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Holbox Senior Member Offline Saigón Café Posts: 363	1.b4 : Theory & Practice of the Sokolsky Opening 06/05/09 at 12:31:33 What do you know about this book? Is the setup (d6,e5,f5) recomended by J&T in their explosive repetoire book covered? Thx
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tafl Senior Member Offline Posts: 331 Norway Gender:	Re: 1.b4 : Theory & Practice of the Sokolsky Opening Reply #1 - 06/15/09 at 14:14:26 There is a kind of review at The Chess Mind: http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/book_reviews/. Evidently the world is still waiting for the definitive Sokolsky book.
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Re: 1.b4 : Theory & Practice of the Sokolsky Opening
Reply #2 - 06/28/09 at 23:31:31

Holbox wrote on 06/05/09 at 12:31:33:

What do you know about this book? Is the setup (d6,e5,f5) recomended by J&T in their explosive repetoire book covered?

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Concerning An Explosive Chess Opening Repertoire for Black and its anti-Sokolsky line in Chapter 29 B): 1.b4 d6 2.Bb2 e5 3.c4 f5.

The new book, The Sokolsky Opening: 1.b4 in Theory & Practice, deals with the line in detail in Chapter 8. Moreover, the book's annotated illustrative games number 39, 45, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79 and 80 start with those moves (or reach the position).

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Reply #3 - 06/29/09 at 14:11:15

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Concerning An Explosive Chess Opening Repertoire for Black and its anti-Sokolsky line in Chapter 29 B): 1.b4 d6 2.Bb2 e5 3.c4 f5.

The new book, The Sokolsky Opening: 1.b4 in Theory & Practice, deals with the line in detail in Chapter 8. Moreover, the book's annotated illustrative games number 39, 45, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79 and 80 start with those moves (or reach the position).

It sounds really interesting because IMHO this is the Sokolsky's "refutation", if ever it exists. I can't find any tangible advantage in this line.

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Reply #4 - 06/29/09 at 17:42:29

Holbox wrote on 06/29/09 at 14:11:15:

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Concerning An Explosive Chess Opening Repertoire for Black and its anti-Sokolsky line in Chapter 29 B): 1.b4 d6 2.Bb2 e5 3.c4 f5.

The new book, The Sokolsky Opening: 1.b4 in Theory & Practice, deals with the line in detail in Chapter 8. Moreover, the book's annotated illustrative games number 39, 45, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79 and 80 start with those moves (or reach the position).

It sounds really interesting because IMHO this is the Sokolsky's "refutation", if ever it exists. I can't find any tangible advantage in this line.

The Sokolsky's refutation exists, and it is 1...e5 =+. Well, that is perhaps slightly exaggerated, but not much.

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Holbox Senior Member Offline Saigón Café Posts: 363	Re: 1.b4 : Theory & Practice of the Sokolsky Opening Reply #5 - 06/29/09 at 19:05:50 Quote: The Sokolsky's refutation exists, and it is 1...e5 =+. Well, that is perhaps slightly exaggerated, but not much. Ok! but in that case I like to play the white side and that mades all the difference.
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nyoke God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 532 BELGIUM Gender:	Re: 1.b4 : Theory & Practice of the Sokolsky Opening Reply #7 - 07/22/09 at 07:14:36 Oh that's really comforting ! So Black does not obtain more than equality ... Then, why play the Sokolsky ?
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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 7593 Moengo Gender:	Re: 1.b4 : Theory & Practice of the Sokolsky Opening Reply #8 - 07/22/09 at 22:01:50 To prove that White can equalize with 1.b4.
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nyoke God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 532 BELGIUM Gender:	Re: 1.b4 : Theory & Practice of the Sokolsky Opening Reply #9 - 07/23/09 at 05:50:17 Oh I see, from an academical viewpoint... I never doubted the viability of the Sokolsky; there's plenty of theory with this 'b4/b5'-strategy thrown in. Had just hoped there would something more in it.
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Reply #10 - 07/23/09 at 22:11:14

If there was we would see 1.b4 more often on toplevel, don't you think? I am not at all against playing stuff like 1.b4 and 1.f4 on amateur level. I mean, I have had great fun with the Danish Gambit and the Morra Gambit. It is just silly to suggest that such openings fall in the same category as the Ruy Lopez.

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Reply #11 - 07/24/09 at 11:20:48

MNb wrote on 07/23/09 at 22:11:14:

If there was we would see 1.b4 more often on toplevel, don't you think? I am not at all against playing stuff like 1.b4 and 1.f4 on amateur level. I mean, I have had great fun with the Danish Gambit and the Morra Gambit. It is just silly to suggest that such openings fall in the same category as the Ruy Lopez.

Exactly. 1.b4 and 1.f4 for example are both openings with equal play.

1.e4 or 1.d4 seem slightly better for white.

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[Event "CZE-ch"]&&[Site "Turnov"]&&[Date "1996"]&&[Round "10"]&&[White "Vokac,Marek"]&&[Black "Bazant,Petr Sr"]&&[Eco "A00"]&&1.b4 d5 2.Bb2 Nd7 3.Nf3 Ngf6 4.e3 g6 5.c4 dxc4 6.Bxc4 Bg7 7.Bxf7+&&1-0

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Reply #12 - 07/25/09 at 22:59:25

To be more precise : the Xanov variation of the Yanitch line seems to offer better prospects after White's move 25. Befote that tehre is plenty of sidelines that are given an = evaluation, and two years from now this better prospects point will heve shifted to move 31.

I've written it before : from an economical point of view this is sheer madness. A man that starts digging in a square meter of farmland stands a better chance of finding something worth the trouble than a chess player delving into a so called better line.

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Reply #13 - 02/01/10 at 13:46:58

Hi people,

before deciding if i should get this book. I would like to know if this line is included in its analysis (from a white's point of view of course):

1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 Bxb4 3.Bxe5 Nf6 4.c4 Nc6 5.Bb2 0-0 6.e3 d5 7.cd Qxd5!? (my evaluation) 8.Bxf6?! (my evaluation after yesterday's game) gf

I shoud be almost lost here

In that game, played yesterday, I continued with 9.Ne2 Bf5 10.Nc3 Qa5 11.Qb3 Rfe8 12.a3 Rad8 13.Qb2 Bxc3 Qxc3 and finally, after a bit of swindelling white, me, won the game.

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Reply #14 - 02/01/10 at 14:21:54

Holbox wrote on 02/01/10 at 13:46:58:

before deciding if i should get this book. I would like to know if this line is included in its analysis (from a white's point of view of course):

1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 Bxb4 3.Bxe5 Nf6 4.c4 Nc6 5.Bb2 0-0 6.e3 d5 7.cd Qxd5!? (my evaluation)

The line does happen to get a (very short) mention in the book (in the notes to Game 89), though there are better reasons for buying the book than that.

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