https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?board=fianc Fianchetto Variation - ChessPub Forum en-us ChessPub Forum Sat, 15 Aug 2026 20:05:37 GMT http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 30 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1278926467 ChessPub Forum/Fianchetto Variation https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1278926467 Fri, 31 Jul 2026 17:13:48 GMT The double fianchetto by black also shows up in Artemiev-Carlsen 2026 analyzed by Brandon Clark in the July 2026 edition of Chess Publishing.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1278926467/15#15">Michael Ayton wrote</a> on 01/20/26 at 18:34:39:<br /><div id="7B7872741500">Or is the traditional …Nbd7 stuff against the Fianchetto now thought so inferior that that may no longer be true? </div><!--7B7872741500--><br />It's recommended by Brandon Clark in the July edition, analyzing the game Grandelius-Seemann, 2026. It's been a long time since I've looked at these lines and I'm rusty on theory. In this game, black delays ...c6 until move 12. In one analyzed line, black does not play ...c6 at all.<br /> https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1412023689 ChessPub Forum/Fianchetto Variation https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1412023689 Sat, 13 Nov 2021 16:52:44 GMT Correction!<br /><br />23...Qb2 gives the advantage to black according to Stockfish. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1615480472 ChessPub Forum/Fianchetto Variation https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1615480472 Thu, 11 Mar 2021 20:51:56 GMT Hi.<br /><br />I have no idea when it comes to both questions. I checked Kotronias but he plays c6 at some point.<br /><br />Here are some corr games (all I could find from 2020+2021) - if you are in to that kind of stuff. Not to many though.<br /><br /><b>1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. c4 d6 4. g3 Bg7 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O Nbd7 7. Nc3 e5 8. e4<br />exd4 9. Nxd4 Re8 10. h3 Nc5 11. Re1 Bd7 12. Kh2 </b><br /><span>12. Rb1 h6 13. Kh2 a5 14. f3 Nh5</span><!--underline--><br />14... c6 15. b3 h5 16. Kg1 Ne6 17. Nde2 Qb8 18. Be3 b5 19. cxb5 cxb5 20.Nd5 Nxd5 21. Qxd5 Ra6 22. Qd2 b4 23. Red1 Bb5 24. Nd4 Nxd4 25. Bxd4 Bxd4+ 26.Qxd4 Rc6 27. Rb2 Rec8 28. Rdd2 Rc1+ 29. Kh2 R8c6 <br />1/2-1/2 Chumanov,V (2336)-Aberbach Peltzman,A (2286) LSS 2020<br /><span>15. f4 Nf6 16. b3 Rc8 17. Ba3 Nfxe4 18. Nxe4 Nxe4 19. Rxe4</span><!--underline--><br />1-0 Ylipartanen,J (2190)-Domingos,A (2045) ICCF 2020<br /><br /><span>12. Bf4 h6 13. Qc2 Nfxe4 14. Nxe4 Bxd4 15. Qd2 Bg7 16. Nxc5 dxc5 17. Rxe8+ Bxe8 18. Bxh6 Qxd2 19. Bxd2 Bd7 20. Rd1 Be6 21. Be3 c6 22. b3 Bd4 23.Bf4 f6 24. h4 Bg4 25. Rd2 Re8 26. Kh2 Re2 27. Bh3</span><!--underline--> <br />1/2-1/2 Price,D (1925)-Williamson,D (2382) ICCF 2020<br /><br /><b>12... h5 13. Rb1 a5 14. b3 c6 15. Bf4 h4 16.Bxd6 hxg3+ 17. fxg3 Bxh3 18. Bxc5 Ng4+ 19. Kg1 Qg5 20. Na4 Qh5 21. Qf3 Bxg2 22.Kxg2 Qh2+ 23. Kf1 Qh3+ 24. Qg2 Qh5 25. Ne2 b5 26. Nf4 Nh2+ 27. Kg1 Nf3+ 28. Kf2</b><br />1/2-1/2 Moujan,P (2258)-Kamanel del Corral,J (2296) ICCF 2021<br /><br />Have a nice day. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1517048759 ChessPub Forum/Fianchetto Variation https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1517048759 Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:06:52 GMT Avrukh has this line but instead of 9. c5 as played by So he follows Cheparinov-Gabuzyan, 2014 with 9.Nf3 d6 and then he gives 10. 0-0N Bd7 11.Qb3 Na6 12.Rac1 += https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1388283541 ChessPub Forum/Fianchetto Variation https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1388283541 Fri, 21 Mar 2014 00:52:17 GMT <a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1388283540/7#7">OrangeCounty wrote</a> on 03/20/14 at 19:43:47:<br /><div id="2E3F2429212C23292A4D01">Well, first of all White doesn't necessarily want to play e2-e4 in the Fianchetto KID at all.  It blocks the bishop, gives Black a target, and loses pawn control of d3,d4,f3, and (not that it usually matters) f4.   </div><!--2E3F2429212C23292A4D01--><br /><br />That's the case  for not playing e4. The case for not playing Nc3 is usually related to reducing Black's option in the event of an attempted transposition to Gruenfeld ideas by the early d5.