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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #14 - 11/13/16 at 01:29:36
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Fllg wrote on 06/06/16 at 20:29:13:
Black is fine after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d3 0-0 6.0-0 d5, one reason being the line 7.exd5 Nxd5 8.b4 Be7! 9.b5 Na5 10.Bxd5 Qxd5 11.c4 Qd7 12.Bd2 e4 13.Bxa5 exf3 14.Qxf3 a6! with good compensation for Black. Of course White has other possibilities here which may be more challenging.


Regarding 6. 0-0 Emms agrees on p. 66 that "it's early days" and "it will be interesting too see how this relatively fresh line progresses." But the line he actually recommends is 6. b4 which I play and am very happy with.
  
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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #13 - 06/09/16 at 14:33:40
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Well, TN?
Which line?
  
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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #12 - 06/07/16 at 14:21:01
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Wow. Quite the claim there re: Ng5 and a small edge. Assuming the software is powered up. Specifics...?
  
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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #11 - 06/07/16 at 07:57:39
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Probably Saric's Italian video series for Chess24, since he's the only one I know of who recommends the optimal move order 3...Bc5 4.0-0! Nf6 5.d3, to be able to meet 5...0-0 with 6.Nbd2/6.Re1 (making ...d5 a lot less effective). That's not an option you have in 4.c3 Nf6 5.0-0 0-0, as 6.Bg5 is well met by 6...h6 7.Bh4 Be7! 8.Nbd2 d6 with equality.

However, Saric recommends meeting 3...Nf6 with 4.d3 to stay consistent with his 3...Bc5 White repertoire, whereas you can find a small edge with 4.Ng5 if you work on the lines enough with the computer.

By the way, I haven't found any heavy analysis on the modern 3...Bc5 4.0-0 Nf6 5.d3 d6 6.c3 a6 7.a4! yet, but I think it's as good a try for an edge as entering the Spanish main lines.
  

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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #10 - 06/06/16 at 21:12:58
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Many thanks Fllg, this is very useful. I see Black's idea! Meanwhile it seems I should look at Saric's video as well as Emms' book ...

In the delayed-c3 line, maybe 6 Nbd2!? inhibits 6 ...d5 as well? At any rate I think 7 ed Nd5 8 Ne4 Be7 9 Re1 (Giri-Bacrot) has been given as a slight(?) edge to White.
  
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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #9 - 06/06/16 at 20:29:13
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Black is fine after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d3 0-0 6.0-0 d5, one reason being the line 7.exd5 Nxd5 8.b4 Be7! 9.b5 Na5 10.Bxd5 Qxd5 11.c4 Qd7 12.Bd2 e4 13.Bxa5 exf3 14.Qxf3 a6! with good compensation for Black. Of course White has other possibilities here which may be more challenging.

Saric sidesteps the problem by suggesting the move order 4.0-0 Nf6 5.d3 0-0 6.h3!?, postponing the move c2-c3 a bit. Of course he also looks at other options for Black on move 5.

I would advise against Lane´s old book since that is clearly outdated by now. Buy Emms if you want to learn the basics of the Italian Game with c3 & d3.
  
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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #8 - 06/06/16 at 12:54:09
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Emms' book is very good but it should be noted that it's clearly dated regarding the coverage of 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d3 0-0!? with Black intending to push ...d7-d5 quickly.


Very interesting! I always assumed this was better for White -- am I out of date, or just wrong? Can anyone summarise briefly the main modern battlegrounds? -- does Saric's video cover these well? (I've often thought of acquiring Gary Lane's book on the Bishop's Opening, but perhaps that's out of date now? ...)
  
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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #7 - 06/04/16 at 04:53:52
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Bibs wrote on 06/04/16 at 01:24:20:
Tiv's DVD - also well worth a visit. True, his delivery is not too smooth, but he is always organized and thorough. I go there to learn chess, not to find a life partner.


Yes, Tiviakov is a bit dry, has a stilted accent, if you come from a English-speaking as first language world. But he is very thorough. Also his DVDs has a collection of games in a CBV database to start you off.
I enjoyed his presentation better than Viorel Bologan or Karsten Muller or Alexei Shirov, amongst the non-english speaking presenters.
PS this is an opinion from watching his c3 Sicilian and Black repertoire DVD, not the Italian c3 d3 DVD.
  

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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #6 - 06/04/16 at 01:24:20
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Emms' book is very good. In fact he is always reliable. A good author.
Tiv's DVD - also well worth a visit. True, his delivery is not too smooth, but he is always organized and thorough. I go there to learn chess, not to find a life partner.
  
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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #5 - 06/03/16 at 23:24:55
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Thanks for the responses everyone! Emm's book sounds interesting, I'll go ahead and order that. If only a line or two are out of date, that's great, especially for a book published 6 years ago. I don't usually use videos for learning openings, but I'll look into the ones mentioned here, particularly if they can cover the out of date line(s) from the repertoire book. Some of them might be suited for my students as well. I'll also keep an eye out here on the forums for when that book gets released by NIC.
  

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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #4 - 06/03/16 at 16:38:12
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I noticed that NIC apparently has a forthcoming book called "Winning with the Slow (but Venomous!) Italian: An Easy-to-Grasp Chess Opening for White,"  by the German-Greek IM Georgios Souleidis.  (I know of him largely from his collections of "Gurken," i.e. blunders, from the Bundesliga.)
  
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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #3 - 06/03/16 at 13:44:46
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Emms´ book is very good but it should be noted that it´s clearly dated regarding the coverage of 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d3 0-0!? with Black intending to push ...d7-d5 quickly.

I´m not aware of any recent printed sources. Another good video lecture can be found on chess24 by GM Ivan Saric.
  
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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #2 - 06/03/16 at 12:51:34
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Not sure  if you are interested in videos, but GM Stefan Kindermann has a video series on the c3 d3 Italian. Very good. I would hazard a guess it is aimed at 1400-1800 coming to c3 d3 Italian for the first time.

Also noted, but have not personally viewed it, is GM Tiviakov's DVD for Chessbase.

BTW, also depends whether you wish to play the Italian with c3 d4 or the c3 d3. Quite different creatures. I guess depends on your strength.
  

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Re: Best Italian Repertoire Book?
Reply #1 - 06/03/16 at 08:38:54
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I like Emms' Beating 1 e4 e5 a lot. It's not at a Quality Chess level of detail but he handles lots of move orders and gives lots of key ideas, including occasionally providing multiple alternative plans. I've been quite successful at my level (2000 USCF) with it, including a win against an IM (in a G/60, granted).

He gets to it using the Bishop's Opening to avoid things like the Petroff, so if you want to play 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 you'll need to supplement it with another resource.
  
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Best Italian Repertoire Book?
06/03/16 at 07:56:02
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Hello, I'm wondering which repertoire books that feature the italian game against 1. e4 e5 you all think are the best? I'm pretty unfamiliar with resources involving 1. e4 e5, having played 1. d4 exclusively for around 15 years. I'd personally be interested in learning more about it, have students that play it, and know the people here at chesspub are extremely knowledgeable when it comes to top quality books and learning resources. I checked earlier threads but mostly found questions about specific books or particular variations, not any questions regarding which repertoire books are the best. Thanks for your time.

If you know any high quality books about italian game pawn structure themes, or strategy in general I'd be happy to hear about them too!
  

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