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Reply #13 - 03/22/17 at 09:41:23
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TonyRo wrote on 03/21/17 at 13:16:58:
I use the same move order - this allows the Reversed Grunfeld or KIA and early ...Bg4 lines, but I don't mind playing them and/or don't see them that much. I'd rather play this way than have to deal with the Reti Accepted or 2...d4.


You get to see quite a lot of the London system ( 1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 Bf5 ) and New York system ( 1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 Bg4). Move orders deferring .. Nf6 are also possible.

This recent game (Rapport - Carlsen) reaches one of the tabiya positions using a move order with an early b3.
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1859583

Rapport's idea of 11. Qb1 is worth noting as an alternative to the usual choices of Rc1, Qc2, Ra2 (to follow with Qa1).

If you play the Kings Indian, you can reach the colours reversed Reti positions as a defence to the increasingly popular 2/3 Bf4 systems.
  
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Re: Good books on the Reti opening
Reply #12 - 03/22/17 at 08:00:42
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Thanks for all of the very interesting answers. In May, I'm participating in an open in Denmark where Demuth will be playing as well. I  could ask him about the book if it hasn't been published yet. It could also be worth a shot getting Jones' book on Lb5 as it can be tempting transposing into the sicilian.
  
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Re: Good books on the Reti opening
Reply #11 - 03/21/17 at 22:30:24
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GabrielGale wrote on 03/21/17 at 22:15:25:
Paul Brondal wrote on 03/20/17 at 19:30:09:
Thanks for the information. This looks like tons of theory. Maybe the following can be used:

1. Against QGD the neo-catalan as described in Marin.
2. Fianchetto solutions against KID/Grünfeld; I could imagine that the Lemos book is good.
3. Marin solutions against symmetrical/e4 in the second move.
4. Use Marin against the Slav.

Then there is probably 1.Sf3 d5 2. c4 d4 for which I need a weapon; perhaps Delchev.


Khalifman/Kramnik 1ed 1 Nf3 transposes mainly to mainline QGD, 2ed Khalifman changes to the Catalan but did not complete the series (ie vol 5 was never updated).
But it is not a Reti-based/inspired repertoire.
If a fianchetto-based White  1 Nf3 repertoire is the goal and depending on your playing strength, then there is the compact (relatively speaking) Wojo's Weapons. It is also Catalan, fianchettoed KID and Grunfeld-based but you may or may not like Wojo inspired lines.
After dabbling and looking at a 1 Nf3 fianchettoed-based repertoire for many years (on and off) but probably not to MAyton's or TonyRo's experience or strength, I don't think there is any good books available. You have to compile yourself from various books. I think you also have to have a certain mentalite to play the Reti-based 1 Nf3 repertoire as White. It is very much a strategical middle game and endgame kind of chess where understanding of pieces and plans is more important. I have discovered that I have yet to gain much of that understanding and hence not very successful in playing this kind of repertoire.  Angry I am still trying for fianchettoes from both sides. Grin
Of course OP may be very much a stronger player than I and therefore may adapt much quicker.

So far the following books have been mentioned:
Khalifman/Kramnik 1 Nf3 5 vols (or 10 vols 1 ed and 2ed);
Marin's English (3 vols);
Wojo's Weapons (3 vols);
Delchev's Reti (1 vol but only Slav and Anti-Slav)
Lemos' book (I vol)

There is also Gawain Jones' book on Bb5 Sicilian but he provides KIA lines as part of the repertoire.
And there is also Neiman and Shoker's book, full of ideas but confusing (Sadler thought so in his review in NIC mag).

Other books (much older but I think still useful and usable) which may provide some ideas and specific lines:
Donaldson's book (1 vol 2ed)
Keene's Flank Openings (1-4ed)
Duncan Suttles' Games (3 vols)
Dunnington's Reti (introductory)


Thinkers Publishing is going to publish
The Modern Reti, a full repertoire for White
by Adrian Demuth in May according to their website.
  
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Re: Good books on the Reti opening
Reply #10 - 03/21/17 at 22:15:25
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Paul Brondal wrote on 03/20/17 at 19:30:09:
Thanks for the information. This looks like tons of theory. Maybe the following can be used:

1. Against QGD the neo-catalan as described in Marin.
2. Fianchetto solutions against KID/Grünfeld; I could imagine that the Lemos book is good.
3. Marin solutions against symmetrical/e4 in the second move.
4. Use Marin against the Slav.

Then there is probably 1.Sf3 d5 2. c4 d4 for which I need a weapon; perhaps Delchev.


Khalifman/Kramnik 1ed 1 Nf3 transposes mainly to mainline QGD, 2ed Khalifman changes to the Catalan but did not complete the series (ie vol 5 was never updated).
But it is not a Reti-based/inspired repertoire.
If a fianchetto-based White  1 Nf3 repertoire is the goal and depending on your playing strength, then there is the compact (relatively speaking) Wojo's Weapons. It is also Catalan, fianchettoed KID and Grunfeld-based but you may or may not like Wojo inspired lines.
After dabbling and looking at a 1 Nf3 fianchettoed-based repertoire for many years (on and off) but probably not to MAyton's or TonyRo's experience or strength, I don't think there is any good books available. You have to compile yourself from various books. I think you also have to have a certain mentalite to play the Reti-based 1 Nf3 repertoire as White. It is very much a strategical middle game and endgame kind of chess where understanding of pieces and plans is more important. I have discovered that I have yet to gain much of that understanding and hence not very successful in playing this kind of repertoire.  Angry I am still trying for fianchettoes from both sides. Grin
Of course OP may be very much a stronger player than I and therefore may adapt much quicker.

