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Antidotes to the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit (Read 27501 times)
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Re: Antidotes to the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit
Reply #270 - 10/15/09 at 00:50:30
 
In my occasional games with the BDG (usually via the move-order 1.e4 d5 2.d4) I always answered 2...dxe4 3.Nc3 e5 with 4.Nxe4 and never encountered a major problem.   I always thought that the main line after 4...exd4 was 5.Bb5+ c6 6.Qe2 as Lev gives above, but 5.Nf3 (which I've also played before) certainly looks very interesting and in some ways reminiscent of the Scotch Gambit (the pawn structure is much the same).

3...f5 was discussed in an earlier thread.  If I remember rightly White was able to obtain approximate equality by playing 4.Bg5 first, before f3, and then steering play into lines of the 4.f3 Staunton.  It's a pretty good line to try though as I guess most Whites will think it looks dubious but then be surprised at how hard it is to refute.
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Re: Antidotes to the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit
Reply #271 - 10/15/09 at 09:50:19
 
Like I said subjective =+ tells which side you find easier to play. Still you can try to convince others.

Stefan Buecker wrote on 10/14/09 at 21:28:47:
3...e5 4.Nxe4 Nc6 5.Nf3. It's a normal position, and you can study it for many hours without finding a clear evaluation. That's not what I'd call easy equality.


The ending after 5...f5 6.Ng3 e4 7.d5 ef seems equal.
A funny line is 5...Bg4 6.Bb5 Qd5 7.Qe2 Bf3 8.gf 0-0-0 9.Bc6 Qc6 10.de f6   Cool

SWJediknight wrote on 10/14/09 at 14:44:27:
But I am yet to find anything conclusive to suggest =+ even in the BDG- we discussed lines like 5...c6 6.Bg5 e6 7.Nh4!? and 5...Bf5 6.Bd3!? (an idea borrowed from the Soller Gambit) earlier for example.


I assume you mean 5...c6 6.Bc4 Bf5 7.Bg5 e6 8.Nh4 although I can never be sure with BDG players.
8...Bg6 9.Ng6 hg 10.Qd3 Qa5 11.h4 Nd7 (Qxg5!?) 12.000 000 13.Qe2 Nb6 I saw in Stefan's column: a standard position.

Compared to 5...Bf5 6.Bd3, the important Black bishop guardian of f7 has been exchanged with the white knight.
So we haven't Ne5 headaches. Whether Black can make progress is an interesting strategical question.
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Re: Antidotes to the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit
Reply #272 - 10/15/09 at 12:02:35
 
Now let's compare Gutman's with the line 5...Bg4 6.h3 Bh5 7.g4 Bg6 8.Ne5 e6 9.Bg5!? c6 10.Ng6 hg.

Black's bishop got to g6 in three moves (g4-h5-g6) instead of two (f5-g6) but White played h3+g4 instead of h4.

If White wants to castle long, he'll want to play a further h3-h4 to have Gutman's Rh3 on ...Bb4.
But then it turns out he spent a whole tempo on g4 which he could regret.

So this appears a clever way to avoid long castlings.
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