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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #34 - 01/15/18 at 13:43:06
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What is the recomendation in the book for the line 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bf4?
What about the analysis of 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 a6? Is it useful?
Have you seen any move order issues like in the book of Marin?

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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #33 - 08/04/16 at 23:09:42
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Hello. Finally I have gotten hold of this book. Did a brief read and will share some things.

Austrian:(1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4)
(4...Bg7 5.Nf3 0-0) is what's covered.

In the obligatory dismissal of 5...c5 Davies notes a familiar problem; namely the chance white has to enter a drawing line should black not play the risky (6.Bb5+ Bd7 7.e5 Ng4 8.e6 Bxb5 9.exf7+ Kd7). Not good is that the almost certainly better (9...Kf8), which  avoids the quick draw - rendering all reasoning about a forced draw considerably less relevant, is not mentioned at all.

(1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4 Bg7 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Bd3 Na6 7.Bd3 c5 8.d5 Bg4) Is the move recommended in this mainline position. (8...Rb8 gets literally no mention at all and 8...Nc7 is briefly explained as being a possibly premature retreat). The author covers (8...Bg4) with relatively many games.

(1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4 Bg7 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Be3 Nbd7) Is preferred. In a cross-check with Greet's white repertoire book (beating unusual chess defences 1 e4, Everyman Chess, 2011) there is not much to compare. The author gives one (hardly relevant) game in the (7.Qd2 c5 8.dxc5) continuation.

(1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4 Bg7 5.Nf3 0-0 6.e5 Nfd7 7.Bc4) Most recently highligted in Tiger Hillarp's book on the Modern (The Modern Tiger, Quality Chess, 2014) is omitted.

Byrne: (1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bg5)

Here the author goes for (4...Bg7) and then h6+g5 setups. If 5.f4 preventing such setups he has a another setup in store; which is a fairly straightforward one.

Be3 systems: (1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3)

(1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 a6) is the move covered.

(5.h3) is given critical move status. (5.Nf3) is covered in a couple of games. (5.f4) (along with alternative fifth moves) are not present (except 5.Qd2 where the author shows one move specific idea for white).

After (5.h3 0-0 6.g4) A positionally risky continuation is recommended.

In all kinds of Nc6+e5 lines e.g. (1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 a6 5.h3 Bg7 6.Nf3 0-0 7.a4 Nc6 8.Qd2 e5) White captures on e5 immediately and that's it.

Classical: (1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Be2 0-0 6.0-0)

6...Bg4 followed by Nc6+e5 is the selected line.

Fianchetto: (1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.g3 Bg7 5.Bg2 0-0 6.Nge2)

(6...e5) Is recommended.

Three more chapters: "other lines", "third move alternatives" and "second move alternatives"

Are also in the book. Many different lines covered here of course.


Have a nice day.

  
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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #32 - 07/19/16 at 15:53:24
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New in Chess are advertising this with sample pages on Be3 systems.

https://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/7604.


  
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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #31 - 06/15/16 at 18:13:09
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MartinC wrote on 06/15/16 at 08:21:27:
The bump?


  

Those who want to go by my perverse footsteps play such pawn structure with fuzzy atypical still strategic orientations

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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #30 - 06/15/16 at 08:21:27
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The bump? A traditional way (on such forums) to raise the profile a request that has dropped back due to its age.
  
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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #29 - 06/14/16 at 18:44:27
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Hi Paddy

can you please "decode" ?

thanks, lg
  
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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #28 - 06/14/16 at 14:50:43
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Paddy wrote on 06/04/16 at 17:54:00:
This book has now been published, in various formats.

Opinions anyone?


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Reply #27 - 06/04/16 at 17:54:00
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This book has now been published, in various formats.

Opinions anyone?
  
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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #26 - 05/28/16 at 10:59:12
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Hi.

JEH wrote on 05/28/16 at 08:25:05:
Not that I can dispute the play of a Super GM, but I think Nbd7 fits better with a c5 plan

Maybe you should.



