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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #39 - 06/26/21 at 22:08:49
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Hello

Noticed a recent game on the Sergeev variation, Topalov-Bauer 1/2 which appears to be a good advertising to Bauer's book,, "The Modernized Alekhine" (which as far as I know will come out next week).

With a different move order, the game "revisited" some variations we have discussed here in the past, namely

i) 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.c4 Nb6 4.d4 d6 5.f4 g6 6.Nc3 Bg7 7.Be3 Be6 8.Rc1 0–0 9.b3 dxe5 10.fxe5 c5 11.d5 Bf5 12.Be2 Na6 13.Nf3 Nd7

as far as I see , the latest in this blog was the assessment (by Kam) given by 14.Bf4 Qc7 15.Nb5 Qa5+ 16.Qd2 Qxd2+ 17.Kxd2±

Bauer played 14...Qb8 avoiding 15.Nb5 and after 15.d6 the game become "a normal game" in this variation
It might be worth analising it

The move order in the game was different; it started with 8.b3 0-0 9.Be2 dxe5 10.fxe5 c5 11.d5 Bc8 12.Rc1 Na6 13.Nf3

  
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4PA Sergeev Variation, 8.Rc1 O-O 9.b3 Na6 10.Be2 c
Reply #38 - 09/01/20 at 14:29:34
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Investigation of the Alekhine’s Defence, 4PA Sergeev Variation involving 8.Rc1 O-O  9.b3 Na6
10.Be2 c5  11.d5 Bc8

1.e4 Nf6  2.e5 Nd5  3.c4 Nb6  4.d4 d6  5.f4 g6  6.Nc3 Bg7  7.Be3 Be6  8.Rc1 O-O 9.b3 Na6 (9…. dxe5 has previously been extensively analysed) 10.Be2 c5  11.d5 (The continuation 11.dxc5 Nxc5 was discussed in #26 of this thread)  11….Bc8

(11….Bf5 seems more aggressive, but white can virtually force a knight for bishop exchange and burden black with a lousy king side pawn structure. 12.Nf3 Nd7  13.Nh4 dxe5  14.Nxf5 gxf5  15.fxe5 Nxe5  16.O-O Qd7  17.Qc2 Ng4  18.Bxg4 fxg4 19.Ne4 ±  White has loads of space and the black knight is locked in on the edge of the board.)

12.Nf3 Nd7 (Final move mentioned by Keano, who advocates “And Black can try to argue that White has over-extended. My engine is suggesting White simply give up a pawn here for comp. Not sure how many OTB players would go for that.” reply #6 of this thread, 4-4-2016)

13.O-O
(a)13.exd6 exd6  14.O-O Re8  15.Bd2 Nf6 =,
(b) 13.e6?! (Keano’s suggestion?) 13….fxe6  14.dxe6  Nf6  15.O-O Bxe6  16.Ng5 Bf5 17.g4 Bd7  18.a3 Nc7  19.f5 gxf5 gxf5 h6  21.Nh3 Qc8  22.Qd3 Nfe8 Adv Bl,White has insufficient compensation for the pawn.
13…. dxe5  14.fxe5 Nxe5 15.Nb5!?

(15.Qd2 This queen move has the uncanny reputation of refuting many Sergeev variations, but black has equality in this continuation  15….Ng4!?  16.Bg5 h6  17.Bh4 g5  18.Be1 f5  19.h3 Ne5  20.Bf2 Bd7  21.Nb5 Ng6  22.Ne1 e5  23.dxe6 Bxe6  24.Nd3 Ne5=) 

15…. Bd7  16.Qd2 Nc7 (Time to centralise the knight) 17.Bxc5 Bxb5  18.cxb5 Qxd5  19.Qe3 Ng4  20.Qxe7 Ne6  21.Rfd1 Qh5  22.h3 Rae8  23.hxg4 Rxe7  24.gxh5 Nxc5  25.Rxc5 Rxe2 = The game is fairly even.

The line involving 8.Rc1 O-O  9.b3 Na6  10.Be2 c5  11.d5 Bc8 has not been significantly analysed until now. The seemingly
very playable line possibly could be the best line against the 8.Rc1 variation of the 4PA Sergeev variation. Black would also have to be prepared against the line 11.dxc5 Nxc5, which arguably is more critical, but still playable for black. I certainly welcome any comments.
  
