https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?board=engnf English 1...Nf6 - ChessPub Forum en-us ChessPub Forum Sat, 15 Aug 2026 19:28:57 GMT http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 30 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1646161280 ChessPub Forum/English 1...Nf6 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1646161280 Wed, 2 Mar 2022 18:52:40 GMT The Queen's Gambit isn't truly a gambit either in the sense that White can play Qa4+ to win the pawn back right away, but the name has stuck.   https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1597136784 ChessPub Forum/English 1...Nf6 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1597136784 Wed, 20 Oct 2021 13:32:23 GMT There's also Williams and Palliser's <i>Iron English</i>, available both as a book and on Chessable. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1193339403 ChessPub Forum/English 1...Nf6 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1193339403 Sat, 22 Jul 2017 04:44:22 GMT I suppose my position was better than I gave it credit for. I'm not sure why I didn't go for the ...a5 idea - perhaps I felt like I had to play passively because I figured my position was worse than it actually was... https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1369219424 ChessPub Forum/English 1...Nf6 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1369219424 Fri, 24 May 2013 18:52:46 GMT <a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1369219423/4#4">kylemeister wrote</a> on 05/22/13 at 14:48:47:<br /><div id="7F6D787179717D676071661400">Reminds me of a game of Ulf Andersson's in which Black, in the ...g6 version, immediately proceeded to play ...c5?! after the queen exchange. </div><!--7F6D787179717D676071661400--><br /><br />Andersson-Tempone, I think<br /><a href="http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1019906" target="_blank">http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1019906</a><br /><br /><br />I suspect going for the queen exchange give White nothing.  Objectively speaking, that is.  It's more a question of taste - of middlegame type and preference regarding highly theoretical lines.<br /><br />Drawish?  Maybe in some ways.  But compared the main line Grunfelds where some lines burn out to an immediate draw.  You won't get that with dxc3.<br /><br />Unfortunately - as Roger knows - my experience with dxc3 as White is that it's *not* drawish.  I lost both times I tried it. <img rel="&#58;'&#40;" src="https://www.chesspub.com/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/cry.gif" alt="Cry" title="Cry" /> https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1344228910 ChessPub Forum/English 1...Nf6 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1344228910 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:27:56 GMT <a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1344228909/5#5">Markovich wrote</a> on 08/16/12 at 14:25:06:<br /><div id="6945564F4B524D474C2401">I don't know if it has been mentioned, but there was a recent NIC yearbook article devoted to this line. </div><!--6945564F4B524D474C2401--><br /><br />Reading five short posts is not that hard. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1326069337 ChessPub Forum/English 1...Nf6 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1326069337 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:48:17 GMT I don't understand 1 c4 g6 - how will we avoid the Symmetrical?<br /><br />1 c4 g6<br />2 Nc3 c5 per Kaufman, but what if <br />3 g3?<br /><br />Isn't this a main line Symmetrical English? He also says that he doesn't cover 1 g3 because it will almost surely transpose to his 1 .. g6 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1256930093 ChessPub Forum/English 1...Nf6 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1256930093 Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:18:08 GMT Footnote. Annotating his game with Tkachiev on ChessPub, Tony K describes the A36 (...c5 and not ...e5) Botvinnik as solid and a potentially good choice for White if a win isn't necessary. (There are some very good games and notes on this line on the site!) Perhaps then the [i]TDE[/i] note that if ...e5 isn't in it's "better to play something else" should be seen essentially in that (GM-competitive) context. After all it occurs after the sequence 1 c4 g6 2 g3 Bg7 3 Bg2 Nf6 4 Nc3 0-0, when KID transpositions are still possible. But after 5 d3 d6 when they're not, I'd still like to know what line(s) could/should be thought 'superior' to the Botvinnik! (6 Bg5 could be more unbalancing I guess, but better than 6 e4 ...? -- h'mm.) Of course, if Tony himself cared to comment that'd be great! ... https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1233197645 ChessPub Forum/English 1...Nf6 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1233197645 Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:03:51 GMT As Black against closed games I always has been a true defender of  "Grünfeld style" against almost anything. So after 1.c4 I play1.. Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.cxd5 Nxd5 4.g3 g6 5.Bg2 Nxc3 (I use to play 5..Nb6 too but that's not so easy if White play with d3 Be3 Qd2 h4, waiting before playing Nf3, etc) 6.bxc3 Bg7 and after 7.Rb1, I believe 7..c5 to be fully playable despite the results in practice. I have played it 2 times against a 2150 average and none took the challenge of taking the b7-pawn, but that's of course the best move here, so I didn't had problems because I could play with ..Nc6 then with a normal development. So after 7.Rb1 c5, 8.Rxb7 is of course critical, 8..Bxb7 9.Bxb7 Nd7 10.Bxa8 Qxa8 and know 11.f3 or 11.Nf3 has both positives and negatives points. But both have light squares weaknesses, a weak a2 pawn, a not so good bishop c1, so I believe Black has to play some precise moves but can reach dynamical equality and at the end a material and normal equality. That's could be an interesting preparation and I am waiting to play that on a corr game to test the idea. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1228971130 ChessPub Forum/English 1...Nf6 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1228971130 Mon, 5 Jan 2009 07:51:51 GMT I found only 3 games with Nge7 in Mega2009. I checked a little bid the suggested 8.Ndb5, but frankly speaking I do not see any advantage for White after 8.Ndb5 Nf5 9.Bd3 a6 10.Bf5 ab5 11.cb5 ef5 12.bc6 dc6 where Black has pair of bishops for his damage in the pawn structure.<br />More temting is 9.Bf4! Bb4 (9...g5 10.Bd2 a6 11.Nd6 Nd6 12.ed6 Bd6 13.Bg5 Qg5 14.Qd6 +/-) 10.Bd3 a6 11.Nd6 Nd6 12.ed6 Qf6 13.Qd2 Bc3 15.bc3 e5 16.Be3 Qxd6 17.0-0 and White has excellent compensation for the pawn in view of the undeveloped Black pieces. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1203529580 ChessPub Forum/English 1...Nf6 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1203529580 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:46:19 GMT While the mainline is 4.e5!? Ng8 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.c4 cxd4 7.Nxd4 Nxe5 8.Ndb5 a6 9.Nd6+ Bxd6 10.Qxd6, I see quite a few players are choosing 4.Nf3!? Nc6 Be2.<br /><br />How to decide which to play in a particular game?<br /><br />At first I thought 4.e5!? for the win (as in Bacrot-Dorfman, Marseille 2001)  in most cases and 4.Nf3 when I only need a draw (as in Tal-Dorfman, Marseille 1989). But Black has options line 4...b6 which don't lead to a quick draw. So now I'm thinking it's best to simply focus deeper on c5 and only use Nf3 as an occasional surprise. Thoughts?