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Re: King Gambit
Reply #12 - 07/11/06 at 14:44:13
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woofwoof wrote on 06/23/06 at 16:19:49:
Opinions still vary abt 3.Ktf3. For some they say its a forced draw (at least that's how I understand MNb's & TJ's opinions. Correct me if I'm wrong, guys  Embarrassed) Others say that the Fischer Defense refutes 3.Ktf3. Tho TJ's book does give some interesting suggestions to play against the Fischer Defense w/o having to go into its mainline where white eventually retreats his Kt to g1 Tongue. Fischer went so far as to say his defence refutes the KG! Yet there are still others who say that white's more favourable pawn formation should lead to a won ending. Of course the anti-gambit guys have nothing good to say abt anything KG.
But generally so far the opinion is that 3.Bc4 is the sharpest at white's disposal &  based on the FKG thread, does offer white better chances to play for a win.


3.Nf3 is not a forced draw. It leads to unique positions in which Black is not worse - which of course is not the same thing as a forced draw Wink

3.Bc4 is generally not sharp. There are some sharp lines (I like 3...f5!? personally), but the main defence 3...Nf6 4.Nc3 c6 is not one of them. And really this is the main drawback of the Bishop's Gambit: it positively encourages Black to play ...d7-d5, which leads to rather one-dimensional positions; i.e. not in the spirit of the King's Gambit.
  

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Re: King Gambit
Reply #11 - 07/11/06 at 14:37:47
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TalJechin wrote on 06/25/06 at 08:48:44:
KGA 3.Nf3 isn't refuted, but it's a narrow path to messy positions that frequently turn out to be forced draws when you start fritz...  Undecided


my advice: don't study the king's gambit too deeply and don't use fritz Wink

the KG is an opening you should just play Smiley
  

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Re: King Gambit
Reply #10 - 07/11/06 at 14:35:50
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my favourites...

Johansson - The King's Gambit for the Creative Aggressor (Schachverlag Kania 1998)
Gallagher - Winning with the King's Gambit (Batsford 1992)
Glazkov & Estrin - Korolevskii Gambit (Fizkultura i Sport 1988)
Bücker - Das Neue Königsgambit (Franckh 1986)

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Re: King Gambit
Reply #9 - 06/26/06 at 18:03:31
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TheDalaiLamer wrote on 06/25/06 at 22:09:33:
The minor flaws with that book is that:

1) The paucity of King's Gambit declined lines (one small chapter)

No. There is a chapter on KGD 2...Bc5 & a chapter devoted to the Falkbeer & a chapter to the Nimzowitsch counter gambit which is coming from a Falkbeer. So actually you've got 3 chapters.

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2) It only covers the Knight's King's Gambit. If you want to play the Bishop's Gambit you will have to look elsewhere.


Spot on! Thats where TJ's FKG comes in.
  

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Re: King Gambit
Reply #8 - 06/25/06 at 22:09:33
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I agree with other poster who recommended the Gallagher King's Gambit book.

The minor flaws with that book is that:

1) The paucity of King's Gambit declined lines (one small chapter)
2) It only covers the Knight's King's Gambit. If you want to play the Bishop's Gambit you will have to look elsewhere.
  
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Re: King Gambit
Reply #7 - 06/25/06 at 08:48:44
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If you haven't played the KG before, then the Bishop's gambit should be a good starting point. You'll have more viable main line choices and the resulting positions from most main defences have a similar feel.  Smiley

KGA 3.Nf3 isn't refuted, but it's a narrow path to messy positions that frequently turn out to be forced draws when you start fritz...  Undecided
  
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Re: King Gambit
Reply #6 - 06/23/06 at 21:16:37
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Thank you everyone for yours responses Smiley About the Gallagher's book, I had the chance to read it a bit (it's in my father's home), but I think it's a bit out of date in somes lines no, even if it's still a good work and good introduction to the KG!
  
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Re: King Gambit
Reply #5 - 06/23/06 at 20:09:52
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I don't have much to add to the previous posts. If ArKheiN has enough time at his disposal, he should buy both Thomas Johansson's book on the KG, visit his website and check the many, many threads below. On this site the last theoretical state of the KG is indeed: everybody disagrees.  Cool
  

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Re: King Gambit
Reply #4 - 06/23/06 at 16:19:49
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ArKheiN wrote on 06/23/06 at 12:01:30:
Hello everyone here, I would like to know what is the best book on the King Gambit where the theory would still be actual and accurate? And for the specialists of the King Gambit here, do you think the King Gambit is something unclear/equal at worst for White and objectively, what would be best between 1.e4 e5 2.f4 fxe4 3.Nf3 and 3.Bc4, both equal? I have always been interested by this gambit, but if I work on it, it would be seriously...Thank you for the futures responses Smiley


For newer books, I'd suggest TJ's Creative aggressor for 3. Nf3 & his FKG for 3.Bc4. The rest just doesnt seem to be impressive enough based on the reviews. Neil Macdonald's KG book doesnt seem to convey confidence to white's side of things, neither are most of the reviews on his book very positive. There is also a book by Raingruber but it doesnt seem to give enough attn to the Kieseritsky. Frankly there arent many books on the KG since its not one of those highly popular openings, so which also means theoretical advancement isnt so rapid hence even some older books are still very useful.

Of the older books one of the very best is Gallagher's Winning with the KG- has raving reviews all around. Trouble is its out of print & some places are charging high prices for it. I was very fortunate to find 1 over at eBay for abt US$17. The 2 volume books by Estrin & Glaskov-Play the KG(Vol 1 for Accepted & Vol2  for Declined) are quite well presented. They might be someewhat dated but they do get into the essence of things very well & written on the white perspective, which is very impt imo.

Also helpful would be the collection of Bronstein's games. Definitely a nomber of KG games to look at & relish the potential behind this archaic opening

Opinions still vary abt 3.Ktf3. For some they say its a forced draw (at least that's how I understand MNb's & TJ's opinions. Correct me if I'm wrong, guys  Embarrassed) Others say that the Fischer Defense refutes 3.Ktf3. Tho TJ's book does give some interesting suggestions to play against the Fischer Defense w/o having to go into its mainline where white eventually retreats his Kt to g1 Tongue. Fischer went so far as to say his defence refutes the KG! Yet there are still others who say that white's more favourable pawn formation should lead to a won ending. Of course the anti-gambit guys have nothing good to say abt anything KG.
But generally so far the opinion is that 3.Bc4 is the sharpest at white's disposal &  based on the FKG thread, does offer white better chances to play for a win.
  

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Re: King Gambit
Reply #3 - 06/23/06 at 13:50:15
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Yes: I suppose that TJ's book is a shorter and easier read than the thread at this point...   Undecided
  

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Re: King Gambit
Reply #2 - 06/23/06 at 13:30:58
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HgMan wrote on 06/23/06 at 13:27:07:
You should find your answer by reading through The Fascinating King's Gambit thread below...


Not a good recommendation, though, if you only have limited time for study  Roll Eyes
  

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Re: King Gambit
Reply #1 - 06/23/06 at 13:27:07
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You should find your answer by reading through The Fascinating King's Gambit thread below...
  

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King Gambit
06/23/06 at 12:01:30
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Hello everyone here, I would like to know what is the best book on the King Gambit where the theory would still be actual and accurate? And for the specialists of the King Gambit here, do you think the King Gambit is something unclear/equal at worst for White and objectively, what would be best between 1.e4 e5 2.f4 fxe4 3.Nf3 and 3.Bc4, both equal? I have always been interested by this gambit, but if I work on it, it would be seriously...Thank you for the futures responses Smiley
  
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