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Classical - ChessPub Forum https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?board=cladra Classical - ChessPub Forum en-us ChessPub Forum Sat, 16 May 2026 05:04:23 GMT http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 30 help me. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1515742112 ChessPub Forum/Classical https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1515742112 Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:28:32 GMT 1.e4.c5 2. nf3d6 3.d4cd 4.nd4 nf6 5. nc3 g6 6be2 bg7 7.00 nc6 8nb3 00 9re1 a6 10.bf1 b5 11 nd5 e6 (nd7 12bg5 h6 bh4 g5 bg3 e6 may be better)12nf6 bf6 13 c3 qc7 14bh6 rd8 15qf3 be7 16qg3 e5 17 f4 ef 18bf4 be6 19nc5 be5 20nd3bg7 .5-.5 78 moves complete score on icc interesting game ending in perpetual check of white any comments on nd7 idea would be nice. eric game is from denker memorial I have 1.5 of 2 with black lost to becerra 2570 and gonzalez 2520 should of won that one time pressure got me drsgon is keeping me alive just want a yugoslav attack thogh Bc4 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1238629317 ChessPub Forum/Classical https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1238629317 Mon, 21 Aug 2017 07:15:57 GMT <a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1238629317/4#4">TN wrote</a> on 08/21/17 at 06:52:30: <div id="350904311304120415120E07535051516100">It's slightly more venomous than 6.g3 and probably equivalent to 6.f4, but not as good as 9.Bc4 and especially 9.0-0-0. You might note that with reversed colours, 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.g3 d5 5.cxd5 Nxd5 6.Bg2 Bc5!? has recently become trendy, so with an extra tempo it can't be bad! </div> I noticed Grischuk playing that (and then saw it in the Flank Openings update), but presumably it hasn't appeared in a repertoire book, so does it really exist? New possible trend https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1377255192 ChessPub Forum/Classical https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1377255192 Fri, 23 Aug 2013 22:40:09 GMT That would mean that the accurate way to play the Dragadorf is 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 6.Be3 Bg7 7.f3 a6. Note: Bragesjo writes about 5...a6 6.Be3 g6 7.Be2 Bg7 8.Qd2. Suggestion for Non-Yugoslav variation vs Dragon https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1342027932 ChessPub Forum/Classical https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1342027932 Sat, 30 Mar 2013 14:57:37 GMT <a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1342027931/11#11">Glenn Snow wrote</a> on 03/30/13 at 10:23:32: <div id="5A62637E636368616A0D01">For something really solid one could try an offhand suggestion of Watson. Use the classical system that Black plays when confronted with the English (Be2,f3). Not that inspiring but might work against the aggressive Dragon player. </div> Well, in the English case, ...f6 can come after a3 and b4; in the (unreversed) Classical Dragon, f3 by White could lead to Black quickly playing ...d5. An idea of Euwe's was 6. Be2 Bg7 7. 0-0 Nc6 8. Nb3 0-0 9. f3. In the 1970s, David Levy wrote in his Dragon book that Black gets good play by 9...Be6 10. Nd5 Bxd5 11. ed Nb4, meeting c4 or Bc4 with ...b5. B70 Giri - Hou https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1358599080 ChessPub Forum/Classical https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1358599080 Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:37:59 GMT Since there is not that much activery at this forum I post a game I saw tody that was played yesterday in the Tata Steel torunament, <div><object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://chessflash.com/releases/latest/ChessFlash.swf" width="100%" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://chessflash.com/releases/latest/ChessFlash.swf" /><param name="flashvars" value='orientation=H&tabmode=true&light=FFE7AC&dark=0072b9&bordertext=494949&headerforeground=ffffff&mtforeground=666666&mtvariations=FF0000&mtmainline=000000&mtbackground=ffffff&dark=AF7A53&background=ffffff&pgndata=[Event "75th Tata Steel GpA"] [Site "Wijk aan Zee NED"] [Date "2013.01.18"] [Round "6"] [White "Giri, A."] [Black "Hou, Yifan"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "B70"] [WhiteElo "2720"] [BlackElo "2603"] [PlyCount "180"] [EventDate "2013.01.12"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. g3 Nc6 {Bg7 is considere d less accutare sicne if white has played Bg2, Nxc6 followed by e5 may be problematic} 7. Nde2 {mainline} (7. Bg2 {is not good since after} Nxd4 8. Qxd4 Bg7 9. O-O O-O {white will soon have to move the Queen again}) 7... Bd7 { interestning plan. Black wants to see where white puts hes pieces before commiing to Bg7} 8. Bg2 Qc8 9. h3 Bg7 