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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #21 - 07/18/17 at 12:20:22
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Attempts to play the Nimzo after 1.c4 Nf6 2.a3 have also met some sharp setbacks, though admittedly in very low-level games.

Joking aside, Eingorn discusses the issue of uniformity, in his case the idea of  trying to make 1...e6 work for everything, in his Gambit repertoire book. For a Black response to a flank opening that matches one's response to 1.d4 to be useful, Eingorn says, there need to be "transpositions that work in [Black's] favor ... and areas of strategic common ground. Above all, his choice[s] against 1.c4 and 1.Nf3 shouldn't mean that he is forced to transpose to huge tracts of [mainline] theory that he has hitherto been able to avoid."

The difficulty of constructing a repertoire is often that an anti-idea-x move order is vulnerable to idea y. Why force x then? Go with y. Eingorn chose 1.c4 c5.
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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #20 - 07/17/17 at 12:01:40
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I answered in the linked thread
  
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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #19 - 07/16/17 at 01:20:40
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This is not a nimzo, but an antinimzo. I am referring to 1.Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3.Nc3. Is it the line?

The book we are discussing here don't cover this. In fact, as a nimzo player myself I haven't found any recent source for that kind of aglo-nimzo or whatever it's called. Usually, people have a very decent rep vs 1.e4 or 1.d4 but misses English and Reti. The line given is playable, I suppose, but if you play 1.c4 c5 as Black, you would consider playing also 1.Nf3 c5, but only if you play Sicilians also.

If you stick with Nf6 + e6 vs English / Reti setups you probably will be playing some queens indian setups, maybe acceptable. But for me, imho, trying to play the nimzo at all costs is not a great idea.

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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #18 - 07/16/17 at 00:53:51
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The real problem with the Nimzo for me is 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c3  Nf6 2. c3  e6 3. Nc3 Bb4. White's less ambitious play with the restriction of d4 doesn't offer Black targets for counterplay and gives White more time to solidify his position before opening up the game for his bishop pair. I hope I'm wrong but I explained my thoughts here:

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1193339403
  
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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #17 - 04/11/17 at 12:03:18
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Templare2 wrote on 04/10/17 at 15:57:34:
Which line the autor suggests after 4. f3 c5    5. d5 0-0  6. e4 b5  7. e5?

Sielecky prefers 7.., Ne8 and Sokolov 7.., Nh5

Black has also tried 7.., exd5?!  but i'm not convinced.

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If you read my post he plays d6 instead of 0-0.
"4 f3 c5 intening  5 d5 d6 6 e4 b5."
0-0 is a sharper option that I think is covered in Dangereus Weapons Nimzo Indian.
  
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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #16 - 04/10/17 at 15:57:34
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bragesjo wrote on 01/31/17 at 16:48:48:
Got this book yesterday.
The book is basically dived in three parts.
Part 1 varios 4th moves.
Part 2  4 e3
Part 3 4 Dc2

If anyone is interested  I give some quick lines

4 Qc2 d5 intending to met for example 5 exd5 with Qxd5 and 5  a3 with Bxc3 6 Dxc3 0-0
4 e3 0-0 intending Karpov system
4 f3 c5 intending  5 d5 d6 6 e4 b5.
4 Bg5 c5
4 a3 Bxc3 5 bxc3 Nc6!?
4 Nf3 c5



Which line the autor suggests after 4. f3 c5    5. d5 0-0  6. e4 b5  7. e5?

Sielecky prefers 7.., Ne8 and Sokolov 7.., Nh5

Black has also tried 7.., exd5?!  but i'm not convinced.

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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #15 - 03/22/17 at 14:44:01
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Great, thanks. May be forced to get it (life is rough  Wink )
  
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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #14 - 03/02/17 at 21:35:53
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CanadianClub wrote on 03/02/17 at 08:26:43:
ReneDescartes wrote on 03/01/17 at 01:46:58:
Nice. Does he cover lines where White plays Bg5 and Nd2?


I have the book at home (not with me now), but I remember he does cover this line you point out.

d4 d5 c4 e6 Nf3 Nf6 Bg5 and then Bb4+, White covers with Nd2 (covering the check with Nc3 would be a normal Ragozin) and then dxc4 by Black. I can check tonight and confirm if was confused, but I think it's correct.

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I checked the book and there are 8 pages full of analysis in this line  Cool
  
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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #13 - 03/02/17 at 08:26:43
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ReneDescartes wrote on 03/01/17 at 01:46:58:
Nice. Does he cover lines where White plays Bg5 and Nd2?


I have the book at home (not with me now), but I remember he does cover this line you point out.

d4 d5 c4 e6 Nf3 Nf6 Bg5 and then Bb4+, White covers with Nd2 (covering the check with Nc3 would be a normal Ragozin) and then dxc4 by Black. I can check tonight and confirm if was confused, but I think it's correct.

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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #12 - 03/01/17 at 01:46:58
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Nice. Does he cover lines where White plays Bg5 and Nd2?
  
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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #11 - 02/27/17 at 10:02:37
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Against 3.Nf3 - 3...d5 if you want a classical setup, 3...b6 if you really like the hypermodern approach, 3...Bb4 for the lazy player, 3...c5 if you want to attack, loosely speaking. Naturally there's a bit of flexibility within each of these options. For what it's worth, Pert gives a full repertoire from 3...d5 in his recent book 'Playing the Ragozin', which is easy to miss because he uses the 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 Nf6 move order.
  

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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #10 - 02/27/17 at 05:29:11
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The Nimzo is a great opening! I just find it hard picking something against 3.Nf3 that I like.
  
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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #9 - 02/25/17 at 07:51:21
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One can't blame the author for giving the cleanest equaliser, even with it being drawish in nature. Various past repertoire books offered good ideas for Black to play for a win, though none mention 7...dxc4 8.Bxc4 Bd7 as in Gelfand-Anand - I'm still not sure White has more than the faintest of edges there. The beauty of the Nimzo in a way is how easily you can add new systems based on your opponent, tournament situation and own taste; for instance, I find the 4...0-0 5.Bd3 c5 move order is one players below 2500 struggle a lot with.

I've seen the extended Fianchetto with 6...b6 7.0-0 Ba6 suggested in the past too, although I think there are better options if Black wishes to possess genuine winning chances.

Returning to the book itself - I didn't yet work through that much of it, but I was pretty impressed with the depth of Roiz's analysis of the 7.Qb3 Romanishin. In an ideal world there'd be alternative options for Black depending on the tournament situation, but then the book would be two volumes rather than one, so you can't really complain.
  

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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #8 - 02/11/17 at 23:50:58
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I believe you can avoid the perpetual by playing 11...h6 12 Bh4 Nd7 instead of 11...Nd7.
  
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Re: GM Repertoire Nimzo Indian
Reply #7 - 02/11/17 at 23:21:03
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bragesjo wrote on 02/09/17 at 13:57:08:
Unfortunaly there is no  given improvments over whites forced draw line.

"17 Qh4 A quiet draw offer." "19..  kh8 and a draw was agreed in Shirov- Giri Hoogeveen 2014"

I have actually met it myself in many internet blitz games via a Caro Kann move order and many white players played this line even in unrated games.


Thanks! I guess I won't be playing that line as Black then. Maybe I'll try 4.e3 b6 or some other line.
  
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