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Re: Line not mentioned in Mayhem in Morra
Reply #5 - 11/14/18 at 08:47:05
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Not to mention I found two (2) games with it in the ChessBase online database.
  
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Re: Line not mentioned in Mayhem in Morra
Reply #4 - 11/14/18 at 07:21:19
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It is a legal move, but that is all that can be said for it. Bad square, does not develop minor pieces or open lines for any, but leaves queen open to attack.
In that sense, something like 2...h6 may be less harmful.

Qb6 can be kinda played when a) the bishop is already out (see Najdorf PP, Vaganian Gambit of Tromp) or b) when there is a fianchetto, so it adds a little pressure.

Here it's just a bad move. Bad. That's why it is not mentioned. Next...
  
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Re: Line not mentioned in Mayhem in Morra
Reply #3 - 11/13/18 at 07:34:02
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an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 11/13/18 at 05:02:22:
1.e4 c5 2.d4 Qb6 3.d5 looks like a Trompowsky with black missing a few tempi since the wB/c1 did not make any moves. White often gambits the b2-pawn in that opening, but here it is hardly necessary. After a typical Trompowsky deployment 3...g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Nbd2 the "weak pawn on b2" is, not surprisingly, quite robust.


In a more old-school vein, it's like a Schmid Benoni in which Black has offered up his queen as a target for White's classical idea of putting a knight on c4.
  
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Re: Line not mentioned in Mayhem in Morra
Reply #2 - 11/13/18 at 05:02:22
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HagenWatch1 wrote on 11/13/18 at 01:34:17:
2...Qb6?! The point is this move by Black puts immediate pressure on the d4 pawn. ...

Since white was going to gambit the d4 pawn anyway, it's not much of a point. Either 3.c3 or 3.Nf3 would be consistent for the Morra gambiteer.

1.e4 c5 2.d4 Qb6 3.d5 looks like a Trompowsky with black missing a few tempi since the wB/c1 did not make any moves. White often gambits the b2-pawn in that opening, but here it is hardly necessary. After a typical Trompowsky deployment 3...g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Nbd2 the "weak pawn on b2" is, not surprisingly, quite robust.
  
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Re: Line not mentioned in Mayhem in Morra
Reply #1 - 11/13/18 at 02:15:14
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1) Why aren't we playing 3 dc5 - ?
2) After 1 d4 c5 2 d5 g6 3 e4, 3...Qb6 probably wouldn't be Black's first choice.
  
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Line not mentioned in Mayhem in Morra
11/13/18 at 01:34:17
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I'm curious why this line isn't essayed as either good or bad in Mayhem in the Morra...

1.e4 c5 2.d4 and now Black responds with 2...Qb6?! The point is this move by Black puts immediate pressure on the d4 pawn. White can't reply 3.Be3? because of 3...Qxb2 picking up the pawn hanging on b2. And if White replies 3.d5 Black responds with 3...g6 with the intention of putting the bishop on g7 hitting the weak pawn on b2. Any thoughts on this line against the Morra?
  
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