to suppress them after 1.Nf3 Nf6.
  

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Reply #22 - 02/10/12 at 20:59:00
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Good point Smiley Suppose I'm somehow unsure if 3 g3 really quite thematically fits with all the tactical stuff elsewhere, but if after the reti it'll have to be that.
  
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MartinC wrote on 02/10/12 at 18:26:20:
Well the KID/Grunfeld are perfectly fine to good fun play against.  Nizmo English too, with the g4 theme even thematically consistent Wink


I dont see how the nimzo english will fit with the reti QG b3 structure as black has the option of going 3..d5 instead of the nimzo characteristic 3..Bb4...
  
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I find the opposite; playing against the Grünfeld is more unpleasant than playing against the Slav. But I play fianchetto against the King's Indian, which would be pleasant to play.
  

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Well the KID/Grunfeld are perfectly fine to good fun play against.  Nizmo English too, with the g4 theme even thematically consistent Wink

The Symmetrical English probably the bit which gets a bit trickier to get sharp, although the early d4 stuff is fairly lively. Actually the old main line of that is very sharp, just seemingly not so great for white.
  
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The book looks excellent indeed and I'm tempted to take up 1.Nf3. Alas Delchev doesn't address 1.Nf3 Nf6. So I looked up the games by Stefanova and Delchev himself and here their choices are much less attractive.
So perhaps Delchev on Réti Volume 2 is a good idea?


Yes, this is only really a repertoire vs Slav, QGD etc (i.e. 1..d5)

So there's no coverage of KID, Grunfeld etc.
  
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The book looks excellent indeed and I'm tempted to take up 1.Nf3. Alas Delchev doesn't address 1.Nf3 Nf6. So I looked up the games by Stefanova and Delchev himself and here their choices are much less attractive.
So perhaps Delchev on Réti Volume 2 is a good idea?
  

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Reply #16 - 02/10/12 at 11:47:13
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I have no doubt that this book written by my compatriot Alexander Delchev will be an excellent pearl in the Chess Stars bibliography. Knowing him for many years (though I retired from the competitive OTB chess since 1994) I can state here he is one of the best chess theoreticians in our country. And not only that!.. He is an explorer in chess - he always analyses in great depth doing his own researches in the opening fields where no final conclusions are drawn. He also gives help to our young chess players in their opening preparation, does opening preparation seminars at tournaments never trying to hide his profound knowledge in this field and so on...and so on.. No wonder why Mr Semkov has chosen him as one of his main authors for Chess Stars.  Wink
  
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Well, what the exert says is that there are going to be three lines there. Only mentions the two mind - 3 b4 f6 4 e3 e5 5 c5 a5 6 Bb5+ c6 7 Bc4 as the 'main' idea and 3 e3 Nc6 4 b4.

He calls it 'slightly out of step with the rest of the book', presumably because these things are getting a bit more towards dangerous weapons territory than the rest. Probably entirely effective over the board mind, and maybe there is genuine theoretical interest in there.
  
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After reading the excerpt, this books looks very interesting indeed!
  
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Chessexplained wrote on 02/10/12 at 10:06:02:
I am very curious about this book as well, especially about the analysis on 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 3.b4 f6 - this is imho the main problem with this move order. Delchev's line(s) there will be based mostly on own new ideas, as there are only very few good level games to look at.
If this is fine for white, 2.c4 is just superior to 2.d4 and 2.g3 in terms of flexibility/move order issues.

Not according to Kramnik. His answer to 1...d5 (after 1.Nf3) is always 2.d4.. And we all know he knows something about this 1.Nf3 opening.  Wink
  
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I am very curious about this book as well, especially about the analysis on 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 3.b4 f6 - this is imho the main problem with this move order. Delchev's line(s) there will be based mostly on own new ideas, as there are only very few good level games to look at.
If this is fine for white, 2.c4 is just superior to 2.d4 and 2.g3 in terms of flexibility/move order issues.
  
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The (lengthy!) except can also found on the Chess stars web page. I like it a lot. The topic has not been well covered before and Delchev seems to have lots of new ideas.

I play the slav myself and was caught in the Rg1 lines last year. They seem easier to play for white. A further incentive, as pointed out by the author, is that black seldom studies these lines in much detail. I hadn't done so.

I like many of the Chess stars books. Well chosen topics, written by top level players who seems to know their subjects very well. They never seem to hold back any information either.
  

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I emailed Semko on the 31st of Jan and he was very quick to answer that the books (also Vitiugov's French Reloaded) were going to be released about Feb 20!
  
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I just see the excerpt for this book:

http://www.chessdirect.co.uk/acatalog/x8287.pdf

It looks interesting; I did not know that so much theory existed for these lines, and in some cases, I did not know that these lines even existed.

I see a new addition with the "Points to Remember" box at the end of the "Main Ideas" chapter in the excerpt.

Does anyone know when in February this book is due to be published?
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Well since theory is really accumulated experience, yes its inevitable for anything good enough for real GM games Smiley (and this has seen some.).
  
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I have never even heard of this system before. Perhaps in this era even openings that are anti-theory are starting to acquire their own theoretical analyses? When the Trompowsky was played in its initial years, it was to avoid theory; now there is quite a bit of theory on the Trompowsky. Maybe this pattern will follow with other openings as well?
  

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As I remember there's a fair number of games on it in the flank openings chess pub section. (not recently but a couple of years back.). Kosten did a chapter in the dangerous weapons flanks openings too.

Personally I can't quite decide whether to be excited or depressed that something so originally anti theory deserves a whole repitoire book now Smiley
  
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sounds basically like the old Mikhail Gurevich approach!? Sure this was discussed here before somewhere as one of the various options to avoid the dreaded Slav set-up.
  
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There´s a new book announced from Chess Stars
( http://chess-stars.com/forthcoming_books.html )

The Modern Reti . An Anti-Slav Repertoire
by GM Alexander Delchev, expected in january 2012

"This book is devoted to 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4. It examines the answers 2...dxc4, 2...d4, 2...e6, but its focus is on the Slav setup 2...c6 3.e3. Delchev extensively analyses White's sharpest approach with b3, Rg1 and g4, but he also presents a solid backup setup with short castling. This new work of the author of The Safest Sicilian and The Safest Grunfeld offers a lot of original analysis."

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