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Re: Pert on the Ragozin - new book from QualityChess
Reply #15 - 06/20/17 at 19:01:13
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mn wrote on 02/18/17 at 23:33:04:
What do you mean?


I mean that you seem to have answered your own question and that you're free to play whatever you want.
  
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Re: Pert on the Ragozin - new book from QualityChess
Reply #14 - 06/20/17 at 13:55:00
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TN wrote on 02/25/17 at 07:43:27:
The 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 coverage comes that close to providing a full repertoire based on the Nimzo that it wouldn't have been so much more effort to also give systems against 4.Qc2/4.f3,


Not sure, if I understand you correctly, but I'll give a quote from Cornette anyway (excerpt from his new Ragozin book):
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And finally, the last part of this book is about what I call
the ‘Accelerated Ragozin’: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4. It’s a move-order I have used quite often myself and most of the time it reaches the ‘normal’ Ragozin, even if White has different options. Black’s main idea behind this move-order
can be to avoid the Nimzo-Indian with 4.Qc2 or the line with 4.e3 followed by 5.Nge2. If White tries to play these continuations in the accelerated Ragozin, Black has a strong ...dxc4 response.


So, it seems Black doesn't have to bother with 4.Qc2 in this move order. Not sure about 4.f3, but I will have a look at Pert's book.

Right now it seems the 1.d4 d5 move order is a bit more practical, but I will try the other one for the richness of Nimzo anyway.
  
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Re: Pert on the Ragozin - new book from QualityChess
Reply #13 - 02/25/17 at 07:43:27
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Well, against 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Nf3, 4...d5 is the logical move for a Ragozin player of course. Really pedantic players might prefer 4...c5, 4...b6 or 4...0-0 on the basis that it is rated marginally better by the engine at a high depth, but it's not like White is forcing any advantage against the Ragozin, of course.

The 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 coverage comes that close to providing a full repertoire based on the Nimzo that it wouldn't have been so much more effort to also give systems against 4.Qc2/4.f3, but that wasn't really necessary when Roiz's Nimzo book was released at roughly the same time. Another positive feature of the Ragozin is that you can also play ...Nf6/...e6/...d5 against the Flank Openings, although be careful not to get move ordered into non-...Bb4 Catalan lines after 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.g3 d5 4.Bg2 (for instance).
  

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Re: Pert on the Ragozin - new book from QualityChess
Reply #12 - 02/18/17 at 23:33:04
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ErictheRed wrote on 02/17/17 at 19:14:48:
mn wrote on 02/09/17 at 01:39:14:
If you play the Ragozin, why not transpose into one after 4 Nf3. I don't see 4...c5 as being that much better than 4...d5 that it's worth learning an extra branch that you don't strictly need.


Okay, then don't transpose to the Nimzo.


What do you mean?
  
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Re: Pert on the Ragozin - new book from QualityChess
Reply #11 - 02/17/17 at 19:14:48
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mn wrote on 02/09/17 at 01:39:14:
If you play the Ragozin, why not transpose into one after 4 Nf3. I don't see 4...c5 as being that much better than 4...d5 that it's worth learning an extra branch that you don't strictly need.


Okay, then don't transpose to the Nimzo.
  
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Reply #10 - 02/09/17 at 01:39:14
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If you play the Ragozin, why not transpose into one after 4 Nf3. I don't see 4...c5 as being that much better than 4...d5 that it's worth learning an extra branch that you don't strictly need.
  
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Reply #9 - 02/08/17 at 08:10:15
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It's easy and best not to transpose to the Ragozin if you are already in the nimzo. I think 4...c5 is better than 4...d5 even if there is nothing wrong with 4...d5.
  
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Re: Pert on the Ragozin - new book from QualityChess
Reply #8 - 02/07/17 at 09:37:14
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Do most Nimzo/Ragozin players play 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Nf3 d5? This transposes to a Ragozin and cuts down on the amount of theory to learn, but I was wondering if most Nimzo players play something different against 4.Nf3 in the Nimzo.
  
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Re: Pert on the Ragozin - new book from QualityChess
Reply #7 - 11/27/16 at 20:54:52
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The Vienna? Life and death and a utterly massive number of forced draws I think.

The preview mentions that he's covering the 6..b5!? option there, which is plain wild. Did think it got a bit buried by the odd super GM game but presume some repairs since.
  
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Reply #6 - 11/25/16 at 22:56:48
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I have Alejandro Ramírez dVd,  and the most remarkable difference is in the 5.Bg5 line, going here to the Vienna. Anybody here DO that?  Has the Viena the massive amount of theory I think it has? Or maybe is not so dramatic as Black to be prepared in the main lines?

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Reply #5 - 11/25/16 at 22:48:26
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brenog wrote on 11/24/16 at 10:54:38:
The author is Richard Pert


Sorry,  Richard Pert is the author, yes.

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Reply #4 - 11/24/16 at 23:53:59
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So is the Botvinnik-Capablanca 4 e3 Nf6 5 a3 thingy meant to be okay for Black now? Last I checked it still looked rather pleasant for White.
  
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Re: Pert on the Ragozin - new book from QualityChess
Reply #3 - 11/24/16 at 16:18:26
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Intriguing to see the 1 d4 d5  2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 Bb4 move order apparently now felt respectable enough to fit into a QC opening book.
  
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Re: Pert on the Ragozin - new book from QualityChess
Reply #2 - 11/24/16 at 13:41:42
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CanadianClub wrote on 11/24/16 at 10:40:00:
There is an excerpt available on their website, where we can find a list of the lines Mr. Pert analyzes/proposes in the book. For example, this rare line with Qd6 in the main main line (for me the 5.Bg5 is the main line).

Salut,

Angry And here I was planning to play this 6...Qd6 for surprise value... good luck with that now. Thanks a lot, Quality Chess! Roll Eyes
  

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Re: Pert on the Ragozin - new book from QualityChess
Reply #1 - 11/24/16 at 10:54:38
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The author is Richard Pert
  
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