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Re: Von hennig schara gambit
Reply #17 - 10/03/23 at 16:22:33
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Awesome link! There's no doubt Niemann can play like the strongest computers. When improving over time (he's just 20), he will prove all skeptics wrong by playing above computer level, right?
As for the VHS gambit, there is definite compensation, but the right attacking moves may be difficult to find once Black put his pieces out (unless you feel good vibrations, of course).
  
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Re: Von hennig schara gambit
Reply #16 - 10/01/23 at 22:20:04
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Kerangali wrote on 10/01/23 at 08:00:10:
@Kylemeister: thanks for that context, is the game commented in New In Chess?
Frankly, when browsing it with Lichess comp, I thought both players had computer assistance. Play level is indeed stratospheric.

I came across the quote at chessgames.com, and found that it was a (pinned) comment to a YouTube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciXhruTAsjE

(I don't know if the game appeared in NIC; evidently their online database is no longer up to that job.)
  
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Re: Von hennig schara gambit
Reply #15 - 10/01/23 at 21:14:58
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Compensation or not compensation, that's the question xD

That kind of long term compensation it's difficult to prove. Simply develope, getting the rooks out and we'll see... it seems too artificial for me. I am going to test the lines, but... I hope I will not leave my faith in the Schara-Hennig gambit ;[

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Reply #14 - 10/01/23 at 08:00:10
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@Kylemeister: thanks for that context, is the game commented in New In Chess?
Frankly, when browsing it with Lichess comp, I thought both players had computer assistance. Play level is indeed stratospheric.
  
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Re: Von hennig schara gambit
Reply #13 - 09/30/23 at 20:30:09
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Kerangali wrote on 09/30/23 at 19:56:29:
I remember the Queen circuit Qa4-d4-d1 to be comfy for White. Something like 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.cxd5 cxd4 5.Qa4+ Bd7 6.Qxd4 exd5 7.Qxd5 Nf6 8.Bc5 9.Nf3 0-0 and the Lichess computer likes White after 9.e3 or 9.a3, the latter with a weird Niemann-Warmerdam game.

"Having studied this for my latest Chessable course up until 29...Kc8, it was odd to see him reach all the way there after being out of book after 11...h6. It became clear to me from this game that he is an absolute genius or something else." -- Warmerdam

(On a side note, one might wonder if Warmerdam still looks, or for how long he will continue to look, like he's about 14 years old.)
  
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Reply #12 - 09/30/23 at 19:56:29
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I remember the Queen circuit Qa4-d4-d1 to be comfy for White. Something like 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.cxd5 cxd4 5.Qa4+ Bd7 6.Qxd4 exd5 7.Qxd5 Nf6 8.Bc5 9.Nf3 0-0 and the Lichess computer likes White after 9.e3 or 9.a3, the latter with a weird Niemann-Warmerdam game.
  
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Reply #11 - 09/30/23 at 10:36:13
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I thought the Bronznik material was pretty soung too. Caveat, I haven't looked at it in a while (pre NNUE).
  
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Re: Von hennig schara gambit
Reply #10 - 09/30/23 at 06:03:36
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I think 13.a3 against Black castling queenside is a near-refutation. The important thing to remember as White is meeting x...g4 with y.Nh4. It blocks Black's attack and controls square f5. Then White basically has the pawn and the attack.
Black castling kingside is harder to meet.
  
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Re: Von hennig schara gambit
Reply #9 - 09/29/23 at 17:38:06
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I have been testing some 1.e4 as W with moderate success (after being a not-so-aggro player), and the Von Hennig Schara is seem to me a good to mix to soundness and trikiness for Black.

How practically is it? I think 100% in blitz, but in 90 min time controls...?

I know that at sub 2000 fide, you can play everything, of course xD

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Re: Von hennig schara gambit
Reply #8 - 09/16/22 at 20:29:43
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GM Eljanov published the following work last year:

https://www.modern-chess.com/1-d4-d5-2-c4-e6-3-nc3-c5-complete-repertoire-for-bl...

I would wait for this to go on sale.
  
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Re: Von hennig schara gambit
Reply #7 - 08/09/15 at 14:28:43
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I agree the Hennig Schara is pretty annoying. I think playing a sideline like nxd4 as you mentioned is a good idea. You will probably face this opening pretty rarely and so likely will not have a lot of theoretical knowledge meaning your opponent is likely better prepared.
  
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Re: Von hennig schara gambit
Reply #6 - 04/06/12 at 16:33:05
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Klick wrote on 04/06/12 at 15:51:30:
his chances there are very good.

You might be interested in and got surprised by IM Bronznik's research:

Beat the Guerilla's
and Das Schara-Hennig Gambit.
  
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Re: Von hennig schara gambit
Reply #5 - 04/06/12 at 15:51:30
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Yes, white can avoid the VH, but he should not do so as his chances there are very good.
  
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Re: Von hennig schara gambit
Reply #4 - 03/05/12 at 18:45:20
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MNb wrote on 03/05/12 at 16:57:19:
snakebite wrote on 03/05/12 at 10:49:08:
Can this gambit be avoided by playing 1 d4 d5  2 c4 e6  3 Nf3 c5  4 cxd5 cxd4  5 Nxd4?  In this case is there a transposition into the Tarrasch or does black have better options?

Not necessarily better,  but yes, other options. The three most important are the Semi-Tarrasch (3...Nf6 4.Nc3 c5), the Noteboom (3...c6) and the Ragozin/Manhattan (3...Nf6 and 4...Bb4).


Well 4...cxd4 is pretty bad after 3.Nf3 - black should not play that at all. So he has to use the other options. The most important in my view is the QGD.
  
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Re: Von hennig schara gambit
Reply #3 - 03/05/12 at 16:57:19
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snakebite wrote on 03/05/12 at 10:49:08:
Can this gambit be avoided by playing 1 d4 d5  2 c4 e6  3 Nf3 c5  4 cxd5 cxd4  5 Nxd4?  In this case is there a transposition into the Tarrasch or does black have better options?

Not necessarily better,  but yes, other options. The three most important are the Semi-Tarrasch (3...Nf6 4.Nc3 c5), the Noteboom (3...c6) and the Ragozin/Manhattan (3...Nf6 and 4...Bb4).
  
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