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Reply #18 - 05/06/16 at 15:45:57
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JEH wrote on 05/06/16 at 14:28:40:
I am eagerly awaiting...

A Complete Black repertoire book  based on the Pirc and the KI
by Alexei Kornev

Delayed, sadly  Sad



Maybe he is still thinking how to handle 4. Be3 Pirc or waiting for Kotronias saga on KI to be finished so he can outsmart it  Shocked.
  
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Reply #17 - 05/06/16 at 14:28:40
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AJZ wrote on 05/06/16 at 14:06:27:
I meant that there is a gap in the literature concerning advanced repertoire books on Pirc


I am eagerly awaiting...

A Complete Black repertoire book  based on the Pirc and the KI
by Alexei Kornev

Delayed, sadly  Sad


http://www.chess-stars.com/Future_Plans.html
  

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"Those who want to go by my perverse footsteps play such pawn structure with fuzzy atypical still strategic orientations."
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Reply #16 - 05/06/16 at 14:08:15
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Larsen_fan wrote on 05/06/16 at 12:39:27:
Hi
I just aquired it and have looked through the first 3 - 4 clips. Not being a Pirc player I cannot judge the lines and quality - just looking for a Little inspiration. I must say that Bojkov is very good at presenting. In the intro with a Little smile he explain that you should always be on guard against anyone promising an advantage with Black but with the lines he propose we will give the first player plenty of oppotunity to go wrong even with natural looking development. He then goes on to show how dark Square strategy can work in what seems as very simple positions. Nice!
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Strategy section and good presentation are nice things indeed!
  
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Re: Attacking with the Pirc by Dejan Bojkov
Reply #15 - 05/06/16 at 14:06:27
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JEH wrote on 05/06/16 at 13:11:00:
There seemed like a flood at one point, with DVDs too. I've heard Nigel Davies is doing a Pirc "Move by Move"


I don't count starting out/move by move books or DVDs here. I meant that there is a gap in the literature concerning advanced repertoire books on Pirc. For example today there is two excellent Negi books on the Sicilian Dragon and in 2004 there was Dearing great Dragon book under Play... Gambit series. For Pirc there is no QC book yet and there wasn't any Play... series book either, and I heard that "Pirc Alert II" wasn't properly updated. One can also check how many great books on King's Indian have been recently published.

The only hope right now seems to be Kornev's yet to be published book:
http://www.chess-stars.com/Future_Plans.html
He recommends in his 3 volume 1.d4 work to transpose to Pirc after 1...d6 and play 4. Be3 lines, so it will be interesting to check how he answers himself  Grin
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Reply #14 - 05/06/16 at 13:16:28
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Larsen_fan wrote on 05/06/16 at 12:39:27:
He then goes on to show how dark Square strategy can work in what seems as very simple positions.


Yes, I'd forgotten about the strategy sections. Very handy for new Pircites and allegedly experienced players who keep forgetting what the are meant to be doing  Embarrassed

I keep trying to give up the Pirc, but it's too deep in my chess psyche, so I reckon it will be with me for life  Shocked
  

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AJZ wrote on 05/06/16 at 11:40:49:
How strange it is that there is no Pirc repertoire book for black published since


There seemed like a flood at one point, with DVDs too. I've heard Nigel Davies is doing a Pirc "Move by Move"
  

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Re: Attacking with the Pirc by Dejan Bojkov
Reply #12 - 05/06/16 at 12:39:27
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Hi

I just aquired it and have looked through the first 3 - 4 clips. Not being a Pirc player I cannot judge the lines and quality - just looking for a Little inspiration. I must say that Bojkov is very good at presenting. In the intro with a Little smile he explain that you should always be on guard against anyone promising an advantage with Black but with the lines he propose we will give the first player plenty of oppotunity to go wrong even with natural looking development. He then goes on to show how dark Square strategy can work in what seems as very simple positions. Nice!

