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Reply #11 - 12/28/12 at 21:09:25
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9...Ne7 - what else - very human - otherwise you just lose the d5-pawn
  
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Re: Staunton Main Line
Reply #10 - 12/28/12 at 20:13:43
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brabo wrote on 12/28/12 at 04:05:30:

On my blog you can also find some other ideas in the sideslines.
I don't know who your opponents usual are but i know in the region where I live, my blog is followed.




1. d4 f5 2. e4 fxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Nc6 5. Nh3 d5  6. Bxf6 Bxh3! 7. Qh5+ g6 8. Qxh3! exf6 9. Qe6+ Ne7!!??!  ( A very rare move, almost inhuman!) 10. f3 exf3 11. Bb5+!!??!!  (fascinating!) c6 12. O-O!!?!? (I put all those rare signs to indicate that these moves do not think you can think of an opponent in a game alive)

12... Qd7!
  (12...cxb5? 13. Qxf6 Rg8 14. Rxf3 with attack)

13. Qxf6 O-O-O!!

(13...Rg8 14.Rxf3 and: 14...cxb5? or 14...0-0-0! traspose)

14. Rxf3! Ng8!!??!! (This just makes Houdini program, but objectively is the best; 14... Rg8 {Is the human move} 15. Bd3 with
equal game but complex)


15. Qxf8! Rxf8 16. Rxf8+ Kc7 17. Raf1 {The problem
is to get the black Knight and the Rook of the eighth row and only achieved
with checks Queen that protect the Rook "h8"}


Qg4! 18.R8f7+ Kd6


(18...Kb6 19.R1f4 =)

19. R1f4 Qe6 20. Bd3

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Amazing line, no?    Smiley Shocked

5.Nh3!?  : My summary would be that you can play by both sides, but especially the black must know it well.



  
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Re: Staunton Main Line
Reply #9 - 12/28/12 at 08:23:16
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MNb wrote on 12/28/12 at 03:31:41:
Diemerlin wrote on 12/27/12 at 13:45:27:
1. d4 f5 2. e4 fxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Nc6 5. Nh3  d5

Schwarz (1964) gives 5.Nge2 d5 6.Bxf6 exf6 7.Nf4 Bf5 8.Nfxd5 Bd6 as equal.


9.h4!? (whit idea Ce3 and h5 winning the black king pawn) h5! (Stopping the threat radically) 10.Bb5
(attempting discourage black 0-0-0) Bg6 (protecting the pawn "h" with idea 0-0) 11.Qe2 0-0 12.0-0-0 

and the game is exciting and full of life on both sides (+0.12 Houdini)
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Re: Staunton Main Line
Reply #8 - 12/28/12 at 04:05:30
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On my blog you can also find some other ideas in the sideslines.
I don't know who your opponents usual are but i know in the region where I live, my blog is followed.
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Re: Staunton Main Line
Reply #7 - 12/28/12 at 03:31:41
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Diemerlin wrote on 12/27/12 at 13:45:27:
5...d5 (the latter the more normal, but against this movement is specially designed 5.Ch3!?  xCf4 xd5)

Schwarz (1964) gives 5.Nge2 d5 6.Bxf6 exf6 7.Nf4 Bf5 8.Nfxd5 Bd6 as equal.
  

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Re: STAUNTON MAIN LINE
Reply #6 - 12/27/12 at 22:40:06
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brabo wrote on 12/27/12 at 16:57:25:
Please have a look at my blog: http://schaken-brabo.blogspot.be/2012/03/de-boemerang.html
where i discussed this sideline.


Thanks for starting the link, Very interesting games (and analysis) 
 I think there is an improvement on move 8.

I share my analysis:


"STAUNTON VAR. KOUATLY"

1. d4 f5 2. e4 fxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Nc6 5. Nh3  d5

(5... e5 6. d5 +/=)

(5... e6 6. Nxe4 Be7 7. Nxf6+!!N {Houdini} (7. Bxf6 ?! Bxf6 8. c3 O-O 9. f4  Kouatly,B (2473)-Froeyman,H (2308)/Clichy FRA 2004/The Week in Chess)
7... Bxf6 8. Qh5+ g6 9. Qh6)

(5... d6 6. Nf4( with idea 7.Axf6 y 8.Dh5+ taking the position of Knight in -f4)} Bf5 7. Bxf6 exf6 8. Bb5 +/=)