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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #25 - 05/28/16 at 08:27:08
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RdC wrote on 05/27/16 at 18:32:04:
wouldn't recommend the Pirc or Modern to anyone unless they had a convincing line against it.


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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #24 - 05/28/16 at 08:25:05
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Not that I can dispute the play of a Super GM, but I think Nbd7 fits better with a c5 plan
  

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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #23 - 05/27/16 at 19:30:15
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Good evening.

Here is the Harikrishna game as a PGN:


Michael Ayton wrote on 05/27/16 at 14:27:49:
Just off the top of my head I'm tempted to be sceptical about Black's seventh move! With a4/a6 in I always thought Black should be putting the Knight on c6. (Something which Nigel Davies likes doing in lots of Pirc-Modern positions, as I recall ...)

(7...Nc6) looks more normal to me as well. Every time Nc6 can not be met by a favourable d5 push it tends to be a very reasonable way of setting up as black.

Still the more I look at the position the more reasonable (7...Nbd7) seems to me. How does one really play as white to show the deficiences of black's setup? Harikrishnas way (with 8.h3 and dxe5 against e5 by black) is certainly one of the reasonable tries as white often gets some kind of very minor pull in positions with this structure. Still (9...Nxe5) looks like an obvious improvement, when after (10.Nxe5 dxe5) the exchange of an extra pair of pieces along with the immediate issue of a threatened queen swap makes me think white should have some problems getting meaningful pressure. Not that fun to play black though Tongue.

alyechin wrote on 05/27/16 at 15:56:24:
In my opinion the Pirc is an opening to beat weaker players, especially on club level, because many club players have antitodes against the sicilian, but they have no idea against the Pirc.

The Pirc can often be played in way which draws in the opponent into a strategic fight and creates fairly interesting positions. This is the way I personally think the Pirc is best used and of course you can beat a wide array of players playing like this.

One can often also play in a way where you try to hit back at white fairly forcefully. This this tends to work best when white has made one or two imprecisions though.

Also there tends to be setups where you manage to get your pieces out reasonably as black yet with some kind of minor positional disadvantage; which you then try to slowly diminish.

AJWZ wrote on 05/27/16 at 16:44:59:
There is a sample with a part of the Austrian attack and the index of lines here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pirc-Move-Nigel-Davies/dp/1781943206/ref=pd_ybh_a_7?ie=....

Must say I'm a bit disappointed to see (6...Na6) and (8...Bg4) and what looks like nothing else against (6.Bd3).

AJWZ wrote on 05/27/16 at 16:44:59:
2nd & 3rd moves alternatives are also included.

Many pluses for this though Smiley.

Have a nice day.

Edit: Clarified a part of the text where I had written a chess move badly.
  
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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #22 - 05/27/16 at 18:32:04
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alyechin wrote on 05/27/16 at 15:56:24:
but they have no idea against the Pirc.


The 150 Attack, as played by Harikrishna, is pretty simple and well known, in the UK at least. I wouldn't recommend the Pirc or Modern to anyone unless they had a convincing line against it.
  
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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #21 - 05/27/16 at 17:26:10
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It's probably pertinent to note that because a move happens to appear in an Everyman book churned out by a fairly low-rated GM (2400 or something) does not make it necessarily 'right'.
That's not to disparage the writer overly, just to note the way of things.
But yes, ...Nc6 would look to 'fit', in my limited reckoning of such positions.
  
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Re: The Pirc: Move by Move by Nigel Davies
Reply #20 - 05/27/16 at 17:06:47
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AJWZ wrote on 05/27/16 at 16:44:59:
Michael Ayton & Bibs:
You are right - in the excerpt Davis mentions Olsson-Davies when the knight is on c6 and e5 is comming. He thinks that White has nothing (page 103).


For that matter, in the particular position of Harikrishna-Mamedyarov, 7...Nc6 was given as leading to equality in ECO (2002).
  
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