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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #37 - 07/08/20 at 13:41:17
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Ametanoitos wrote on 07/06/20 at 13:01:35:
1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. d4 d6 4. c4 Nb6 5. f4 dxe5 6. fxe5 Nc6 7. Be3 Bf5 8. Nf3 e6 9. Nc3 Be7 10. Be2 O-O 11. O-O f6 12. exf6 Bxf6 13. Qd2

And here:

-> 13...h6!? with the move 14...Qe8 and 15...Rd8 coming next is a reasonable new idea

-> 13...Qe7 14. Rad1 Rad8 15. Kh1 (15. Qc1 e51)
15...Bg4!? 16.Ne4 Bxf3 17. Nxf6+ Rxf6 18. gxf3

is better for White according to the engines, but I wouldn't be surprised if Black was OK. I wouldn't feel so comfortable with White here with my kingside structure compromised and the knights slowly coming towards me...

What do you think?

Is there an alternative on the above?


The first line I like for Black. After 13...Qe8 I think 14. Bg5 is a bit better for White so preceding Qe8 with h6 makes sense. Also, I do see 13...Qd7, Rad8, Qf7, Qg6 in Blitz games occasionally which is similar but wastes a tempo in comparison to your variation. I will have a closer look at this line but it may take a while to figure out which setup is the most promising for White.

The second suggestion I like for White. I would probably play b3 and then continue with f4 and Bf3 or by piling up heavy pieces on the g-file. I don't think it is so easy for Black to activate the knights. But a sense of danger has never been one of my strong points.
  
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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #36 - 07/06/20 at 13:01:35
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1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. d4 d6 4. c4 Nb6 5. f4 dxe5 6. fxe5 Nc6 7. Be3 Bf5 8. Nf3 e6 9. Nc3 Be7 10. Be2 O-O 11. O-O f6 12. exf6 Bxf6 13. Qd2

And here:

-> 13...h6!? with the move 14...Qe8 and 15...Rd8 coming next is a reasonable new idea

-> 13...Qe7 14. Rad1 Rad8 15. Kh1 (15. Qc1 e51)
15...Bg4!? 16.Ne4 Bxf3 17. Nxf6+ Rxf6 18. gxf3

is better for White according to the engines, but I wouldn't be surprised if Black was OK. I wouldn't feel so comfortable with White here with my kingside structure compromised and the knights slowly coming towards me...

What do you think?

Is there an alternative on the above?
  
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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #35 - 06/15/20 at 13:11:14
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Kam, concerning

i) 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.c4 Nb6 4.d4 d6 5.f4 g6 6.Nc3 Bg7 7.Be3 Be6 8.Rc1 0–0 9.b3 dxe5 10.fxe5 c5 11.d5 Bf5 12.Be2 Na6 13.Nf3

13…. Bg4!? 14.Nd2 Bxe2 15.Qxe2 Bxe5 16.Bh6 Bg7 17.Bxg7 Kxg7 18.0–0 Nc8 19.Rce1 Qa5 20.Qe5+ f6 21.Qe3 Nb4 22.Nde4 Nc2 23.Qxc5 Qxc5+ 24.Nxc5 Nxe1 25.Rxe1 Kf7 26.Nxb7 a5 27.c5 Ra7 28.c6 Rxb7 29.cxb7 Nd6 30.Ne4 Nxb7 Very slight advantage white. 

An interesting endgame with unbalanced pawn structures has eventuated. White is required to play accurately in order to maintain the slight advantage. Line 4, Ig question 2.;

lg: I dont understand 19...Qa5? After 20.Nde4 White appears much better. Also, Black's move puts the Queen away from the kingside which appears to be side where things are going to happen
why not 19...Nd6 as a natural follow up to Nc8, and followed up by Qd7, Rae8, e6 etc.?

ii) 13...Nd7 This move seems to have a key drawback as follows: 14.Bf4 Qc7 15.Nb5 Qa5+ 16.Qd2 Qxd2+ 17.Kxd2± Line 5, Ig question 3.]

