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Re: Topalov and Vachier-Lagrave caught cheating
Reply #20 - 11/12/15 at 13:40:04
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Not only that, they were asked their opinions by the tournament organizers. It was an attempt to have the players give live commentary. There's a reason that no player and no official complained.
  
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Re: Topalov and Vachier-Lagrave caught cheating
Reply #19 - 11/12/15 at 10:51:49
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Guys, it was a joke !

You bet that Topalov has his own opinions, and MVL was joking that this is a bad line, as he has used it himself on a couple of occasions.

It's not cheating : it's joking  Smiley
  
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Re: Topalov and Vachier-Lagrave caught cheating
Reply #18 - 11/12/15 at 09:55:06
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I agree that this shouldn't be happening but calling it 'the worst kind of cheating' is completely over the top.

The conversation was basically:
Topalov: "Is this a good line"
MVL: "No"
Topalov: "Oh s**t"
<Topalov leaves>

Is that wrong? Yes. It is worse than seeking computer assitance? No. Worse than pre-arranging results? No. Worse than intentionally distracting the opponent at a critical moment? No. Lying about not touching a piece? No. I could go on...

In this case it would be better for the organisers to have a quiet word with the players and prevent more than 1 person in the confessional at one time in future. Calling for Topalov to be dragged over the coals is a crazy over-reaction, possibly based on a general dislike many people have for him since Elista.
  
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Reply #17 - 11/12/15 at 07:36:07
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TonyRo wrote on 11/12/15 at 05:41:36:
I don't know if I'm missing more content than the few seconds of the confessional I saw, but I now couldn't care less about this.


Yes, you must be. And yes you should care a lot!

Not sure what video you are looking at but Topalov was seeking the opinion of MVL on a key opening position he had on the board in which MVL was responsible for the novelty. You probably need to play through the whole thing for the before and after.

This is the worst kind of cheating in chess. I very much hope you are not condoning cheating by saying you couldnt care less about it. At the moment we have FIDE up in arms with silly anti-computer regulations but what affects players much more is this type of cheating.
  
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Reply #16 - 11/12/15 at 05:41:36
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I don't know if I'm missing more content than the few seconds of the confessional I saw, but I now couldn't care less about this.
  
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Reply #15 - 11/11/15 at 21:17:26
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BenkoFan wrote on 11/11/15 at 11:01:01:
Danailov has the afront to bring up the Kramnik incident again on twitter now, using the Russian doping story as an excuse.

This story is far more serious since there is actual video evidence. Amazing character.


I dont want to get into "Toiletgate" again, we did have a brilliant thread on it at the time though if you do a search..
  
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Re: Topalov and Vachier-Lagrave caught cheating
Reply #14 - 11/11/15 at 21:03:39
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dfan wrote on 11/11/15 at 17:30:06:
ITonyRo wrote on 11/11/15 at 16:29:36:
I have not been able to track down the video - does anyone know exactly what they were saying and at what point in the game they spoke?

It happens at around 39:30 of this video. There is some useful context starting at 36:30.

I think that most of the people in the chess world that are concerned about it are present in this thread.


If that was the case it would be a very sad day for chess indeed. Fortunately people who care about the game are still in abundance. Very silly comment.
  
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Re: Topalov and Vachier-Lagrave caught cheating
Reply #13 - 11/11/15 at 17:30:06
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ITonyRo wrote on 11/11/15 at 16:29:36:
I have not been able to track down the video - does anyone know exactly what they were saying and at what point in the game they spoke?

It happens at around 39:30 of this video. There is some useful context starting at 36:30.

I think that most of the people in the chess world that are concerned about it are present in this thread.
  
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Re: Topalov and Vachier-Lagrave caught cheating
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I have not been able to track down the video - does anyone know exactly what they were saying and at what point in the game they spoke?
  
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Re: Topalov and Vachier-Lagrave caught cheating
Reply #11 - 11/11/15 at 11:01:01
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Danailov has the afront to bring up the Kramnik incident again on twitter now, using the Russian doping story as an excuse.

This story is far more serious since there is actual video evidence. Amazing character.
  
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Re: Topalov and Vachier-Lagrave caught cheating
Reply #10 - 10/25/15 at 23:54:55
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ReneDescartes wrote on 10/12/15 at 03:45:31:
Overruled by space aliens.

Smiley I heard that story I think. If that was the least we had to worry about with this character I'd be happy!
  
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Overruled by space aliens.
  
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Re: Topalov and Vachier-Lagrave caught cheating
Reply #8 - 10/10/15 at 19:51:06
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TonyRo wrote on 10/09/15 at 20:23:31:
Shocker. That's time you're never getting back man!


Smiley I have received responses from FIDE in the past so I wouldnt say its impossible but its true, I'm not holding my breath.

That said, if they dont respond it is pretty damning, although with such a shining character as president we shouldn't be surprised I suppose.
  
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Re: Topalov and Vachier-Lagrave caught cheating
Reply #7 - 10/09/15 at 20:23:31
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Shocker. That's time you're never getting back man!
  
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Re: Topalov and Vachier-Lagrave caught cheating
Reply #6 - 10/09/15 at 20:18:06
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BenkoFan wrote on 10/06/15 at 11:43:01:
what did FIDE say?


I have not received any response yet  Sad
  
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