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Re: C54: Giuoco Piano for black
Reply #9 - 03/04/14 at 19:52:59
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In all of the games that I've found reaching the position at move 8, White has always preferred either 8. Bb3 or 8. O-O. Black then almost always plays .. d6 or .. d5. Some of these have been GM v GM encounters, Bologan v Huebner from 1994 being one of the earliest.

I do not see in what way 8. h3 prevents or discourages 8. .. d5, so it must be a candidate move. Playing 8. .. h6 isn't necessary to prevent Bg5 while the Knight is still on d2.
  
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Re: C54: Giuoco Piano for black
Reply #8 - 03/04/14 at 19:09:38
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Menake Halonot wrote on 03/03/14 at 19:41:38:
You can play 9...d5


Quite.  And in the move order given it’s not clear to me why Black needs to play ... h6.  Why not 8 ... d5 instead?

TBH, I’m not whatever the problem is that the OP sees.
  

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Re: C54: Giuoco Piano for black
Reply #7 - 03/03/14 at 19:41:38
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chandrashekharkoravi wrote on 03/01/14 at 14:33:23:
Can some one please tell me how to play this line with black..White has all sorts of plans..How can we play with black So can we play with black

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Note: edited to correct the spelling of the opening in the title, and to provide an ECO code for the opening. ~SF March 1st, 2014


You can play 9...d5
  
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Re: C54: Giuoco Piano for black
Reply #6 - 03/02/14 at 16:58:46
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chandrashekharkoravi wrote on 03/02/14 at 16:00:04:
... he is playing Nd2 Nf1 followed by g4 or Ng3


This is not really effective if Black hasn´t spent time on ...a6 and ...Ba7 since now he can play in the centre with ...d5.
  
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Re: C54: Giuoco Piano for black
Reply #5 - 03/02/14 at 16:00:04
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Yes this might be but white is not castling early he is playing Nd2 Nf1 followed by g4 or Ng3
  
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Re: Guico Piano for black
Reply #4 - 03/01/14 at 21:03:19
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Here is a correspondence game of mine, as a second player:


5...0-0, 6...d6, 7...Ne7, 8...Ng6 is a good plan for black which was recommended by Larry Kaufman in his book "The Kaufman Repertoire For Black & White", 2012.  Wink
  
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Re: Guico Piano for black
Reply #3 - 03/01/14 at 16:12:07
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chandrashekharkoravi wrote on 03/01/14 at 15:37:15:
u meant plan with a5??? Is there something better than that?


I meant to instead of 5...a6 play 5...0-0 and aim to play d7-d5.
  

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Re: Guico Piano for black
Reply #2 - 03/01/14 at 15:37:15
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u meant plan with a5??? Is there something better than that?
  
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Re: Guico Piano for black
Reply #1 - 03/01/14 at 15:04:06
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I would suggest to deviate on move five and play 5... 0-0 (aiming for a quick d5) as advocated by Lysyj and Ovetchkin in their "The Open Games for Black".   
  

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C54: Giuoco Piano for black
03/01/14 at 14:33:23
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Can some one please tell me how to play this line with black..White has all sorts of plans..How can we play with black So can we play with black

Edited:
Note: edited to correct the spelling of the opening in the title, and to provide an ECO code for the opening. ~SF March 1st, 2014
« Last Edit: 03/01/14 at 22:13:33 by Smyslov_Fan »  
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