10. a4 O-O 11. Bg5 Re8 12. Qd2 Ne5 13. b3 {prevents Nc4. Since black can no double at c file quickly the move looks very logical} Rb8 14. Ra2 (14. g4 {is probebly better, intending to castle}) 14... Nc6 15. Nd5 a5 16. c3 b5 17. axb5 Rxb5 18. Qd1 Qb8 19. Ra3 Nxd5 20. exd5 Ne5 21. O-O a4 (21... Bxh3 {does not work since} 22. Bxh3 Nf3+ 23. Kg2 Nxg5 24. Bd7 ) 22. Nd4 (22. bxa4 {was probebly a better plan but after} Rc5 23. a5 Nc4 { black positon looks preferable}) 22... Rxb3 $15 23. Nxb3 Nc4 24. Nc5 dxc5 25. Ra1 Qe5 (25... Bxc3 {is a computer suggestion} 26. Rc1 Nb2 27. Qf3 Bb4 $17 { black is better}) 26. Bf4 Qxc3 27. Qe2 Na5 28. Rac1 Qb4 29. Bd2 Qb6 30. Bc3 Nb3 31. Qb2 a3 (31... Rb8 $19 {is more simply when black is simply winninng}) 32. Qxa3 Nxc1 33. Rxc1 Bxc3 34. Qxc3 Rc8 35. Qe3 Qd6 36. Re1 Re8 37. Rc1 Rc8 38. Re1 e6 39. dxe6 Bxe6 40. Bf1 c4 41. Qc3 Qf8 42. Rxe6 $5 fxe6 43. Bxc4 Rc6 44. Qd4 Qc8 45. Be2 Rc1+ 46. Kg2 Rc2 47. Qe4 $4 Qc6 48. Qxc6 Rxc6 49. f4 Kg7 50. h4 Rc2 51. Kf3 Rc3+ 52. Kf2 Kf6 53. Bg4 Rc5 54. Bh3 Rc2+ 55. Ke3 Ke7 56. Bg4 Kd6 57. Bf3 Rc3+ 58. Kf2 Rc5 59. Be4 Ra5 60. Bb7 Kc5 61. Ke3 Ra3+ 62. Kf2 Kd4 63. Bc6 Ra7 64. Ke2 Rc7 65. Ba8 h6 66. Kf2 g5 67. fxg5 hxg5 68. Kf3 gxh4 69. gxh4 Ke5 70. h5 Rh7 71. Kg4 Rg7+ 72. Kh4 Kf5 73. h6 Rg8 74. Bf3 e5 75. Bd5 Rd8 76. h7 Rh8 77. Bg8 e4 78. Kg3 Ke5 79. Kf2 Kd4 80. Ke2 e3 81. Ke1 Kd3 82. Be6 e2 83. Bg4 Ke3 84. Bxe2 Rxh7 85. Kf1 Rf7+ {white resigned here becouse of} 86. Ke1 Rf2 87. Bd3 (87. Bg4 Rg2 88. Bh3 Rg1+ 89. Bf1 Rh1) 87... Rh2 88. Bb5 Rb2 89. Ba4 Rb1+ 90. 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He covers the Alekhine attack and Karpovs classical Be2 Bg5 plan. B72-B75: Exploiting 8.a4 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1265864488 ChessPub Forum/Classical https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1265864488 Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:34:08 GMT <a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1265864487/11#11">bragesjo wrote</a> on 09/21/11 at 14:29:22: <div id="011102040610090C6302">Also, if you want to post a game, use the new pgn function and enter the game data there </div> Thanks for doing my job. <img rel=":-)" src="https://www.chesspub.com/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif" alt="Smiley" title="Smiley" /> You are right. Classical Dragon with Qd2 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1277371094 ChessPub Forum/Classical https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1277371094 Mon, 9 Aug 2010 14:07:07 GMT A game that might be of interest, shure only rapid but it is between the 2700 + players GM Kamsky and GM Gashimov. Since Kamsky seems to play this line often maybee we could call the line Kamsky variation <img rel=":-)" src="https://www.chesspub.com/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif" alt="Smiley" title="Smiley" />. [Event "GRENKE Rapid WCh"] [Site "Mainz GER"] [Date "2010.08.08"] [Round "10"] [White "Kamsky, G."] [Black "Gashimov, V."] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "B73"] [WhiteElo "2713"] [BlackElo "2719"] [PlyCount "60"] [EventDate "2010.08.07"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be2 Bg7 7. O-O O-O 8. Be3 Nc6 9. Qd2 Bd7 10. Rfd1 Rc8 11. f3 Ne5 12. a4 a6 13. a5 Qc7 14. Kh1 Nc4 15. Bxc4 Qxc4 16. Nde2 Qb4 17. Qc1 Qc4 18. Nf4 Be6 19. Rd2 Rfe8 20. Nce2 Qc7 21. b3 Nd7 22. Bd4 Bh6 23. Bb2 d5 24. exd5 Bf5 25. d6 exd6 26. c4 Qc5 27. Qc3 Qe5 28. Qb4 Qc5 29. Qc3 Qe5 30. Qb4 Qc5 1/2-1/2 Here's an classical Dragon with a great score! https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1046632103 ChessPub Forum/Classical https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1046632103 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:35:31 GMT Off-Topic replies have been moved to <a href="http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1277371093/0#0">this Topic</a>. Possilbe new Dragon trend https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1242215966 ChessPub Forum/Classical https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1242215966 Wed, 13 May 2009 19:49:35 GMT I also noted the new trend. BTW The position can also avrive after 6.Bc4 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Nf6 4.Nc3 cxd4 5.Nxd4 g6 6.Bc4 Bg7 7.Bb3 0–0 8.h3 Nc6 9.Be3 I his notes to the game Zhou Weiqi (2469) - Li Chao (2320) tell us that.. "This old way of playing the 'new Classical' is pretty much considered these days to be a little lame and White generally seeks pastures greener for this bishop. If it ends up on g5 instead then White isn't obliged to include h2-h3 so soon in his set-up but obviously he must be careful regarding the situation of his knight on d4." <img rel=":-)" src="https://www.chesspub.com/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif" alt="Smiley" title="Smiley" />