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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #36 - 06/20/17 at 17:52:27
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ruhroh wrote on 06/19/17 at 22:29:00:
Congratulations, Eric, from a former student who saw the first few pages back when Smiley


Thank you so much!  And check your email Smiley.
  
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Reply #35 - 06/19/17 at 22:29:00
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Congratulations, Eric, from a former student who saw the first few pages back when Smiley
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #34 - 06/12/17 at 18:42:26
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Though I mention some places where White can consider playing x...h6 y.Bxh6, in general I avoid those positions because if Black knows what he's doing he can avoid them completely (as Topnotch points out).
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #33 - 06/12/17 at 07:30:05
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kylemeister wrote on 06/11/17 at 22:23:09:
But 8...h6 9. Be3 ed 10. cd just transposes to 8...ed 9. cd h6 10. Be3, so I don't get the relevance of that first line.


In this move-order 8...exd5 9.cxd5 h6 White can now play 10.Bxh6 instead of 10.Be3 after which, as expressed in my previous post, its not clear to me that Black fully equalises. In any case playing 8...h6 first makes the issue moot.

Eric's book sounds interesting, looks like I may have to pick that one up as well.
  

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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #32 - 06/12/17 at 01:45:49
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befuddled wrote on 06/12/17 at 01:27:39:
I like the Saemisch and am curious what the author plays against 1...d5 and other 1...Nf6 lines.


I don't have any overall system or scheme of development that I play against everything.  For instance unlike the "Wojo's Weapons" series of books, I don't always fianchetto.  But I play the Catalan and related lines against ...e6 lines, 3.e4 against the QGA, and against the Grunfeld I play various lines of the Exchange variation or 4.Bg5 depending on mood.  Mostly the Exchange, though.  I also often play 3.Nc3 against the Slav. 

My choices all make tons of sense to me, but there's no single theme uniting them all.  Which I think is the best approach to openings: you should treat each position concretely and specifically.  I also think that in general, you should try not to give your opponent what he wants.
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #31 - 06/12/17 at 01:37:23
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Stigma wrote on 06/11/17 at 23:12:32:
TopNotch' 13...Nxe4 does look strong. I guess that means White should either allow ...b5 or prefer Ng3 to Nc1 in that specific move order? Though ...Nxe4 might even be playable one move earlier, without 12..a6 13.a4.

I have played the Sämisch a few times, but usually against lower-rated opponents where I could get by without really knowing the theory. I really need this book...

ErictheRed wrote on 06/09/17 at 18:02:14:
In the end I might not want to or need to change anything; Kotronias obviously hasn't seen my analysis, either! 

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I have a lot of improvements over older analysis from players like Sadler, Lautier, Kasparov, Dreev, etc. in my book; obviously I'm aided by strong engines, and every line was thoroughly checked, so I'm not worried.

I like the attitude!


Obviously White has to avoid the position after 13...Nxe4! that Toppy gave.  I first discovered that possibility about 3 years ago while looking through a correspondence database and was very surprised by it; it's since been published in other places (I was hoping to be the first to reveal it to the general public, but was too slow). 

White has plenty of other ways to pose Black problems, though the specifics depend on move order.  In the move order that Topnotch gave, Carlsen showed my preferred method, though I offer multiple solutions most of the time.  White should actually not be in a rush to put the knight on g3 in many lines; I do need to refer people to the book at some point though, I wrote it so that I didn't have to write hundreds of posts on here explaining everything Wink.   
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #30 - 06/12/17 at 01:27:39
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I like the Saemisch and am curious what the author plays against 1...d5 and other 1...Nf6 lines.
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #29 - 06/11/17 at 23:12:32
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TopNotch' 13...Nxe4 does look strong. I guess that means White should either allow ...b5 or prefer Ng3 to Nc1 in that specific move order? Though ...Nxe4 might even be playable one move earlier, without 12..a6 13.a4.

I have played the Sämisch a few times, but usually against lower-rated opponents where I could get by without really knowing the theory. I really need this book...

ErictheRed wrote on 06/09/17 at 18:02:14:
In the end I might not want to or need to change anything; Kotronias obviously hasn't seen my analysis, either! 

[...]

I have a lot of improvements over older analysis from players like Sadler, Lautier, Kasparov, Dreev, etc. in my book; obviously I'm aided by strong engines, and every line was thoroughly checked, so I'm not worried.

I like the attitude!
  

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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #28 - 06/11/17 at 22:23:09
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But 8...h6 9. Be3 ed 10. cd just transposes to 8...ed 9. cd h6 10. Be3, so I don't get the relevance of that first line.
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #27 - 06/11/17 at 21:38:27
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ErictheRed wrote on 06/11/17 at 01:20:10:
TopNotch wrote on 06/10/17 at 18:01:12:
Regarding 6.Bg5 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Qd2 exd5 (I think 8...h6! is more accurate here and should be preferred). Do you reach the same conclusion in your review.


How do you intend to follow up?  There are many different systems possible; Black can play a quick ...h6-h5 like Bologan recommended in his repertoire book from a few years ago.  Play is also different depending on whether Black plays ...a6 or not. 

Because of numerous transpositional possibilities, I've essentially divided the Benoni chapter into lines where Black plays ...a6 but not ...h6, ...a6 with ...h6 (but not ...h5), ...h6 and ...h5 without ...a6, etc, etc.  Move order is important; a game from the current world champion in this line contains an important nuance for White, for instance.  It's all a little confusing; see my book for details, of course!

But I think that I probably agree with you, Topnotch.


