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Reply #22 - 11/09/17 at 06:16:31
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Reply #21 - 11/08/17 at 11:07:20
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http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1891394

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Reply #20 - 11/08/17 at 09:38:39
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gewgaw wrote on 11/07/17 at 12:20:46:
Check the game Naidisch - Ponomarjov


Could someone post the game here?
  

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Re: GM repertoire - Pirc
Reply #19 - 11/08/17 at 08:04:07
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Hi.

JEH wrote on 11/07/17 at 15:30:31:
gewgaw wrote on 11/07/17 at 12:20:46:
looks like a refutation of the Pirc


One of them,  Grin

In fact Chesspub forum tradition dictates there needs to be posted on the forum at least one new "refutation" of the Pirc every year.

Or, some say, the Pirc will get unrefuted for ever Shocked


gewgaw wrote on 11/07/17 at 12:20:46:
http://en.chessbase.com/post/european-team-championship-2017-live

Check the game Naidisch - Ponomarjov, looks like a refutation of the Pirc. What is Marin`s set up against it?

He goes 5...Nbd7 and if 6.g4 b5 (! - Marin) 7.a3 he doesn't go 7...Bg7.

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gewgaw wrote on 11/07/17 at 12:20:46:
looks like a refutation of the Pirc


One of them,  Grin
  

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Reply #17 - 11/07/17 at 12:20:46
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http://en.chessbase.com/post/european-team-championship-2017-live

Check the game Naidisch - Ponomarjov, looks like a refutation of the Pirc. What is Marin`s set up against it?
  

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Reply #16 - 10/14/17 at 11:12:09
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Thanks for the updates!  Smiley
  
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Reply #15 - 10/13/17 at 01:24:58
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Marin recommends 8…fxe6, while also providing some analysis of 8…Bxb5 9.exf7+ Kf8 as a way of keeping the game going.

Andrew Greet on the QC blog on the Austrian Attack main line (Bb5+, e5, e6).
  
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Reply #14 - 10/12/17 at 00:41:18
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Hello.

1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 c6 (5.Nf3 Bg7; 5.h3 Nbd7; 5.Qd2 Nbd7)
and
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Be2 0-0 6.0-0 c6

Are now confirmed as being recommended in the book.
http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/blog/6223#comment-344149

Only a few more weeks...

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Re: GM repertoire - Pirc
Reply #13 - 10/07/17 at 15:46:05
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Hello.

picasso911 wrote on 10/07/17 at 11:42:07:
Honestly, I'm a bit disappointed after reading the excerpt.

In the first place, his recommendations in the Austrian with 5...c5 look to me slightly irritating considering Marin's great games and results with 5...0-0/6...Na6. It seems, he primarily wants his book to be a little more different from his previous DVDs and maybe from Tiger's book as well.

Secondly, I thought he would present a bunch of his own games explaining his thought process in the middlegames and the resulting endgames. Instead, after the "naked" (certainly strong!) moves in theory, there is just an evaluation and unfortunately no more middlegame plans or motifs to remember for the reader.

The 5...c5 Austrian (and certainly the 5.a3 0-0 6.Nf3 c5 in the excerpt) is a lot about playing the right moves and sequences and is fundamentally a lot more principled way of playing compared to the strategic wizardry of 5...0-0 6.Bd3 Na6. I suppose therefore that if there is some imbalance towards concreteness over strategic considerations, in the Austrian part of the book at least, it would seem fairly ok for me. That being said I too was hoping for 5...0-0 6.Bd3 Na6. Tongue

Most interesting of all for me though is how well or unwell Marin weaves in strategy in the 4.Be3 c6 chapters. Here, even if the moves given are good ones, one can certainly make the argument that some basic strategic understanding of the positions is good for an author to convey to the reader.

Given that 4.Be3 c6 is the line chosen there is presumably also a good chance that the 6...c6 classical will be seen (otherwise for example black would have to do something clever after 4.Be3 c6 5.Be2 - although I'm not saying this should be a total impossibility). Here some strategic wisdom from Marin would be welcome. Black's task strategically is not really so easy imo.

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Reply #12 - 10/07/17 at 11:42:07
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Honestly, I'm a bit disappointed after reading the excerpt.

In the first place, his recommendations in the Austrian with 5...c5 look to me slightly irritating considering Marin's great games and results with 5...0-0/6...Na6. It seems, he primarily wants his book to be a little more different from his previous DVDs and maybe from Tiger's book as well.

Secondly, I thought he would present a bunch of his own games explaining his thought process in the middlegames and the resulting endgames. Instead, after the "naked" (certainly strong!) moves in theory, there is just an evaluation and unfortunately no more middlegame plans or motifs to remember for the reader.
  
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Reply #11 - 10/05/17 at 11:50:54
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Hello.

We have a release date. Smiley

From QC blog:
The QC publication date of “The Pirc Defence” by Mihail Marin and “Sharp Endgames” by Lund will be November 1. I know that date is a holiday in some countries, so I guess chess shops in those holidaying countries will have the books a day later.

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Reply #10 - 09/22/17 at 10:07:26
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Hi.

And it seems almost certainly also:
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 c6

Good, good. Smiley
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Reply #9 - 09/20/17 at 19:08:47
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So 5. ...c5 against the Austrian and different recommendations to his DVD!

  

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Reply #8 - 09/20/17 at 16:23:52
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The excerpt for “The Pirc Defence” is available now: http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/ebooks/PircDefence-excerpt.pdf
  
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