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Re: C55: Max Lange Gambit 10.Nd2 instead of 10.Na3
Reply #5 - 02/13/14 at 22:15:25
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The idea of 10.Na3 is that White could develop his queen on d2 which would not been possible if the knight was on d2
  
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Re: C55: Max Lange Gambit 10.Nd2 instead of 10.Na3
Reply #4 - 02/03/14 at 11:28:36
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I agree that it doesn't look like a bad move (and I don't know much theory in this line), but what's the idea?  Considering that White always has to watch out for ...Qc5 tricks winning the c4-bishop, where is the knight going that he wouldn't normally go after 10.Na3?  Does 10.Nd2 somehow make 10...Rg8 much less attractive? 

And anyway, I would have thought that 9...Qe7 10.Na3 Be6 is the main line, which 10.Nd2 will just transpose to (unless Black has something stronger here than 10...Be6, which he might).
  
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Re: C55: Max Lange Gambit 10.Nd2 instead of 10.Na3
Reply #3 - 02/03/14 at 11:19:03
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kevinfat wrote on 02/02/14 at 11:15:07:
All the resources on the following line consider 10.Na3 best
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.0-0 Nf6 5.d4 Bxd4 6.Nxd4 Nxd4 7.f4 d6 8.fxe5 dxe5 9.Bg5 Qe7 10.Na3

I have yet to find anything that gives indepth analysis of 10.Nd2. It leaves the a-pawn unobstructed for possible queenside expansion. So why is 10.Nd2 bad?


10.Nd2 is simply not a bad move. Black may play 10...Ne6 with 11.Bxf6 gxf6 12.Qf3 to follow. Now Black can play the knight back to f4 when he provokes a weakening of white's kingside: 12...Nf4 13.g3 Rg8 14.Kh1 Bg4 15.Qf2 Ne6 16.Qf6 -  White gets his pawn back and the position should be around equal.
  
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Re: C55: Max Lange Gambit 10.Nd2 instead of 10.Na3
Reply #2 - 02/03/14 at 02:29:01
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ErictheRed wrote on 02/02/14 at 15:23:43:
What's the idea, and why does it not just transpose if Black plays the natural 10...Be6 11.c3 Bxc4 12.Nxc4?  Black might have better, but that's the first question to answer.


Well normally 10..Be6 is not the recommended move against
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.0-0 Nf6 5.d4 Bxd4 6.Nxd4 Nxd4 7.f4 d6 8.fxe5 dxe5 9.Bg5 Qe7 10.Na3
As I understand the mysterious rook move 10..Rg8 is considered strongest.
  
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Re: C55: Max Lange Gambit 10.Nd2 instead of 10.Na3
Reply #1 - 02/02/14 at 15:23:43
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What's the idea, and why does it not just transpose if Black plays the natural 10...Be6 11.c3 Bxc4 12.Nxc4?  Black might have better, but that's the first question to answer.
  
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C55: Max Lange Gambit 10.Nd2 instead of 10.Na3
02/02/14 at 11:15:07
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All the resources on the following line consider 10.Na3 best
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.0-0 Nf6 5.d4 Bxd4 6.Nxd4 Nxd4 7.f4 d6 8.fxe5 dxe5 9.Bg5 Qe7 10.Na3

I have yet to find anything that gives indepth analysis of 10.Nd2. It leaves the a-pawn unobstructed for possible queenside expansion. So why is 10.Nd2 bad?
  
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