lg: you are probably right but this line does not appear to be worse than other lines here discussed here;

you can try 17...e6 !? (followed by an adequate f7)
after 18.Nd6 (the engine move but others appear to be Ok for Black) we may have
a) 18...Bg4 19.Nxb7 Rab8 20.Na5 (20.Nd6 exd5 21.cxd5 Nb4) Bxf3 21.gxf3
b) 18...f6!? 19 Be3!? (19.Nxf5 gxf5 20.exf6 Nxf6; 19.exf6?! Nxf6 20.Nxf5? Ne4+) exd5 20.cxd5 Nb6
I guess White is better, but as I said before, not worse than in many othe rlines discussed in this thread
also, after 14...Qc7 15.0-0 (d6!?) Nxe5 16.Kh1 (g4 !?) is worth looking at
  
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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #34 - 06/10/20 at 16:05:32
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tp2205 and Tony: thanks
i)
> It seems that White has a choice here between the engine's favorite  12.Qe1 Nb4 13.Rd1 Nc2 14.Qd2 Nxe3 15.Qxe3 (I don't understand yet why this line is given as best) 12. a4 and what I probably would play 12.a3 and 13. b4. You would have to at least come up with solutions to all three of these moves which may be difficult.

I have seen the “engines” evolution concerning this line in the past few years, and in fact noticed, that besides 12.Kh1 and 12.Qd2 (seldom played) these are the 3 moves “liked more” by the engines. Cannot understand either why the engines like 12.Qe1 but it is frequently played (even immediately after 11…f6 which is refuted by 12.d5).
However, recent engines favour 12.a4 a5 13.Qe1 (in place of the “old” but also reasonably good 13.Qb3). The point is that 13…Nb4 (as in the line without a4 a5 inserted) is bad here since the a5 pawn is hanging. The line, usually, goes 13…Bb4 14.Qg3 f6 (or f6 and then Bb4). The interest of this line is that there are two recent ICCF games – Black lost (with players with ELO over 2400, and same player playing Black – Heinz Polsterer). I thought I would never see it, but I was fairly surprised by seeing a player with a very good ELO playing this line. Funny is that a few months ago I left two engines playing variants on this line, and a few games have the same moves as Polsterer’s games until move 24. Not sure, however, the engines moves are better and they save the line (in fact, I think they don’t)
I agree that 12.a3 needs to be analysed well but since I cant come up with anything against 12.a4 …

ii)
> Your analysis extends what I have. I also focussed on 23...Qd7 but since my original goal (get an easy to remember repertoire for my self against the Aljechin), which has since morphed into turning it into a chessable course does not really go well with such deep analysis I am currently looking elsewhere

Agree !!

iii) Concerning 9…Be7, I agree that 15.Kh1 first might be better but does this refute the line?? In fact, another more recent game by H. Polsterer goes 15.Kh1 h6 16.h3 Kh8 (with the slow regrouping that Tony was saying) but apparently, Back was never losing, or am I wrong? Look at also at recent games by Pavlov (ElO over 2400 also) which consistently has been playing the Alekhine in ICCF games.
I also guess that 13.b3 (instead of Qd2) is worth looking at

iv)
>I am making a few Alekhine theory vids for my YouTube channel, I'll try to remember to post them around here somewhere when they go up.

Looking forward to watching this

Two side notes:
v) I guess, the Alekhine “addicts” were pleased by seeing Magnus playing the Alekhine, but somehow I was a bit disappointed by Caruana not going to the main line 4.Nf3. I wanted to see whether Magnus would keep playing the Kengis as he played against Firouza the week before in 5 minute games.
Also, of interest to me, was the fact that Dubov played h6 and not dxe5 in the Alburt line

v) FYI information, Thinkers Publishing are advertising a “Modernized Alekhine” by Christian Bauer (which has written recently, but not still out as far as I know, a “Modernized” 1.e4 Nc6!). This looks interesting – Any forecasts?
  
