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Reply #18 - 01/14/17 at 06:34:16
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Confused_by_Theory wrote on 01/13/17 at 22:17:57:
In general I am disappointed 13...f5 was chosen as the cut off point.


Considering the size and scope of the book, this may not be the only case.

4. Bg5 is quite a bugbear. The book gives 6. ..g5 and 6. ..0-0!? I think this is the only part of the repertoire where there are two options. This might be telling  Huh

For practical purposes, in this sort of defence (i.e. you are going for unbalance with some risk rather than full equality), you need to have multiple options ready and more than two in some cases!

By offering the full on King's Indian as the sister opening, once that has been assimilated, the Modern move order could be used against Bg5 specialists.
  

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Reply #17 - 01/13/17 at 22:51:46
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Confused_by_Theory wrote on 01/13/17 at 22:17:57:
Hi.

fling wrote on 01/13/17 at 19:05:01:
Well, the analysis stops at 13...f5=.

Thanks fling.

fling wrote on 01/13/17 at 19:05:01:
"Later, Black can prepare an attack against the enemy king on the semi-open b-file and can also plan a transfer of his knight to the weakened e4-square".

Optimistic imo.

In general I am disappointed 13...f5 was chosen as the cut off point. Seems to me like black still has some problems to solve in the early middlegame. While highlighting ideas such as attacking on the open b-file and going Nd7-f6-e4 is perhaps useful (don't see how either would work though) I dislike them being brought up in connection with an evaluation that way.

Have a nice day.


You are welcome!

Well, I just had a brief look, and agree that it seems like White's position is easier to play and there may be something. If the authors felt it is equal, they should have added some explanation more than a general plan, when the position is that concrete.
  
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Reply #16 - 01/13/17 at 22:17:57
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Hi.

fling wrote on 01/13/17 at 19:05:01:
Well, the analysis stops at 13...f5=.

Thanks fling.

fling wrote on 01/13/17 at 19:05:01:
"Later, Black can prepare an attack against the enemy king on the semi-open b-file and can also plan a transfer of his knight to the weakened e4-square".

Optimistic imo.

In general I am disappointed 13...f5 was chosen as the cut off point. Seems to me like black still has some problems to solve in the early middlegame. While highlighting ideas such as attacking on the open b-file and going Nd7-f6-e4 is perhaps useful (don't see how either would work though) I dislike them being brought up in connection with an evaluation that way.

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Reply #15 - 01/13/17 at 19:05:01
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Well, the analysis stops at 13...f5=. "Later, Black can prepare an attack against the enemy king on the semi-open b-file and can also plan a transfer of his knight to the weakened e4-square".
  
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Reply #14 - 01/13/17 at 12:35:59
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Hey.

I have yet not got this book Sad (Will soon of course...).

Until then I much wonder how
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bg5 Bg7 5.Qd2 h6 6.Bh4 0-0!? 7.0-0-0
Is dealt with. The more I look at it the less I like black; even if white probably has to show some precision early on to avoid black getting quite sensible setups. Some lines:


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Reply #13 - 01/02/17 at 18:50:18
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Very pleased to see one of my games selected as model play for Black in one of the variations  Cool

Only had a quick look at the recomendations and so far I'm very happy Smiley

Smiley Lots of new stuff to try out! Smiley
  

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Reply #12 - 12/23/16 at 05:06:36
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I have never liked the Nc6 lines here (seems too artificial), or the extended fianchetto stuff (i.e. with g5. too weakening), even though they have been played and recommended often. Even the c5 lines are somewhat shaky too.

After nudging the Bishop, there are other options apart from Nc6  or g5, like the universal c6 and going for the usual stuff.

I'm still looking forward to getting my hands on this book  Cool

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Reply #11 - 12/22/16 at 23:14:48
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Hi.

Fllg wrote on 12/22/16 at 19:13:21:
After 5...h6 Shaw´s 6.Bf4 is only a sideline. To his credit Kornev recommends 6...a6 here (because he doesn´t like 6...g5 7.Be3 Ng4 8.h4 for Black) which in return isn´t mentioned by Shaw.

Great. 6...a6 Looks like the best line imo Smiley.

Fllg wrote on 12/22/16 at 19:13:21:
However, the two books merge again after 6.Bh4 (or 6.Bf4) g5 7.Bg3 Nh5 8.0-0-0 Nc6 9.Qe3 Bd7 10.Be2 when they both cite the game Holdschik - Gildred, Chessfriend.com 2004. After the further 10...Nxg3 11.hxg3 e5 12.dxe5 Nxe5 13.f4 Ng4 14.Bxg4 Bxg4 15.Nf3 c6 16.e5 Shaw stops and evaluates the position as clearly better for White while Kornev follows the game a little longer with 16...Qb6 17.Qxb6 axb6 18.Rxd6 Bf8 and attests Black compensation for the pawn. No further explanation is given and at first glance Shaw´s assessment seems nearer to the truth to me.

