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Re: Is the compromised defense in the Evans Gambit =?
Reply #8 - 06/21/16 at 18:40:40
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7...dxc3 is almost losing by force, play 7...Nge7! with equality instead.
  

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Re: Is the compromised defense in the Evans Gambit =?
Reply #7 - 06/21/16 at 00:59:12
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Now try that in a single post.
1. What is the state of play?
2. What are you suggesting?
3. How is your suggestion significant?

And please, respectfully, the games of a low-rated player against a software, unless situated, are of little help to anyone.
Situate the discussion, and explain.

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Re: Is the compromised defense in the Evans Gambit =?
Reply #6 - 06/20/16 at 23:28:00
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Bibs wrote on 05/24/16 at 01:21:27:
And today's theory indicates what in these lines...?
Context, dear fellow. Place your comments, in theoretical context.

'Random internet person of limited ability plays computer' is not necessarily interesting in itself, particularly, with the greatest respect, for those here familiar with your published 'work'.


Here is a game from ECO: Wurschner-Makovsky Corr. 2001: 7...dxc3 8.Qf3 Qf6 9.e5 Qg6 10.Nxc3 Nge7 11.Ba3 O-O 12.Rad1 Bb6 (Departing from the game which saw Re8 13.Bd3 Qh5 14.Ne4 Nxe5 15.Nxe5 Qxe5 16.Bb2 Qe6 17.Qb5 +/- 12...Bb6 is also not in Evans Gambit And A System Vs. TWO KNIGHTS' DEFENSE [Rev. 2nd Ed] by Tim Harding) 13.Qa4 (Bd3 Qh5 14.Ne2 d5 15.exd6 cxd6 16.Ng3 Qa5 17.Bxd6 Rfe8 =) Re8 14.Bd3 Qh5 15.g4 Qh3 16.Ng5 Qh4 17.Nf3 Qh3=
  
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Re: Is the compromised defense in the Evans Gambit =?
Reply #5 - 05/24/16 at 01:21:27
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And today's theory indicates what in these lines...?
Context, dear fellow. Place your comments, in theoretical context.

'Random internet person of limited ability plays computer' is not necessarily interesting in itself, particularly, with the greatest respect, for those here familiar with your published 'work'.
  
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Re: Is the compromised defense in the Evans Gambit =?
Reply #4 - 05/23/16 at 21:39:06
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Bibs wrote on 02/06/16 at 00:58:30:
You did this before. And it bothered people.
Lengthy software games and conversations with yourself.

Better to refer to the theory.
How does what's happening here connect with what current understanding is?
From what texts and games?
Thanks
B


Steinitz displays his defensive brilliance in this game against the solid player (Grandmaster by today's standards, Blackburne in London 1872:) 4.b4 Bxb4 5.c3 Ba5 6.d4 exd4 7.O-O dxc3 8.Qb3 Qf6 9.e5 Qg6 10.Nxc3 Nge7 11.Ne2 b5! 12.Bd3 Qe6 13.Qb2? -/+ (White is the first to blink; White had to play Qxb5 here with only one missing pawn for the initiative. After 13...Qd5 14.Qxd5 Nxd5 =/+) 13...Ng6 14.Bf4 O-O (Ngxe5-+)  0-1:55
  
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Re: Is the compromised defense in the Evans Gambit =?
Reply #3 - 02/06/16 at 02:31:29
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I second what Bibs said and hope that the mods keep this on a very short leash.
  
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Re: Is the compromised defense in the Evans Gambit =?
Reply #2 - 02/06/16 at 00:58:30
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You did this before. And it bothered people.
Lengthy software games and conversations with yourself.

Better to refer to the theory.
How does what's happening here connect with what current understanding is?
From what texts and games?
Thanks
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Re: Is the compromised defense in the Evans Gambit =?
Reply #1 - 02/05/16 at 00:53:43
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sloughter wrote on 02/05/16 at 00:50:50:
Here are a couple of games played against Deep Fritz 14:

Moody-Deep Fritz 14 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5 6. d4 exd4 7. O-O dxc3 8.Qb3 Qf6 9. e5 Qg6 10. Nxc3 Nge7 11. Ba3 O-O 12. Rad1 Bb6 13. Qa4 h6 14. Bd3 f5! 15. exf6 Qxf6 16. Qc4+ d5 17. Nxd5 Nxd5 18. Qxd5+ Be6 19. Qe4 Bf5 20. Qd5+ Be6 21. Qe4 Bf5 22. Qd5+ Be6 1/2-1/2

Moody-Deep Fritz 14 12...Bxc3 13.Nxc3 h6 14.Bd3 Qe6 15.Bc4 Qg6 16.Bd3 Qe6 17.Bc4 Qg6 18.Bd3 1/2-1/2

Black seems to be able to force a draw by repetition in all the key variations. If Black errs e.g., however, as in Fischer-Fine, White can get a blistering attack. Black has other choices but 12...b5 13.Nxb5 =. If 12...b6? 13.Nb5 +/=



12...Bxc3 13.Qxc3
  
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Is the compromised defense in the Evans Gambit =?
02/05/16 at 00:50:50
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Here are a couple of games played against Deep Fritz 14:

Moody-Deep Fritz 14 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5 6. d4 exd4 7. O-O dxc3 8.Qb3 Qf6 9. e5 Qg6 10. Nxc3 Nge7 11. Ba3 O-O 12. Rad1 Bb6 13. Qa4 h6 14. Bd3 f5! 15. exf6 Qxf6 16. Qc4+ d5 17. Nxd5 Nxd5 18. Qxd5+ Be6 19. Qe4 Bf5 20. Qd5+ Be6 21. Qe4 Bf5 22. Qd5+ Be6 1/2-1/2

Moody-Deep Fritz 14 12...Bxc3 13.Nxc3 h6 14.Bd3 Qe6 15.Bc4 Qg6 16.Bd3 Qe6 17.Bc4 Qg6 18.Bd3 1/2-1/2

Black seems to be able to force a draw by repetition in all the key variations. If Black errs e.g., however, as in Fischer-Fine, White can get a blistering attack. Black has other choices but 12...b5 13.Nxb5 =. If 12...b6? 13.Nb5 +/=


  
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