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Reply #11 - 05/06/16 at 11:54:21
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AJZ wrote on 05/06/16 at 08:23:22:
Thank you JEH - now I know how you have collected 1181 posts.


Yes, I've posted a lot of cr@p in my time  Cheesy
  

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Re: Attacking with the Pirc by Dejan Bojkov
Reply #10 - 05/06/16 at 11:53:40
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AJZ wrote on 05/06/16 at 08:23:22:
How would you compare the DVD to Marin's two DVDs? Are the proposed lines generally sound - how would you rate the quality of the DVD from the point of view of the Pirc theory?


This is theory from GMs who know their stuff! I would be happy to play lines from both, but I'd be more likely to play the lines from Bojkov.

Marin's lines seems to be very principled "I'm going to go Bg7 and 0-0" whatever and a prove I am sound. I got quite taken by this approach some years ago as it seem if this was possible then the Pirc might be a "correct" defence. However he makes a couple of pertinent points. In one line, Marin is describing why he preferred Qc7 over Nbd7, saying something like  "the Pirc is not a classical opening, so principles like developing the Knight first don't apply". And in another complicated line, not sure if it was his recommended 0-0/Nbd7 line against the Austrian, he talks about Black's high risk play being something that is something necessary if you are trying to win with Black.
So, fine for a GM, or players stronger than me maybe, but I found in practice when I play things like castling into the Argentine attack I got right royally stuffed (although it worked great in blitz  Cool ). So I'm drifting back to "not castling into it"

With Bojkov, the lines are more like how I used to play the Pirc, and I am drifting back to. Against the Austrian I have played 5. ...c5 since way back when, 5. ...0-0+Na6 (Martin and Davies DVDs, not with good results  Sad ), and 5. ...0-0+Nc6 (no DVDs on this, doing it old school, best results for me here). Not tried Marin's approach.

So, although useful to have options, I'm coming back round to 5. ...c5. I have also looked at the Kd7 stuff a lot over time, and it does seem Black's play might not be that silly (well you've still got the fxe6 forced draw stuff if you look elsewhere) and Bojkov shows his majesty scurrying off to the Queenside with an artificial castling. Hmm, I really need to re-watch my Bojkov DVD  Smiley

But really, don't mess about.  For 50% off, getting the Bojkov DVD seems a no brainer  Smiley



  

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Re: Attacking with the Pirc by Dejan Bojkov
Reply #9 - 05/06/16 at 11:40:49
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Confused_by_Theory: Would like someone to do a decent Pirc repertoire mostly around a6-based setups some day though.


How strange it is that there is no Pirc repertoire book for black published since...uhm I don't know.
I read that Quality Chess may do something with this eventually. But why not publish it under Everyman Chess in decent "Opening Repertoire"  series, J.V. Wink?

...a6 lines in Pirc are also of my interest.
  
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Re: Attacking with the Pirc by Dejan Bojkov
Reply #8 - 05/06/16 at 10:01:19
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Hi.

AJZ wrote on 05/05/16 at 09:32:50:
The DVD is discounted by 50%:
http://shop.chessbase.com/en/products/bojkov_attacking_with_the_pirc
so it's a good moment to buy it.
JEH wrote on 05/05/16 at 10:04:21:
A 50% deal looks excellent!

Indeed. Will probably buy the DVD myself.

JEH wrote on 05/05/16 at 10:04:21:
Of these, Bojkov's is probably closest to what I'd play, and I like most of his lines.

Some interesting lines for sure.

Would like someone to do a decent Pirc repertoire mostly around a6-based setups some day though (This is what I tend to play).