I had this kinda follow up in mind: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 0-0 5.f3 c5 6.d5 d6 7.Bg5 e6 8.Qd2 h6 9.Be3 exd5 10.cxd5 Re8 11.Nge2 Nbd7 12.Nc1 a6 13.a4 Nxe4!=/+

Essentially if Black can play 8...h6 without any downside then he should do so, as it could win a tempo in some lines and in general provides Black with more tasty possibilities as illustrated in the above example.

Another compelling reason to play h6 on move 8 rather than 9 is that it completely neutralises Bxh6 ideas, after 9...h6 10.Bxh6 it is not 100% clear to me that Black completely equalises, whereas after 8...h6 9.Bxh6 Black has the convincing rejoinder: 9...Nxe4 10.Nxe4 Qh4+ 11.g3 Qxh6 12.Qxh6 Bxh6 13.Nxd6 Na6! = This key idea does not work if you include 8...exd5 9.cxd5 as it would be well met by Bxa6.

Kotronias' thoughts on these lines would be interesting to comment on, but that will have to wait till I have his new KID book in my hands.
  

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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #26 - 06/11/17 at 01:20:10
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TopNotch wrote on 06/10/17 at 18:01:12:
Regarding 6.Bg5 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Qd2 exd5 (I think 8...h6! is more accurate here and should be preferred). Do you reach the same conclusion in your review.


How do you intend to follow up?  There are many different systems possible; Black can play a quick ...h6-h5 like Bologan recommended in his repertoire book from a few years ago.  Play is also different depending on whether Black plays ...a6 or not. 

Because of numerous transpositional possibilities, I've essentially divided the Benoni chapter into lines where Black plays ...a6 but not ...h6, ...a6 with ...h6 (but not ...h5), ...h6 and ...h5 without ...a6, etc, etc.  Move order is important; a game from the current world champion in this line contains an important nuance for White, for instance.  It's all a little confusing; see my book for details, of course!

But I think that I probably agree with you, Topnotch.
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #25 - 06/10/17 at 18:01:12
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ErictheRed wrote on 06/09/17 at 18:02:14:
Stigma wrote on 06/08/17 at 20:41:04:
Kotronias' final King's Indian tome on the Sämisch and various others, from the Black side of course, is just out.

Eric, will you be able to have a look at it and (if at all necessary) squeeze in a few extra lines where the books cross paths? Book reviewers often mention this advantage of having the other book as a source when comparing books for White and for Black on the same line.


Hmmm, I'm not sure.  I submitted the final manuscript nearly two months ago, so I suspect that it's going to the printers very soon.  I could email Byron to see.  I haven't seen Kotronias' analysis yet, and it may take a little while to get my hands on it.  In the end I might not want to or need to change anything; Kotronias obviously hasn't seen my analysis, either! 

From his Table of Contents page, it looks like he goes for one of the main lines of 6.Bg5 c5 7.e5 e6 8.Qd2 ed 9.cd, but I have no idea which one.  I'm of the opinion that the best players in the world from the later 90s (back when 6.Bg5 was extremely popular, though it still has a devoted following) were correct in thinking that this is Black's theoretically best continuation.  I have a lot of improvements over older analysis from players like Sadler, Lautier, Kasparov, Dreev, etc. in my book; obviously I'm aided by strong engines, and every line was thoroughly checked, so I'm not worried.

If I can't get my hands on Kotronias' work before my book goes to publication, I'll of course be happy to discuss lines here.


Regarding 6.Bg5 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Qd2 exd5 (I think 8...h6! is more accurate here and should be preferred). Do you reach the same conclusion in your review.
  

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Reply #24 - 06/09/17 at 18:02:14
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Stigma wrote on 06/08/17 at 20:41:04:
Kotronias' final King's Indian tome on the Sämisch and various others, from the Black side of course, is just out.

Eric, will you be able to have a look at it and (if at all necessary) squeeze in a few extra lines where the books cross paths? Book reviewers often mention this advantage of having the other book as a source when comparing books for White and for Black on the same line.


Hmmm, I'm not sure.  I submitted the final manuscript nearly two months ago, so I suspect that it's going to the printers very soon.  I could email Byron to see.  I haven't seen Kotronias' analysis yet, and it may take a little while to get my hands on it.  In the end I might not want to or need to change anything; Kotronias obviously hasn't seen my analysis, either! 

From his Table of Contents page, it looks like he goes for one of the main lines of 6.Bg5 c5 7.e5 e6 8.Qd2 ed 9.cd, but I have no idea which one.  I'm of the opinion that the best players in the world from the later 90s (back when 6.Bg5 was extremely popular, though it still has a devoted following) were correct in thinking that this is Black's theoretically best continuation.  I have a lot of improvements over older analysis from players like Sadler, Lautier, Kasparov, Dreev, etc. in my book; obviously I'm aided by strong engines, and every line was thoroughly checked, so I'm not worried.

If I can't get my hands on Kotronias' work before my book goes to publication, I'll of course be happy to discuss lines here.
  
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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #23 - 06/08/17 at 20:41:04
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Kotronias' final King's Indian tome on the Sämisch and various others, from the Black side of course, is just out.

Eric, will you be able to have a look at it and (if at all necessary) squeeze in a few extra lines where the books cross paths? Book reviewers often mention this advantage of having the other book as a source when comparing books for White and for Black on the same line.
  

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Re: New Book on the Samisch
Reply #22 - 05/29/17 at 20:42:31
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Top 20ish at least yes, with maybe a bit of potential to add. Like McShane I guess. Just how it is of course, better opportunities for them elsewhere.
  
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