Hello.
PatzerKing wrote on 01/15/18 at 13:43:06:
What is the recomendation in the book for the line 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bf4?
See Stigma's post.
PatzerKing wrote on 01/15/18 at 13:43:06:
What about the analysis of 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 a6? Is it useful?
As a practical player the answer would be yes. Theoretically I have not gone red team against the analysis presented so cannot really say.
In the lines he chooses to cover with more games (i.e. 4.Be3 a6 5.h3 and 4.Be3 a6 5.Nf3) coverage looks to focus on what looks like decent lines at least so that is good.
PatzerKing wrote on 01/15/18 at 13:43:06:
Have you seen any move order issues like in the book of Marin?
Nope. But I will read a bit more and see if I can spot any.
RdC wrote on 01/16/18 at 17:10:31:
Whilst one might regard 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 as "mostly harmless", there is a variation now played by English GMs Hebden and Williams which can run 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4
If you just continue 4. .. d6, then after Qd2 you are now defending a 150 Attack.
Yes. This is quite possible.
It should be mentioned though that you have already played Bg7 here so if you want the more flexible version of the 4.Bf4 Pirc you should probably consider:
1.d4 Nf6 2.Bf4 g6 3.Nc3 d6 4.e4Stigma wrote on 01/16/18 at 22:30:46:
I haven't kept up with the Pirc debates here lately, so I don't know what the special problem with 4.Bf4 is.
But Davies actually covers it and takes it seriously. His main choice is based on lines with an early ...Nc6: 4.Bf4 Bg7 and now 5.Nf3 Nc6 or 5.Qd2 Nc6 (though his main line after 5.Qd2 Nc6 looks very scary for Black to my eyes). 4...a6 is suggested but not analyzed, while 4...Bg7 5.Nf3 a6!? is given a bit of analysis.
I also don't really like the look of:
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.Qd2 Nc6(6.0-0-0 with the knight not obviously being especially good on c6)
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bf4 a6 5.e5Looks not so appetizing for black either in my view.
and quite possibly after:
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bf4 Nc6 5.Qd2It will be hard to find something distinct though still decent for black compared to the 4...Bg7 line.
So if white plays these ways I think I would not like to face 4.Bf4.
PatzerKing wrote on 01/16/18 at 15:05:31:
The main idea was to make all the lines working where Black plays …a6 especially in the 4.Be3/4,Bg5 variations. But I was wondering how to face 4.Bf4 without being move-ordered into the lines that Kornev or Marin mention after 4.Be3/4.Bf4.
Maybe:
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bf4 c6 5.Qd2 b5Have a nice day.