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Re: Stone wall or classical dutch?
Reply #3 - 07/11/18 at 18:41:44
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I tried the Stonewall in a couple of recent correspondence chess tournaments. I found it interesting and solid (and echo RoleyPoley's appreciation for Brabo's analysis on these boards). I'd need to study it a bit further, but in the end I'm not sure it suited my play terribly. But I did like its relative solidity and will definitely return to it on occasion.

Inasmuch as I used to play the Bird as White in the manner of a Classical Dutch, I've never fully brought myself to want to play it as Black. I've had very good results against it, which I think tempered my desire to try and defend its honour.

We've discussed this topic before on these boards, but I suspect that the real questions surrounding Dutch plans involve how to start (with 1...f5 or 1...e6) and what kinds of move-order challenges Black needs to prepare. I came around to the notion that I preferred avoiding some anti-Dutch lines and that meant opening with 1...e6, but I didn't want to play the French—and didn't trust my English Defence (1.d4 e6 2.e4 b6) as being as stalwart an option as others...
  

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Re: Stone wall or classical dutch?
Reply #2 - 07/10/18 at 09:18:02
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I forgot to also say that i found Brabo's analysis on the stonewall fascinating and was partly inspired to play that opening because of him talking about it on here...however, my reluctance to play it is also because of Brabo and his highlighting of lines which are troublesome for black.
  

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Re: Stone wall or classical dutch?
Reply #1 - 07/09/18 at 21:31:59
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Mtal wrote on 07/09/18 at 05:12:15:
Hi all, just wondering, for my dutch players out there, so you prefer the stone wall or classical and why? I used to play the stone wall but been trying the classical for a little bit and do not know what to choose. Like to hear the more experienced players opinions about them. Thanks.

I started playing the 7...Qe8 lines of the classical a couple of years ago as i was looking for a relatively straightforward opening (aim for a kingside hack, attacking plans similar to in the grand prix attack/ austrian attack in Pirc) i could get on the board regularly (i play via the 1...e6 move order) and could adopt against an english set up.

I was tempted to play the stonewall but felt that it could only be played in a fewer situations. However, i am now looking at taking up the stone wall in addition to the classical because in some positions black is recommended to go into a stone wall set up and i think it is good to get used to those positions.

I find with the classical the positions can get quite messy against players at my level which helps me a bit as i am always in time trouble so the mess helps me sometimes get out through tactical means.
  

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Stone wall or classical dutch?
07/09/18 at 05:12:15
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Hi all, just wondering, for my dutch players out there, so you prefer the stone wall or classical and why? I used to play the stone wall but been trying the classical for a little bit and do not know what to choose. Like to hear the more experienced players opinions about them. Thanks.
  
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