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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #33 - 06/10/20 at 03:32:03
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You're probably right - I remember being worried about Kh1 in a few spots I think!  Grin
  
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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #32 - 06/10/20 at 03:06:25
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TonyRo wrote on 06/09/20 at 19:21:43:
I have looked into the 4PA quite a bit in the past and basically my thoughts pretty much echo the groups - it's 9...Be7 or bust. To me 10.Be2 is dangerous and more critical. People seem to try or recommend a lot of quiet strategies as Black, e.g. moves like ...h6, ...Kh8, and ...Bh7, but to me that's way off base. White has all the time in the world with that extra space and will be able to use any quiet regrouping phase more efficiently than Black. I looked at the (in my opinion) more logical 10...O-O 11.O-O f6 12.exf6 Bxf6 13.Qd2 Qe7 14.Rad1 Rad8 15.Qc1 e5!? back when it was basically unplayed and thought it might be best. Black typically will end up down a pawn but active and I think many of the resulting positions would be more to an Alekhine players taste than what we have now. Even if that move holds, there are deviations now that are popping up that weren't really moves back when I looked too.  Undecided

I am making a few Alekhine theory vids for my YouTube channel, I'll try to remember to post them around here somewhere when they go up.


I think White can just play 15.Kh1 avoiding the e5 ideas and then 16. Qc1.
  
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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #31 - 06/09/20 at 19:21:43
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I have looked into the 4PA quite a bit in the past and basically my thoughts pretty much echo the groups - it's 9...Be7 or bust. To me 10.Be2 is dangerous and more critical. People seem to try or recommend a lot of quiet strategies as Black, e.g. moves like ...h6, ...Kh8, and ...Bh7, but to me that's way off base. White has all the time in the world with that extra space and will be able to use any quiet regrouping phase more efficiently than Black. I looked at the (in my opinion) more logical 10...O-O 11.O-O f6 12.exf6 Bxf6 13.Qd2 Qe7 14.Rad1 Rad8 15.Qc1 e5!? back when it was basically unplayed and thought it might be best. Black typically will end up down a pawn but active and I think many of the resulting positions would be more to an Alekhine players taste than what we have now. Even if that move holds, there are deviations now that are popping up that weren't really moves back when I looked too.  Undecided

I am making a few Alekhine theory vids for my YouTube channel, I'll try to remember to post them around here somewhere when they go up.
  
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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #30 - 06/09/20 at 18:50:23
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> I spent some time (perhaps a little bit more) looking at 9…Qd7 10.Be2 0-0-0 11.0-0 and now 11…Kb8 (which is a lot better than 11…f6 and better than 9…Bg4) but can’t make it work. Any suggestions proving that I am wrong will be welcome.

It seems that White has a choice here between the engine's favorite  12.Qe1 Nb4 13.Rd1 Nc2 14.Qd2 Nxe3 15.Qxe3 (I don't understand yet why this line is given as best) 12. a4 and what I probably would play 12.a3 and 13. b4. You would have to at least come up with solutions to all three of these moves which may be difficult.

> To be honest I am becoming more convinced that the only line Ok for Black in the 4PA is the main line with 9…Be7 (9…Bg4 might be worth looking at).

Mostly I agree but I think that 9... Be7 10. Be2 gives White a small but lasting advantage. Some of the other lines may be objectively better for White but also more difficult to play well.

> Apparently the Sergev line that is the topic of this thread is a reasonable alternative (at least, based on some recent books).
> However, I also agree that “brabo’s” idea of playing 9.Rc1 is really very good and I am not sure what to suggest.
> Concerning the variation mentioned lately by tp2205 I was “motivated” by his comment (as far as I see this is a line first
> suggested by Tony Ro). This line seems crazy because Black takes the Pawn on h2 (allowing White to attack on the h-file) > a move also favoured by the engines; thus, I looked at this “crazy” line and have also suggested a few “more developing > > alternatives”.

Your analysis extends what I have. I also focussed on 23...Qd7 but since my original goal (get an easy to remember repertoire for my self against the Aljechin), which has since morphed into turning it into a chessable course does not really go well with such deep analysis I am currently looking elsewhere.
  