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Re: Attacking with the Pirc by Dejan Bojkov
Reply #7 - 05/06/16 at 08:47:47
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Here one more good review I've just found that gives also major lines covered by Bojkov:

http://chessbooks.nl/elburg180.html

"Covered are lines as:
- 1.d4 d6 2.e4 g6 3.Nf3 Bg7 4.Be2 Nf6 5.Nc3 Bg4 6.0-0 Nc6 7.Be3 e5 8.dxe5 dxe5 9.Qxd8+ Nxd8 10.h3 Bxf3 11.Bxf3,
- 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Be2 0-0 6.0-0 Bg4 7.h3, 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4 Bg7 5.Nf3 c5 6.e5 Nfd7 7.exd6 0-0 8.Be2 exd6 9.0-0 Nc6 10.Be3 Nf6 11.Kh1 b6 12.Bf2 Bb7 13.Bh4 Ne7 14.dxc5 bxc5 15.Qd3 Nf5 16.Bf2 Ng4,
- 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4 Bg7 5.Nf3 c5 6.d5 0-0 7.Bd3 e6 8.0-0 exd5 9.exd5 Na6 10.h3 Nb4 11.Bc4 Bf5 12.Rf2 Re8 13.a3 Na6 14.Bd3 Nc7 15.Bxf5 gxf5,
- 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4 Bg7 5.Nf3 c5 6.dxc5 Qa5 7.Bd3 Qxc5 8.Qe2 Nc6 9.Be3 Qa5 10.0-0 Bg4 11.h3 Bxf3 12.Qxf3 0-0 13.Rae1 Nd7 14.Bd2 Qb6+ 15.Kh1 Qxb2 16.Rb1 Qa3 17.Rb3 Qa5 18.Rxb7 Nc5 19.Rb5 Qa3
- 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4 Bg7 5.Nf3 c5 6.dxc5 Qa5 7.Qd4 dxc5 8.Qc4 0-0 9.e5 Be6 10.Qa4 Qxa4 11.Nxa4 Nfd7 12.Be3 Nc6 13.Nxc5 Nxc5 14.Bxc5 Rac8 15.Ba3 f6 16.exf6 Rxf6 17.g3 Bg4 18.Bc4+ Kh8 19.Bd5 e5 20.Ng5 Nd4 21.0-0 exf4 22.Bxb7 Rxc2,
- 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4 Bg7 5.Nf3 c5 6.Bb5+ Bd7 7.e5 Ng4 8.e6 Bxb5 9.exf7+ Kd7 10.Nxb5 Qa5+ 11.Nc3 cxd4 12.Nxd4 h5 13.h3 Nc6 14.Nde2 Nh6 15.Be3 Raf8 16.Qd3 Qf5 17.Ne4 Qxf7 18.Ng5 Qg8 19.c4 Nf5 20.Bf2 Kc7 21.0-0 Kb8 22.Rae1 Bf6 23.Ne4 g5,
- 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4 Bg7 5.a3 0-0 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Be2 d5 8.e5 Ne4 9.Be3 Nxc3 10.bxc3 Na5 11.0-0 a6 12.a4 Qe8,
- 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bg5 Bg7 5.e5 Nfd7 6.f4 0-0 7.Nf3 Nb6 8.Be2 Nc6 9.0-0 f6 10.exf6 exf6 11.Bh4 d5 12.Ne1 Ne7 13.g4 Nc4 14.Bxc4 dxc4 15.Ng2 f5,
- 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 c6 5.Qd2 Nbd7 6.f3 b5 7.g4 Nb6 8.b3 Bb7 9.g5 Nfd7 10.h4 Bg7 11.h5 Rg8 12.a4 b4 13.Nce2 a5 14.c4 c5 15.Rc1 e6 16.d5 exd5 17.exd5 Qe7 18.h6 Bh8 19.Nh3 0-0-0 20.Kf2 Rde8 21.Rg1 Kb8 22.Nhf4 Ne5 23.Bh3 Ba6 24.Ng2 f6 25.f4 Nexc4 26.bxc4 fxg5 27.fxg5 Rgf8+ 28.Ngf4 Nxc4 29.Rxc4 Bxc4 30.Be6 Be5 31.Rc1 Bxe2 32.Kxe2 Qxg5,
- 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bf4 c6 5.Qd2 b5 6.a3 Bg7 7.f3 Nbd7 8.Nge2 a5 9.a4 b4 10.Nd1 Ba6 11.Bh6 Bxh6 12.Qxh6 Qb6 13.Qd2 0-0 14.Nc1 Bxf1 15.Rxf1 c5 16.d5 e6,
- 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Be2 0-0 6.0-0 Nc6 7.h3 e5 8.Be3 exd4 9.Nxd4 Re8 10.Nxc6 bxc6 11.Bf3 Rb8 12.Rb1 c5,
- 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.g3 Bg7 5.Bg2 0-0 6.h3 e5 7.Nge2 exd4 8.Nxd4 Nc6 9.Be3 Bd7 10.0-0 Re8 11.Re1 Nxd4 12.Bxd4 c5 13.Be3 Bc6 14.Bf4 Re6 15.Nd5 Qd7 16.Nxf6+ Bxf6 17.c3 Rae8 18.Qd2 Bxe4 19.Bxe4 Rxe4 20.Rxe4 Rxe4 21.Qxd6 Qxd6 22.Bxd6 Re2 23.Rb1 c4 24.Bc5 Re6
and more."
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Re: Attacking with the Pirc by Dejan Bojkov
Reply #6 - 05/06/16 at 08:23:22
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Thank you JEH - now I know how you have collected 1181 posts.  Smiley
How would you compare the DVD to Marin's two DVDs? Are the proposed lines generally sound - how would you rate the quality of the DVD from the point of view of the Pirc theory?