So far the following books have been mentioned:
Khalifman/Kramnik 1 Nf3 5 vols (or 10 vols 1 ed and 2ed);
Marin's English (3 vols);
Wojo's Weapons (3 vols);
Delchev's Reti (1 vol but only Slav and Anti-Slav)
Lemos' book (I vol)

There is also Gawain Jones' book on Bb5 Sicilian but he provides KIA lines as part of the repertoire.
And there is also Neiman and Shoker's book, full of ideas but confusing (Sadler thought so in his review in NIC mag).

Other books (much older but I think still useful and usable) which may provide some ideas and specific lines:
Donaldson's book (1 vol 2ed)
Keene's Flank Openings (1-4ed)
Duncan Suttles' Games (3 vols)
Dunnington's Reti (introductory)
  

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Re: Good books on the Reti opening
Reply #9 - 03/21/17 at 16:38:22
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TD wrote on 03/21/17 at 16:10:26:
What do you prefer against 5...d5?

6.c4 - though I have also dabbled with 6.Nbd2 and depending on Black's response either 7.c4 or 7.b3 + Bb2, etc. I feel like I should also say I was a little lazy with my move order in the above line - I'd likely go 4.d4 instead of castles. In 90% of my games it doesn't matter, but it's supposed to be a little bit more precise.
  
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Re: Good books on the Reti opening
Reply #8 - 03/21/17 at 16:10:26
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TonyRo wrote on 03/21/17 at 14:27:01:
You could also use for the KID and part of the Grunfeld I believe. I actually usually go with the Georg Meier special, 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.g3 g6 3.Bg2 Bg7 4.O-O O-O 5.d4 d6 6.b3!? - but that's not to everyone's taste.

What do you prefer against 5...d5?
  
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Re: Good books on the Reti opening
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You could also use for the KID and part of the Grunfeld I believe. I actually usually go with the Georg Meier special, 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.g3 g6 3.Bg2 Bg7 4.O-O O-O 5.d4 d6 6.b3!? - but that's not to everyone's taste.
  
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Re: Good books on the Reti opening
Reply #6 - 03/21/17 at 13:56:50
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Sounds like an interesting idea with 2. g3. I have Avrukh's old book on the fianchetto solution against KID/Grünfeld but surely he will come with an update of it.
  
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Re: Good books on the Reti opening
Reply #5 - 03/21/17 at 13:16:58
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Michael Ayton wrote on 03/20/17 at 19:56:49:
In both cases I myself begin with 1 Nf3 d5 2 g3 -- if you stick with the Reti perhaps you might find that move order useful?

I use the same move order - this allows the Reversed Grunfeld or KIA and early ...Bg4 lines, but I don't mind playing them and/or don't see them that much. I'd rather play this way than have to deal with the Reti Accepted or 2...d4.
  
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Re: Good books on the Reti opening
Reply #4 - 03/20/17 at 19:57:56
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Paul Brondal wrote on 03/20/17 at 19:30:09:
2. Fianchetto solutions against KID/Grünfeld; I could imagine that the Lemos book is good.

Lemos puts the king's knight on e2 in some of the Grünfeld lines. But maybe you're avoiding the Grünfeld with 1.Nf3 anyway. His King's Indian Fianchetto stuff is still relevant, though obviously less deep than the coverage in i.e. Avrukh (for White) and Kotronias (for Black).
  

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Re: Good books on the Reti opening
Reply #3 - 03/20/17 at 19:56:49
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Then there is probably 1.Sf3 d5 2. c4 d4 for which I need a weapon ...

The question arises, are there any good weapons? Over the last year or two I've been feeling that much as I love the Reti, Black is looking pretty fine and the Catalan might offer White better practical chances of an advantage. In both cases I myself begin with 1 Nf3 d5 2 g3 -- if you stick with the Reti perhaps you might find that move order useful?
  
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Re: Good books on the Reti opening
Reply #2 - 03/20/17 at 19:30:09
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Thanks for the information. This looks like tons of theory. Maybe the following can be used:

1. Against QGD the neo-catalan as described in Marin.
2. Fianchetto solutions against KID/Grünfeld; I could imagine that the Lemos book is good.
3. Marin solutions against symmetrical/e4 in the second move.
4. Use Marin against the Slav.

Then there is probably 1.Sf3 d5 2. c4 d4 for which I need a weapon; perhaps Delchev.
  
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Re: Good books on the Reti opening
Reply #1 - 03/20/17 at 16:47:35
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The best books on 1.Nf3 are "Opening for White according to Kramnik" by Khalifman.
  
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Good books on the Reti opening
03/20/17 at 15:11:37
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It seems to me that there aren't very many books on the Reti opening seen from white's perspective. Delchev has one but that only covers the anti-slav. I'm very fond of Marin's books on the English but 1. Sf3 avoids 1. -e5, and with 1. Sf3 you have have the possibility of transposing into the Sicilian after 1. -c5 with 2. e4. Using 1. Sf3 isn't so good with Marin's suggestions because he recommends the Botvinnik system with Sge2 against many setups. Of course, there are also down-sides with 1. Sf3 as you can answer it with -d5 but it would be nice with a good book on the Reti.
  
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