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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #29 - 06/06/20 at 19:44:25
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I spent some time (perhaps a little bit more) looking at 9…Qd7 10.Be2 0-0-0 11.0-0 and now 11…Kb8 (which is a lot better than 11…f6 and better than 9…Bg4) but can’t make it work. Any suggestions proving that I am wrong will be welcome. Perhaps 9…Qd7 10.Be2 Rd8 with the same idea of pressuring d4 but losing the tension caused by castling on different sides of the board.
To be honest I am becoming more convinced that the only line Ok for Black in the 4PA is the main line with 9…Be7 (9…Bg4 might be worth looking at).
Apparently the Sergev line that is the topic of this thread is a reasonable alternative (at least, based on some recent books). However, I also agree that “brabo’s” idea of playing 9.Rc1 is really very good and I am not sure what to suggest.
Concerning the variation mentioned lately by tp2205 I was “motivated” by his comment (as far as I see this is a line first suggested by Tony Ro). This line seems crazy because Black takes the Pawn on h2 (allowing White to attack on the h-file) a move also favoured by the engines; thus, I looked at this “crazy” line and have also suggested a few “more developing alternatives”. There is a continuation later on that keeps the spirit of this being a crazy line, namely the three moves 23…Qd7, 24…h5 and 26 …a5 followed by a4.
After “11...Bc8 12. Be2 N6d7 13. Nf3 Nxe5 14. Nxe5 ( 14.Bxc5 Nbd7 15.Bd4 Nxf3+ 16.Bxf3 Ne5 ) Bxe5 15. Bxc5 Qc7 16. Bf2 Bxh2 17. Qd2 Bf4 18. Be3 Bg3+ 19. Kf1”
we might wish to look at
i)      Instead of 15…Qc7, an alternative is 15…Nd7 16.Bd4 Bxd4 (perhaps 16…Qc7 intending Bxd4 and Qc5 !? is even better) 17.Qxd4 Qb6 18.Qxb6 and here I think 18…axb6 is better, but not sure Black’s pawn structure on the queenside is Ok
ii)      Instead of 16…Bxh2, the developing 16…Nd7 might be worth looking at
iii)      Instead of 19.Kf1, 19.Kd1 intending Kc2 might also be worth looking at;

After 19.Kf1 we may have 19…Nd7 20.Ne4 Be5 21.c5!?

I think White needs to play this, otherwise Black appears to be Ok
After the developing 19.Rd1 or 19.Re1, Black can play 19…f5 20.Ng5 Nf6 intending Ne4+

21…Nf6
Now, 21…f5 22.Ng5 Nf6 fails to 23.Bc4 (this is possible because White played c5)

22 Nxf6 Bxf6 23 Bf4

If I stopped here, I would say “with pressure” or something similar; There are three possible moves; I will choose the one leading to the weirdest line

23 … Qd7!? intending Qf5

23 …Qd8 looks safer intending Bf5; after 24.g4 e5 !? (Re8) 25.Be3 I guess this interesting to look further

23…e5 !? 24 Be3 (24.dxe6 Be5) also to analize further

After 23…Qd7 24.g4 (to prevent Qf5) Black can play h5 !? [well, if Black has played Bxh2 earlier, why not play this now?] 25.Bf3 (23.gxh5 Qf5 24.Ke1 (24.gxh6 Be5) Qe4 25.Rh2 Rd8 (Bg4 !?) with pressure on d5 but one needs to look at this carefully) Qb5 26.Rc4 the only move to keep White attacking (or looking like it is attacking) in my opinion.

Alternatives are:

26.Be2 Qd7 repeats

26. Kg1 Bxg4 27.Bxg4 hxg4 28.Be3 intending Bd4 (28.Qh2? Bd4+ and Black is winning) Rfd8 29.Bd4 e5 Black appears to be Ok

26.Ke1 Bxg4 27.Bxg4 hxg4 28.Qh2 Rfd8 29.Be5 Qa5+ 30.b4 Qxb4+ 31.Kf1 Bxe5 32.Qxe5 f6 33.Qe6+ Kf8 and after 34. Rh7 (d6; Re1) Black plays Qf4 and draws; after 34.Rh8 Kg7 35 Qxe7+ Kxh8 36.Qf6+ White only gets perpetual

After 26.Rc4 a5 !? (in fact, I don’t see anything else)

Here, 26…Bxg4 27.Bxg4 hxg4 28.Qh2 Rfd8 29.Be5 Bxe5 30 Qxe5 f6 31 Qe6+ and Black has no access to f4 as in the line after 26.Ke1 Bxg4

27. Qc2

Alternatives are:

27.Be2 Rd8

27.Qh2 a4 and White is in trouble

27.gxh5 a4 28. hxg6?! (Qb4; Bd1) axb3 29.axb3 (29.Qh2 ?? threatening mate in one but after 29…Qxc4+ it is white that is mated) Qxb3 and White is in trouble
a4 28.bxa4