6. Bxf6  Bxh3! Fantastic move, but it is still a concession to the imminent Nf4. (6... exf6 7. Nf4! g6 8. Nfxd5 Bg7 9. Nb5 O-O 10. Ndxc7 Rb8 11. h4 a6 12. Bc4+ Kh8  13. h5 and I like the white)

7.Qh5+ g6 8. Qxh3! (not 8.Qxd5?!)} exf6 9. Qe6+ Be7 10. Bb5 Qd6 11. Qxd6 Bxd6
12. Nxd5 Kf7 13. Bxc6 bxc6 14. Ne3 f5
(14... Rab8 15. Nc4)

15. Ke2 Rhe8 16. Nc4
{+ 0.12} Houdini

Summary: It is true that the position is equal (almost), but the black has had to overcome many obstacles to get here.

Are they as prepared our adversaries?

  
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Re: STAUNTON MAIN LINE
Reply #5 - 12/27/12 at 16:57:25
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Please have a look at my blog: http://schaken-brabo.blogspot.be/2012/03/de-boemerang.html
where i discussed this sideline.
  
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Re: STAUNTON MAIN LINE
Reply #4 - 12/27/12 at 15:19:07
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Matemax wrote on 12/27/12 at 14:50:12:
Diemerlin wrote on 12/27/12 at 13:45:27:
[quote author=42416D0F0 link=1356608166/1#1 date=1356614964]
About the game:
1. d4 f5 2. e4 fxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Nc6 5. Nh3 g6 6. Bc4?!

Anything wrong with 5...d5?



5...e6;
5...d6;
5...d5 (the latter the more normal, but against this movement is specially designed 5.Ch3!?  xCf4 xd5)

The black pawn "d5" can become a target after 6.Cf4

Now I'm at home, when I will come and discuss variants, but in any case seems a very interesting line

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Re: STAUNTON MAIN LINE
Reply #3 - 12/27/12 at 14:50:12
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Diemerlin wrote on 12/27/12 at 13:45:27:
[quote author=42416D0F0 link=1356608166/1#1 date=1356614964]
About the game:
1. d4 f5 2. e4 fxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Nc6 5. Nh3 g6 6. Bc4?!

Anything wrong with 5...d5?
  
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Re: STAUNTON MAIN LINE
Reply #2 - 12/27/12 at 13:45:27
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MNb wrote on 12/27/12 at 13:29:24:
Taimanov (1980) gives 7...Na5 and 7...d5 8.Bxf6 edf6 9.Bxd5 Bxh3 10.gxh3 f5 as improvements - according to him Black is better.


About the game:
1. d4 f5 2. e4 fxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Nc6 5. Nh3 g6 6. Bc4?!

6.d5! Ne5 7.d6!!?? (Houdini)  and the pawn seems more than compensated. So I think the variant 5...g6 not critical.

5...e6; 5...d6; 5...d5 (the latter the more normal, but against this movement is specially designed 5.Ch3!?  xCf4 xd5)
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Re: STAUNTON MAIN LINE
Reply #1 - 12/27/12 at 13:29:24
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Taimanov (1980) gives 7...Na5 and 7...d5 8.Bxf6 edf6 9.Bxd5 Bxh3 10.gxh3 f5 as improvements - according to him Black is better.
  

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Staunton Main Line
12/27/12 at 11:36:06
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First of all sorry for my english, I write from Spain

With the help of the program I discovered this movement Houdini:

1. d4 f5 2. e4 fxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Nc6! (other plays seem much weaker) 5. Nh3!

ADVANTAGES:
1- passes "the word" to black, now must define its plan
2- Supports the-g5-bishop, important in some lines
3- The Knight goes to where controlled-f4 d5.

He has played very little but of course not new

example: 

Shtyrov, A. vs. Cheremisin, Felix (Moscow 1965)

1. d4 f5 2. e4 fxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Nc6 5. Nh3 g6 6. Bc4  (6.d5 made in Houdini and follow 7.d6!!?? + Houdini) Bg7 7. O-O e6 8. d5 Ne5 9. Bb3 exd5 10. Bxf6 Bxf6 11. Qxd5 c6 12. Qd6 Nf7 13. Bxf7+ Kxf7 14. Nxe4 Qe7 15. Rfe1 Kg7 16. Re3 Re8 17. Nxf6 1-0

  (5...d5; 5...d6; 5...e6  we discuss in the thread) 
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