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Re: Looking for Safe Chess Engine Download or Purchase
Reply #145 - 02/29/16 at 04:47:57
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NegiRefutes wrote on 02/28/16 at 19:23:43:
http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/cgi/engine_details.cgi?print=Details&each_... 7 64-bit 4CPU#Stockfish_7_64-bit_4CPU

Stockfish 7 is beating Komodo 9.3 28-24 in a 40 40 time control.
Stockfish 7 also beats Komodo 9.2 76.5 - 59.5


You know, I had seen these results last night after I posted in this thread already. These do not surprise me. In blitz, Stockfish 290116 64 POPCNT is an absolute monster. It's beating Komodo 9.1 on my machine, using chessbase's live book, at a 4-1 clip. It's elo is so much higher that 9.3 is obviously rated lower than Stockfish 7/Dev at this point. They even have 9.3 performing "worse" than 9.2. Kind of makes it impossible for me to talk myself into buying 9.3 just to see. I know I wouldn't be happy with the results.

I've looked endlessly online and can't find the start date for TCEC 9. Should be extremely interesting.
  
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Re: Looking for Safe Chess Engine Download or Purchase
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http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/cgi/engine_details.cgi?print=Details&each_...

Stockfish 7 is beating Komodo 9.3 28-24 in a 40 40 time control.
Stockfish 7 also beats Komodo 9.2 76.5 - 59.5
  
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Reply #143 - 02/28/16 at 00:00:37
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Stockfish 7 is outperforming it's own post release development versions and handling Komodo 9.1 quite nicely on my machine. Currently wondering whether dropping the $60 (for 9.3) or $100 (for the year) on Komodo 9.3. I am by no means a high rated player (I'm about a 1500 USCF skill level but have reached that rating in a short period after beginning to play chess as an adult). Software like Chessbase, Fritz 15, and engines are totally up my ally so I've been spending some time using them lately. I'm considering playing cpu vs cpu chess on PlayChess a little bit, too.

Anyone running K9.3 vs SF7? How's it usually play out? Is it worth it to upgrade from 9.1 to 9.3? Thanks.

  
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Reply #142 - 01/27/16 at 12:19:42
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BenkoFan wrote on 01/12/16 at 10:46:12:
Also seems to be up there with Houdini and Komodo on the computer rating lists.


Stockfish is very strong, I use it all the time. Smiley
  
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Reply #141 - 01/12/16 at 10:46:12
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StockFish is open source software. Also seems to be up there with Houdini and Komodo on the computer rating lists.
  
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Re: The best analysis program?
Reply #140 - 01/11/16 at 01:15:17
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Yes.
  
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Re: The best analysis program?
Reply #139 - 01/11/16 at 00:29:08
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Stockfish 7? Is that free?
  
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Reply #138 - 01/08/16 at 18:11:26
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After hearing so much of Komodo I got it and installed it. So far I am hugely dissapointed, I still trust far more the evaluations of Houdini 1.5
  
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Reply #137 - 01/08/16 at 11:29:21
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I've started using Stockfish 7, and it seems pretty good.
  
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Re: The best analysis program?
Reply #136 - 12/07/15 at 18:40:47
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I use Komodo 9.3 for analysis but I must say I love the new Fritz 15 engine/GUI combo for training.  Play a game in friend mode and after it presents training positions to review where you missed tactics or threats.
  
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Re: The best analysis program?
Reply #135 - 12/07/15 at 16:37:32
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It's Rybka 4.1 + 40 elo points or so. Way stronger than Deep Fritz 14, but not in the same league as Komodo, Stockfish or even Houdini.

The GUI does have some nice new features. Most importantly, the database functions have been improved a bit, so while it's no replacement for ChessBase 13, it could work as a first database program for lower rated players.
  
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Reply #134 - 12/07/15 at 13:15:44
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Has anyone tried Fritz 15 yet?
  
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Re: The best analysis program?
Reply #133 - 05/01/15 at 19:52:07
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will give this Komodo 6 a go, I am still on Houdini 1.5, not sure if that is bad  Embarrassed
  
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Re: The best analysis program?
Reply #132 - 05/01/15 at 08:05:19
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DenVerdsligeRejsende wrote on 05/01/15 at 00:43:07:
I have Komodo 6 and Stockfisk 6 (64-bit). I am now analysing the Caro-Kann Advance for Black with 3...Lf5 as home analyses. I tried both left on overnight on a critical position past move 20 and it made my laptop slower, although my laptop is new and fast (HP brand). Is Komodo should be the main engine nowadays then? When I quit one engine from the two it makes my computer faster again.

Even more confusing to me is that when I have both on I get things like this:

Komodo +0,32 Stockfisk +0,07

Sometimes also it goes one negative one positive:

Komodo +0,23 Stockfisk -0,02

So is one seeing something than the other?


I always use 1 engine per computer. Today I am using 2 engines for analyzing positions so I have 2 computers. This avoids the loss of time for swapping between both engines. An extra benefit is that I have also an extra screen on which I can permanently monitor both engines in parallel. That is still one less than e.g. Shipov when doing his online commentary see http://www.chessintranslation.com/2012/05/two-cats-and-three-computers-sergey-sh...

If you use the last versions of Komodo and Stockfish then I don't think there is any substantial difference in strength overall. That was also proven in the previous TCEC final. However each engine will have specific positions which are played a bit better than the other. So it makes sense to do the analysis with both.

Each engine has its own evaluationmethod. A small difference of evaluation between engines doesn't necessarily mean that some engine sees anything extra just that it evaluates the position a bit different. It is up to the operator to detect if the difference in evaluation is a matter of pure evaluation or more important moves. Sometimes it is sufficient to look at the mainlines but often more analysis is needed to understand the difference in evaluation.
  
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Re: The best analysis program?
Reply #131 - 05/01/15 at 00:43:07
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I have Komodo 6 and Stockfisk 6 (64-bit). I am now analysing the Caro-Kann Advance for Black with 3...Lf5 as home analyses. I tried both left on overnight on a critical position past move 20 and it made my laptop slower, although my laptop is new and fast (HP brand). Is Komodo should be the main engine nowadays then? When I quit one engine from the two it makes my computer faster again.

Even more confusing to me is that when I have both on I get things like this:

Komodo +0,32 Stockfisk +0,07

Sometimes also it goes one negative one positive:

Komodo +0,23 Stockfisk -0,02

So is one seeing something than the other?
  
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