After 27.Qc2 Black plays a4 28.bxa4 (28. b4 Bxg4 (28…hxg4? 29.Qh2 Qxc4+ 30.Be2 +-) 29.Bxg4 hxg4 30.Qh2? Qxc4+ -+) Qa6! 29.gxh5 (Kg2!?; Ke1!?) Bf5 30.Be4 Rad8 (Rfd8? 31.hxg6 Rxd5? 32.gxf7 + - compare with 30…Rad8) 31.hxg6 Rxd5 32.gxf7 (32.Qe2 Bg4 33.Qd3 Bh5; 32.Bxf5) Rxf7 33.Qg2+ Bg7 34.Bxd5+ e6 35.Kg1 exd5 threatening Be4 and Black appears to be Ok (35.Rh6 - the engine move – Bd3+ 36.Kg1 Bxc4 37.Rxe6 Bxd5 38.Qxd5 and white has one pawn more; is it enough to win?

There were several unfinished lines in the middle of this analysis and the end is not even conclusive but this line is complicated
From a human point of view, 15…Qc7 and 16…Bxh2 looks risky, anti-positional and I would prefer some suggestions (needed to be analysed) given above; but I was unable to refute this line.
I will try to come back with analysis on Kam's 11…Bf5.
  
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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #28 - 05/14/20 at 16:57:23
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Have you looked already at 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.c4 Nb6 4.d4 d6 5.f4 g6 6.Nc3 Bg7 7.Be3 Be6 8.Rc1 0–0 9.b3 dxe5 10.fxe5 c5 11.d5 Bf5 12.Be2 Na6 13.Bf4?

I also started looking at this line again after the CC game and my impression is that White should delay Nf3 in this line as long as possible. Now both Bg4 and Nd7 (14.g4) are prevented which leaves 13 ...Qb8 14.Nf3 and if now Bg4 it looks as if 15. d6 is good for White.

PS. I am looking at these lines from White's point of view and for me the critical (= not sure what I should do against it) line is 11...Bc8 12. Be2 N6d7 13. Nf3 Nxe5 14. Nxe5 ( 14.Bxc5 Nbd7 15.Bd4 Nxf3+ 16.Bxf3 Ne5 ) Bxe5 15. Bxc5 Qc7 16. Bf2 Bxh2 17. Qd2 Bf4 18. Be3 Bg3+ 19. Kf1 where White has compensation but where I am struggling to find more than that.
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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #27 - 05/14/20 at 12:21:47
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Summary of Moves Related to the Ig Questions 2,3 and 1:

1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.c4 Nb6 4.d4 d6 5.f4 g6 6.Nc3 Bg7 7.Be3 Be6 8.Rc1 0–0 9.b3 dxe5 10.fxe5 c5 11.d5 Bf5 12.Be2 Na6 13.Nf3 Qb8

13…. Bg4!?
Proposed by Ig and it seems very promising.
14.Nd2 (14.Bf4?! Bxf3 15.Bxf3 Nd7 16.d6 Nb4 17.a3 Nc6 18.Bg5 h6 19.Bxc6 hxg5 20.Bxb7 Rb8 21.Bc6 Nxe5 22.Ba4 Qxd6 23.Qxd6 exd6 slight advantage black)

14...Bxe2 15.Qxe2 Bxe5 16.Bh6 Bg7 17.Bxg7 Kxg7 18.0–0 Nc8 19.Rce1 Qa5 20.Qe5+ f6 21.Qe3 Nb4 22.Nde4 Nc2 23.Qxc5 Qxc5+ 24.Nxc5 Nxe1 25.Rxe1 Kf7 26.Nxb7 a5 27.c5 Ra7 28.c6 Rxb7 29.cxb7 Nd6 30.Ne4 Nxb7 Very slight advantage white. 

An interesting endgame with unbalanced pawn structures has eventuated. White is required to play accurately in order to maintain the slight advantage. Line 4, Ig question 2.;

13...Nd7 This move seems to have a key drawback as follows: 14.Bf4 Qc7 15.Nb5 Qa5+ 16.Qd2 Qxd2+ 17.Kxd2± Line 5, Ig question 3.]

