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Re: 2 Semi-Slav Questions
Reply #3 - 07/11/10 at 20:00:23
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I used to play 2...e6 to get into the Semi-Slav, but now I much prefer 2...c6.  It has only 1 drawback--the Exchange Slav--but it avoids all other move order issues and the Catalan, etc.  Personally I recommend just dealing with the Black side of the Exchange Slav; Black's position should be better there, in theory, than in the 4.Bg5 line give above or in the Catalan.  The time and effort you put into working out a few lines against the Exchange Slav will be much less what you have to work out against the Catalan + other deviations.

I agree that 4...Bg4 is a good way of fighting 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.e3.
  
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Re: 2 Semi-Slav Questions
Reply #2 - 07/11/10 at 09:14:23
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It's hard to avoid dullness if white wants it. If 4...Bf5 is not to your liking, then 4...Bg4 is an equally viable alternative.
  
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Re: 2 Semi-Slav Questions
Reply #1 - 07/11/10 at 08:59:47
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I think these are good questions, and I play these move orders as white myself.

If you are happy with the Moscow Semi-Slav then 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Bg5 h6 should be OK. 5. Bxf6 Qxf6 will transpose to the Moscow after 6. Nc3 c6, and if 6. e3 you can play 6...Qd8 which will probably also transpose to a Moscow line, or for example 6...Bb4+.

In your second line there is nothing to stop you from developing in normal Semi-Slav style with 5...Nbd7 followed by Bd6, OO, b6, Bb7 and so on. Vigorito doesn't care to face white's Colle-Zukertort setup with Nbd2, b3, Bb2 and maybe one day Ne5, but that's his personal preference; black's position is perfectly playable. (I should admit that with black I happen to share IM Vigorito's preference for 4...Bf5  and I've scored quite well with it.)
  
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2 Semi-Slav Questions
07/10/10 at 21:45:13
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Larry Kaufman in his book "The Chess Advantage in Black and White" recommends playing the Semi-Slav via the ...e6 move-order. After 1 d5 d5 2 c4 e6 3 Nf3 Nf6, he doesn't consider the move 4 Bg5, which I know is recommended in Richard Pallier's book "Play 1 d4". I don't see how Black can transpose to the Semi-Slav here. Do you know anyway Black can totranspose to the Semi-Slav here? I was thinking 4...c5 may be an ok alternative if you can't transpose to the Semi-Slav. What does Pallier think about this move in his book?

In David Vigoritio's book "Play the Semi-Slav", he recommends playing the Semi-Slav via the ...c6 move-order. After 1 d4 d5 2 c4 c6 3 Nf3 Nf6 4 e3, he recommends 4...Bf5 because 4...e6 allows 5 Bd3 and he thinks Black's best is to transpose to the dull main line of the Queen's Gambit Accepted with 5...dxc4 6 Bxc4 c5 and he obviously didn't want to cover that in a Semi-Slav book. I would prefer to play 4...e6, if Black has a sound and ambitious way to meet 5 Bd3, over the more dull 4...Bf5 which I think should be left to more dull Slav Players. Do you know of any sound and ambitious way to meet 5 Bd3?
  
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