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Re: From's Gambit 4...Nf6
Reply #9 - 01/01/05 at 19:43:18
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As far as I can see, there are two main lines in the From's Gambit: 4...g5 and 4...Nf6. Instinctively I have always preferred the latter.
  
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Re: From's Gambit 4...Nf6
Reply #8 - 12/31/04 at 15:26:19
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Is 4 ... Nf6 regarded as the mainline in the From?  What about 4 ... g5, which seems to get a fair bit of attention?  It seems to me that White's development frequently mirrors lines from the 4 ... Nf6 line, but White can often play an early d4 (instead of g3).  Thoughts?   ???
  
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Re: From's Gambit 4...Nf6
Reply #7 - 12/28/04 at 23:15:56
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As I have mentioned in another thread, Thomas Johansson on his website has also two articles on this line via the transposition 1.e4 e5 2.f4 Bc5 3.Nf3 d6 4.fxe5 dxe5 etc.
See <http://hem.passagen.se/tjmisha/tartakowers5c3.html>;
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<http://hem.passagen.se/tjmisha/rushandpush.html>;
Of course the rest of the site is also worth investigating.
  
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Re: From's Gambit 4...Nf6
Reply #6 - 12/28/04 at 22:58:25
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While doing some research on the From, I came across this website that offers some interesting analysis on a variety of Bird lines, and seems to prefer to declining the From: 1 f4 e5 2 fxe5 d6 3 Nf3.

Thoughts?

The website is at: http://www.geocities.com/drawyah/FromGD.txt
  
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Re: From's Gambit 4...Nf6
Reply #5 - 09/18/04 at 18:10:39
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Sorry, DragonSlayer, typo. Still 7.Bg5 is not mine, but Bannink's.
  
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Re: From's Gambit 4...Nf6
Reply #4 - 09/18/04 at 07:23:38
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MNb, the line you give is impossible. I suppose you mean 5.g3 h5 6.d4 h4 7.Bg5.
The games demonstrate that 5.g3 h5 6.Bg2? h4 is losing for White, whereas 5.g3 h5 6.d4! is a little better for White.
My idea was to play 6.d4 h4 7.gxh4 Ne4 8.Qd3 Bf5 9.Bh3 Bh7 10.Qb5+ Nc6 which is far from winning for White. 10.Rg1 is better but not winning.
MNb's 7.Bg5 is more troublesome and I would now prefer 6...Ng4.
Unfortunately, some Schmuck has borrowed all my stuff on the From's gambit and not delivered it back so I cannot check my old analysis just yet.
  
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Re: From's Gambit 4...Nf6
Reply #3 - 09/16/04 at 12:00:57
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I agree 6...h4 seems like a faulty plan and I also agree that the position is not clear.... but it is not clear and White is a pawn up, I think he should be better. If it was that good it would be played more by Black.
  
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Re: From's Gambit 4...Nf6
Reply #2 - 09/15/04 at 21:41:25
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It has been a long time, since I payed attention to the From's Gambit. But I always thought that 1.f4 e5 2.fxe5 d6 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.g3 h5 6.Bg2 h4 was inferior, because of 6.Bg2 h4 7.Bg5! Bannink-Timmerman,1991. Instead Black has 6...Ng4 or 5...Nc6 or 5...Ng4.
To me the 5.g3 is hardly clear.
  
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Re: From's Gambit 4...Nf6
Reply #1 - 09/14/04 at 10:30:33
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After 9...Bh7 surely Qb5+ is just winning for White. or even Rg1.
Overall though, do you agree that this line is bad for Black ur games seems to agree with that assessment (assuming White plays well)
  
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From's Gambit 4...Nf6
09/12/04 at 12:25:46
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Replying to TomR's post on the Bird's opening in Daring defences to 1.d4.
Regarding the variation 1.f4 e5 2.fxe5 d6 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.Nf4 Nf6 5.g3 I have two recent games:

Jensen,T - Jensen,M
rapid game Nyborg DEN, 1999

1.f4 e5 2.fxe5 d6 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.g3 h5 6.Bg2? h4 7.Nxh4 Rxh4 8.gxh4 Ng4 (or 8...Ne4 Cifuentes) 9.0-0 Bxh2+ 10.Kh1 Qxh4 11.Rf3 Nf2+ 12.Rxf2 Bg3+ 13.Kg1 Bxf2+ 14.Kf1 Qg3 15.Nc3 Bh3 16.Bxh3 Qg1# 0-1

Skjoldager,N - Jensen,M
Farum Weekend DEN 2003

1.f4 e5 2.fxe5 d6 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.g3 h5 6.d4 h4 7.gxh4 Ne4 8.Qd3 Qe7!? 9.Nc3 Nxc3 10.bxc3 c6 (better was 10...Nc6) 11.Bg5 f6 12.Qg6+ Qf7 13.Qxf7+ Kxf7 14.Be3 Nd7 15.Bf2 Nb6 16.e4 Bg4 17.Nd2 Rhe8 18.Bg3 Bxg3+? 19.hxg3 Nd5 20.Be2 Bxe2 21.Kxe2 Nxc3+ 22.Kd3 Na4 23.Rab1 Re7 24.Rhe1 Rd8 25.Nb3 b6 26.c4 Nc5+ 27.Nxc5 bxc5 28.d5 cxd5 29.exd5 Rxe1 30.Rxe1 Rb8 31.Re6 Rb4 32.Ra6 Rb7 33.Rc6 Kg6 34.Rxc5 Kf5 35.Kd4 Kg4 36.d6 Kxg3 37.Rd5 1-0

Of course 8...Bf5 9.Bh3 Bh7! is better, but I had a miserable tournament.
  
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