14.h3!? The prophylactic move was proposed by TonyRo. 14...Bxe5 15.Nxe5 Qxe5 16.Qd2 Qg3+

[16...Rad8 17.0–0 Bxh3 18.Rce1 Bc8 19.Bf3 Qh8 20.Ne4 Nd7 21.Bg5 f6 22.d6 e6 23.Bf4 h5 24.Nc3 Ndb8 Very slight advantage white.  White has a strong initiative, but black has an extra two pawns and good chances to unravel. Line 6, Ig question 1.]

17.Kf1 Qe5 18.Kf2 Nc8 19.Rhe1 Qb8 20.Bg5 f6
21.Bf4 Nd6 22.Kg1 Qd8 Very slight advantage white. Black has an extra pawn. Line 7, Ig question 1.


Ig Questions 2,3 and 1.


2) Both 13...Nd7 and 13...Bg4 appear to be better; I am not saying that these "improvements", if they are, make the line ok for Black
Kam: The move 13…. Bg4 looks very promising (Line 4). I have looked at two possible lines against this system and black seems at least okay.
The move 13…. Nd7 seems to have some serious problems in the critical line as mentioned in Q3.

3) After 13...Nd7 14.Bf4 Qc7 !? 15.Nb5 Qa5+ Black appears to hold; however, both 15.d6 and 15.0-0 seem to be better.
The critical line seems to be 13...Nd7 14.Bf4 Qc7 !? 15.Nb5 Qa5+ 16.Qd2!? Qxd2 17.Kxd2 and white has a significant advantage. The black king bishop and the two knights have very restricted mobility. (Line 5). Black seems okay against 15.d6 and 15.O-O.

1) Is 13...Qb8 the best move?      
Kam:
     The viability of the 13…. Qb8 system is currently under review. Two improvements against the 14.h3 system have been found and they will be further discussed in a later post (Line 6 and line 7).


  
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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #26 - 05/14/20 at 12:16:48
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Summary of Moves Related to the Ig Questions 6,5 and 4:
1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.c4 Nb6 4.d4 d6 5.f4 g6 6.Nc3 Bg7 7.Be3 Be6 8.Rc1 0–0 9.b3 dxe5

[9...Na6 I have previously analysed this move and it seems to be playable. 10.Be2 c5 11.dxc5 Nxc5 12.Nf3 Rc8 13.0–0 dxe5 14.Nxe5 Nbd7 Very slight advantage white.

Black has sacrificed a pawn in order to get counter-play. White can fend off the initiative, but a drawn end game with opposite colour square bishops is the most likely outcome. Line 1, Ig Question 6.]

10.fxe5 c5 11.d5 Bf5 [11...Bc8 I think 11....Bc8 is slightly inferior than 11.Bf5, but it may not be as bad as I had initially thought. 12.Be2 N6d7 13.Nf3 Nxe5 14.Bxc5 Nxf3+ 15.Bxf3 Nd7 16.Bd4 Ne5 17.Be2 e6 Very slight advantage white.  Line 2, Ig Question 5.]

12.Be2 Na6 13.Nf3

12...Bxe5?! 13.Nf3 Bd6  14.O-O Nbd7  15.Bh6 Nf6  16.Qd2!? (TonyRo) Re8  17.Ng5± White's has a dangerous attack and a timely exchange sacrifice of the bishop on the f5 square will win the game. Line 3, Ig question  4.


The Ig Questions and Answers, 6,5 and 4.

6) Is 9...Na6 refuted? It appears better to me than 9...dxe5   
Kam: I have previously analysed 9…. Na6 and it seems to be playable. (Line 1) Some of the continuations may also transpose to the 9.b3 dxe5 variations.

5)  Is 11...Bc8 worse than 11….Bf5
Kam: I think so but surprisingly 11…. Bc8 yields white at best only a slight disadvantage (Line 2).

Backtracking:
4) is 12...Na6 the best move?
Kam: 12…. Na6 seems to be the best move.
     The continuation 12…. Bxe5?! 13.Nf3 has been extensively investigated and white always seems to always get a very strong position. Line 3.


  
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Re: Alekhine: Sergeev variation
Reply #25 - 04/24/20 at 14:59:00
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Right, I missed earlier post (Kam, I am sorry)
  
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