I would finally decide to buy or not tomorrow, as the deal will expire soon, so I'm still hoping for answers from others too.
  
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Reply #5 - 05/05/16 at 20:57:57
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By not castling into it, I mean not playing Bg7 and 0-0 until after developing the queenside with c6/Nbd7/b5 etc

Accelerated classical is Nf3/Be3/h3, i.e. without Be2 to "accelerate" the Bishop to c4 later

Be2 classical looks at c6 set up and Nc6/Bg4

150 attack, something with c6 I think.

No a6 lines.

I'm sure Mr Bojkov can explain this far better than me  Smiley

  

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Reply #4 - 05/05/16 at 20:29:54
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JEH wrote on 05/05/16 at 19:20:49:
The "not castling into it line" against the Argentine, and b6 against the Accelerated Classical.


4...a6 against Argentinian? and what's an accelerated classical? Thanks, I'm not really strong in Pirc theory.
  
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The "not castling into it line" against the Argentine, and b6 against the Accelerated Classical.
  

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Reply #2 - 05/05/16 at 16:45:18
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Ok, so I have one "go for it" answer. Do you remember what he recommends against the second main line/s - Be3 systems: 4. Be3 and 4. Sf3-5.Be3?
  
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Reply #1 - 05/05/16 at 10:04:21
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I have all the Pirc DVDs, Davies, Martin, Marin, any others?

Of these, Bojkov's is probably closest to what I'd play, and I like most of his lines. Against the Austrian Attack though, he goes for 5. ...c5 and 9. ..Kd7 in the critical mainline, which is not as bad as it looks, and it what I started my Pirc journey out with from "Opening Repertoire for the Attacking Player" way back when.

A 50% deal looks excellent!
  

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05/05/16 at 09:32:50
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The DVD was released in 2013 but I can't find reviews besides:
http://reviews.dailychess.org/a-somewhat-late-easter-gift-two-dvds-by-chessbase-...
The DVD is discounted by 50%:
http://shop.chessbase.com/en/products/bojkov_attacking_with_the_pirc
so it's a good moment to buy it. Unfortunately I can't find any reviews here too.
How would you compare it to Marin's DVDs and the book by Vigus from 2013?
Which lines he recommends? Is it worth the money if I have both Vigus books?
Thank you in advance!
  
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