https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?board=sami Sämisch - ChessPub Forum en-us ChessPub Forum Sat, 15 Aug 2026 19:37:17 GMT http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 30 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1755029419 ChessPub Forum/Sämisch https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1755029419 Tue, 30 Dec 2025 18:20:08 GMT 6...b6 has now appeared in Chess Publishing, as an "unusual preference" of Sindarov.<br /><br />I noticed that a recent game between two 16-year-old IMs went 7. Bd3 a6 8. Nge2 c5 9. e5 Nfd7 10. Be4, varying from the old book stuff I know of with 10. exd6. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1369807520 ChessPub Forum/Sämisch https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1369807520 Wed, 17 Dec 2025 19:09:33 GMT <a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1369807520/11#11">MartinC wrote</a> on 11/14/25 at 08:34:58:<br /><div id="725E4D4B56517C3F00">The sort of thing you're after are positions where it's an unclear mess, the computer plays 10-15 often totally amazing moves and it's *still* an absolutely unclear mess. </div><!--725E4D4B56517C3F00--><br />You are describing this variation! https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1671463328 ChessPub Forum/Sämisch https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1671463328 Tue, 20 Dec 2022 09:01:40 GMT All that early Nbd7 stuff too would be 'new' in the past 18 years I suppose? Or has that even managed to come and go.<br /><br />In general, of course its good enough to let white fight for an advantage <img rel="&#58;&#45;&#41;" src="https://www.chesspub.com/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif" alt="Smiley" title="Smiley" /> Very few main lines gone missing even with computers as absurdly strong as they now are. <br /><br />Nearly all drawn with perfect play of course. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1605811635 ChessPub Forum/Sämisch https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1605811635 Mon, 23 Nov 2020 22:10:56 GMT <a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1605811635/10#10">PatzerNoster wrote</a> on 11/23/20 at 22:07:27:<br /><div id="1120353B24330F2E323524334101">I wonder what happens if Black switches plans and plays 8. ... c6 here?! Doesn't look that terrible to me. </div><!--1120353B24330F2E323524334101--><br /><br />Looks like we were posting at the same time.  <img rel="8-&#41;" src="https://www.chesspub.com/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/cool.gif" alt="Cool" title="Cool" /> https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1589832434 ChessPub Forum/Sämisch https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1589832434 Fri, 22 May 2020 15:05:03 GMT I can echo Eric's comments: it is a very cool book! https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1534333569 ChessPub Forum/Sämisch https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1534333569 Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:57:43 GMT I somehow just noticed this thread; to anyone else who may find it, I answered this question here: <a href="http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1495504173/75#75.&nbsp" target="_blank">http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1495504173/75#75.&nbsp</a>; https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1501258291 ChessPub Forum/Sämisch https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1501258291 Fri, 28 Jul 2017 18:33:08 GMT What's the idea?  There's just no need for 6...Na6 in that position, since ...e5 can be played immediately (in many lines of the King's Indian, ...Nb8-a6 is used to prepare ...e7-e5).<br /><br />I suppose you can argue that it prepares ...c7-c5 without having to sacrifice the pawn, but then 7.Qd2 c5 8.Nge2! and the knight is misplaced on a6.  Black isn't losing or anything, but he'd much rather have that knight on c6 here.  The c5-square (if that's where you want to go after a future x...cxd4 y.Nxd4) is usually not such a good post for a Black knight in the Samisch, as White's already protected e4 with a pawn and the knight can be pushed back rapidly.<br /><br />I just don't see the point of an early ...Na6 in the Samisch.  It makes more sense when White's already committed to a Benoni structure, or can play ...f7-f5 and ...Nc5 rapidly, with real pressure on e4.<br /><br /> https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1308735326 ChessPub Forum/Sämisch https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1308735326 Mon, 3 Oct 2016 17:43:26 GMT And like I said, I didnt find a single game in the ICCF 2014 database, can someone link me to correspondence chess in which the Bronstein sac was played? https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1475290028 ChessPub Forum/Sämisch https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1475290028 Sun, 2 Oct 2016 15:44:28 GMT <a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1475290028/0#0">AntonioAg wrote</a> on 10/01/16 at 02:47:08:<br /><div id="6161672002">The Bronstein Queen Sac is an interesting line but I couldnt find a single game on the 2014 ICCF database, which leads me to think the line is busted, at least for correspondence chess.<br />But, what is the refutation? I red that in the book "The Samisch Kings Indian Uncovered" by  Cherniaev and Prokuronov (pardon me if this book is bad, I am just starting out on Saemisch theory and dont know about good authors on it) the authors consider that in the Qf2 lines Black has not enough compensation yet things are not so clear for me, there is an obscure line with Bh6 which should be treated carefully by White in OTB chess.<br /><br />So, where is the refutation to it? Any article, book or some material that covers this interesting line? </div><!--6161672002--><br /><br /><a href="http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1308735326" target="_blank">http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1308735326</a><br /><br /> https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1397918404 ChessPub Forum/Sämisch https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1397918404 Sat, 19 Apr 2014 21:00:41 GMT Well, it wouldn't be the first time I've had the impression that Rapport's motto could be, "I'm 2700(ish), but I'm crazy."  He keeps playing the KID (via different move orders) in this tournament, but hasn't faced another Sämisch yet.  I'll keep an eye on him   <img rel="&#58;&#45;&#41;" src="https://www.chesspub.com/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif" alt="Smiley" title="Smiley" />