Don't really get why anyone would want to go into that as black (and consequently why it is in a repertoire book Huh). Further 13.Kb1 looks like a hot contender for line-buster as well.

Fllg wrote on 12/22/16 at 19:13:21:
But Kornev also analyses 6.Bh4 0-0 which may be more reliable for Black.

This I looked at a little bit. Can't say I found anything truly inspiring for black. If white goes for what is likely the critical line, 7.0-0-0, black seemed to benefit in many lines from white having castled long though.


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Reply #10 - 12/22/16 at 19:13:21
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AJZ wrote on 12/22/16 at 06:40:18:
How 5...h6 compares to Shaw's treatment?


After 5...h6 Shaw´s 6.Bf4 is only a sideline. To his credit Kornev recommends 6...a6 here (because he doesn´t like 6...g5 7.Be3 Ng4 8.h4 for Black) which in return isn´t mentioned by Shaw.

However, the two books merge again after 6.Bh4 (or 6.Bf4) g5 7.Bg3 Nh5 8.0-0-0 Nc6 9.Qe3 Bd7 10.Be2 when they both cite the game Holdschik - Gildred, Chessfriend.com 2004. After the further 10...Nxg3 11.hxg3 e5 12.dxe5 Nxe5 13.f4 Ng4 14.Bxg4 Bxg4 15.Nf3 c6 16.e5 Shaw stops and evaluates the position as clearly better for White while Kornev follows the game a little longer with 16...Qb6 17.Qxb6 axb6 18.Rxd6 Bf8 and attests Black compensation for the pawn. No further explanation is given and at first glance Shaw´s assessment seems nearer to the truth to me.

But Kornev also analyses 6.Bh4 0-0 which may be more reliable for Black.
  
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Reply #9 - 12/22/16 at 08:22:11
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AJZ wrote on 12/22/16 at 06:40:18:
after 4.Be3 I prefer 4...a6, and in 4.Bg5 line 5...h6 and not 5...c6


You could think of it as more options  Smiley
  

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Reply #8 - 12/22/16 at 06:40:18
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Fllg wrote on 12/20/16 at 18:41:37:
AJZ wrote on 12/20/16 at 08:01:25:
I'm particularly interested in theoretical duel with J. Shaw.


I´m afraid in that case you may be disappointed.

I bought the book on Forward Chess and the Preface dates "December 2016"
but the bibliography somewhat strangely does not contain Shaw´s "Playing 1.e4" at all.

I do not have the time to compare everything right now but it´s noticable that in the line 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 Bg7 5.Qd2 c6 6.Bh6 Bxh6 7.Qxh6 Qa5 8.Bd3 c5 9.d5 Nbd7 10.Nf3 Kornev correctly gives 10...c4! as best but fails to consider an improvement given by Shaw later on.

However, Shaw reaches this position after 4.Bg5 when Kornev recommends 4...Bg7 5.Qd2 h6 instead of 5...c6.



Well, it's a little dissapointing indeed. Nonetheless, as after 4.Be3 I prefer 4...a6, and in 4.Bg5 line 5...h6 and not 5...c6, I'm still hoping for decent treatment at least the later lines. How 5...h6 compares to Shaw's treatment?
  
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Reply #7 - 12/20/16 at 18:41:37
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AJZ wrote on 12/20/16 at 08:01:25:
I'm particularly interested in theoretical duel with J. Shaw.


I´m afraid in that case you may be disappointed.

I bought the book on Forward Chess and the Preface dates "December 2016"
but the bibliography somewhat strangely does not contain Shaw´s "Playing 1.e4" at all.

I do not have the time to compare everything right now but it´s noticable that in the line 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 Bg7 5.Qd2 c6 6.Bh6 Bxh6 7.Qxh6 Qa5 8.Bd3 c5 9.d5 Nbd7 10.Nf3 Kornev correctly gives 10...c4! as best but fails to consider an improvement given by Shaw later on.

However, Shaw reaches this position after 4.Bg5 when Kornev recommends 4...Bg7 5.Qd2 h6 instead of 5...c6.

  
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Reply #6 - 12/20/16 at 14:07:21
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JEH wrote on 12/20/16 at 10:55:36:
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Not a good time of year to get books delivered fast, and I want it NOW!

So I plan to get it from the Book stall in Hastings next week. Apologies if I trample you in the rush  Smiley


I'll be buying from Russia (cheaper and hardcover ed.  Smiley), so I'm going to wait longer than you. Sad
  
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Reply #5 - 12/20/16 at 10:55:36
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Not a good time of year to get books delivered fast, and I want it NOW!

So I plan to get it from the Book stall in Hastings next week. Apologies if I trample you in the rush  Smiley
  

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Reply #4 - 12/20/16 at 08:01:25
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The book is out:
http://www.chess-stars.com/index.html

Waiting for your impressions/assessments, especially about the Pirc. I'm particularly interested in theoretical duel with J. Shaw.
  
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