<br /><br />The importance of these early move order variations is probably over-stated unless you have a very definite idea of what positions you would like to reach and which ones you want to avoid.<br /> https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1343741465 ChessPub Forum/Fianchetto Variation https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1343741465 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:47:10 GMT Donaldson and Hansen in their White repertoire book give ...Nc6 a bit later, and consider it a good try for Black: 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.g3 Bg7 4.Bg2 0-0 5.0-0 d5 6.cxd5 Nxd5 7.Nc3 Nc6 and now 8.Nxd5 Qxd5 9.d3 Qb5 or 8.d4 Nb6 9.d5 Na5 (same as the line gramsci just gave). Is this really so bad for Black? I notice it has been played by strong GMs in recent years. <br /><br />Black can also deviate with 8.d4 Bf5!? which was recommended in a recent S.O.S (No. 14 i believe). https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1325737792 ChessPub Forum/Fianchetto Variation https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1325737792 Thu, 7 Jun 2012 18:52:34 GMT I used to play the Gallagher Variation exclusively when I played the King's Indian, and although I somehow never lost with it (won 2 against two 2400s and drew 2 against two 2400s), I would not play again now it because of the risk. I felt as if my queenside would collapse each move, and it requires very rapid kingside and centre tactics to divert White's attention from the queenside (moves such as ...h5/h4, ...Nxe4, sometimes even ...g5tactics) to balance counterplay whilst maintaining the queenside structure. I still find the variation risky, but I also find the King's Indian complex quite risky as well. Maybe that explains why I play Grünfeld now https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1318024670 ChessPub Forum/Fianchetto Variation https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1318024670 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:13:23 GMT @John Shepherd, thanks for your reply and clarification. That helped me to understand where you were coming from. Initially I was a bit "pissed off" by the post. I can see your point. Not to say I agree but now we can agree to disagree.<br /><br />You are correct that this is not in the league of Avrukh nor for that matter Khalifman's series on Kramnik.<br /><br />Yes, you are also correct: "I seriously hope that once you go through the whole book you are being given that wisdom. That, for lack of other word – will be awesome". YES! would be great ...... But I did not pick up the book for that reason. I am hoping to improve my positional chess understanding by playing through the games. (It will take another post to explain why I am doing it in this manner.] At my level and for that purpose, the book (and annotations) serves me well. I can see if I am at your playing strength and I looked at the book and it is missing a few analysis, I am not going to be happy. But .... [not let's leave it there and not engage further in this argument which has nothing to do with chess.]<br /><br />And thanks for the chess lesson on my suggestion. Appreciate your time looking at it and commenting.<br /><br />Perhaps as you read through the book, you can continue to post on interesting positions which caught your attention.<br />There are a few things which have got me puzzled as well but I think it has to do with my level of chess understanding and not the book.<br /><br />I come here to learn chess and discuss chess. So let's do that. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1291479820 ChessPub Forum/Fianchetto Variation https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1291479820 Thu, 8 Sep 2011 17:18:55 GMT Yes, it is in Russian. But then his article was in Russian at a Russian language site. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1296446420 ChessPub Forum/Fianchetto Variation https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1296446420 Fri, 3 Jun 2011 04:23:43 GMT Honestly, I think an Avrukh repertoire player is better off going for the 8. h3 lines. Yes, there's 8...Bd7, but there a numerous ways for White to play for an advantage there, e.g., after 9. dxe5.