https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?board=winawer Winawer - ChessPub Forum en-us ChessPub Forum Wed, 10 Jun 2026 10:01:45 GMT http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 30 https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1777035545 ChessPub Forum/Winawer https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1777035545 Tue, 28 Apr 2026 14:02:52 GMT <a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1777035545/3#3">GMTonyKosten wrote</a> on 04/28/26 at 08:49:31:<br /><div id="777D645F5E497B5F4344555E3000">I've rebuilt the message index, is that any better? </div><!--777D645F5E497B5F4344555E3000--><br />Looks good! https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1196299168 ChessPub Forum/Winawer https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1196299168 Sat, 27 Jan 2024 23:13:39 GMT Those interested in more details on <i>The French Defense Revisited</i> can take a look at this thread:<br /><br /><a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1681732363" target="_blank">https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1681732363</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1196299168/64#64">FreeRepublic wrote</a> on 01/26/24 at 14:59:27:<br /><div id="1521363601362326313F3A305301">In the Winawer with 7h4, they cover both 7...Qc7 and 7...Qa5.  </div><!--1521363601362326313F3A305301--><br />It's interesting that in the 7...Qc7 line, Jacimovic and Zlatanovic, who opt for solid variations in other cases, recommend going for a pawn snatch: 8.h5 cxd4 9.cxd4 Qxc3+ 10.Bd2 Qxd4 11.Nf3 Qe4+ 12.Be2 Nf5. In contrast, Miedema strongly opposes this approach in his <i>The Modernized French Defence Volume 1</i>, saying, "Quite a lot of games have been played in this line, but I feel it's just too hard for humanoids playing Black...I know French players like you and me like to suffer a great deal from time to time, but only when we really have to...Please don't play this." https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1246384913 ChessPub Forum/Winawer https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1246384913 Tue, 19 Dec 2023 15:02:31 GMT <table border='0' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0'> <tr> <td width='40' height='40'><img src='/yabbfiles/Chess/br40.gif' width='40' height='40' border='0' alt='*' /></td> <td width='40' height='40'><img src='/yabbfiles/Chess/e40.gif' width='40' height='40' border='0' alt='*' /></td> <td width='40' height='40'><img src='/yabbfiles/Chess/bb40.gif' width='40' height='40' border='0' alt='*' /></td> <td width='40' height='40'><img 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/></td> </tr> </table><img src='/yabbfiles/Chess/black.gif' border='0' height='16' width='16' alt='*'/ > https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1317540127 ChessPub Forum/Winawer https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1317540127 Wed, 27 Sep 2023 01:36:55 GMT <a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1317540127/27#27">FreeRepublic wrote</a> on 09/25/23 at 20:18:23:<br /><div id="0733242413243134232D28224102">It sounds like a good book. </div><!--0733242413243134232D28224102--><br /><br />FreeRepublic - I've only looked around a bit in the Lemos book, so I can't express an informed opinion on it. Because of the omissions I mentioned in Reply #26, my initial impression tends to be bit less favorable compared to another Move by Move book, the one by Giddins on the French Winawer. This covers all of the major Winawer lines along with many sidelines.  I especially liked how Giddins handled the positional Winawer variations by tracing their development over time. In this respect, I was reminded of one of my favorite books, <i>Chess from Morphy to Botvinnik</i> by Imre König, which uses the same historical approach on the Ruy Lopez, Queen's Gambit, English Opening, and King's Gambit. <br /><br />Of course, this comparison is quite unfair to Lemos. I've read the Giddins book page by page and have seen the quality of his explanations and the thoroughness of his coverage. On the other hand, Lemos is trying to cover the entire French Defense in one volume.  He has to make some judicious choices on what to leave out.   https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1685830581 ChessPub Forum/Winawer https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1685830581 Mon, 19 Jun 2023 05:50:27 GMT I was thinking of this one:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.scrkuppenheim.de/test/schach/franz.htm" target="_blank">http://www.scrkuppenheim.de/test/schach/franz.htm</a><br /><br />The one called French Defence 3 Nc3 Bb4 from 2003. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1474611821 ChessPub Forum/Winawer https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1474611821 Sun, 11 Jun 2017 18:35:51 GMT I appreciate this thread is old and maybe dead by now, but the line is also the repertoire suggestion of Lakdawala in 'A ferocious opening repertoire', not sure whether that will cover the line in enough detail for you, mind. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1490389675 ChessPub Forum/Winawer https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1490389675 Mon, 27 Mar 2017 14:22:44 GMT Yes. I was talking about the top players who both played the opening regularly and drove the current theory forward. In terms of driving the theory alone, our own John Watson had a huge influence in bringing many French lines to the attention of the chess world. For example, simply 4.e5 c5 5.Nf3 in the Winawer was virtually unknown until Watson investigated it.<br /><br />Furthermore, it was Watson who popularized the Winawer as a whole at club level. Here's Buecker:<br /><a href="https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1275001791/17#17">Stefan Buecker wrote</a> on 06/02/10 at 02:25:45:<br /><div id="1C3B2A292E21100D3A2A2C242A3D4F03">In the past, e6 players used to be the anxious, harmless variety of club players. Then John Watson wrote his "Play the French", suddenly the said harmless player mutated into a dangerous zombie playing for the full point. </div><!--1C3B2A292E21100D3A2A2C242A3D4F03--><br />Petrosian also played the Winawer a lot, essaying slowing ideas like meeting a3 with Bf8 or meeting 6....Ne7 7.Qg4 Ng6 or 6...Qc7 7.Qg4 f5.<br /> https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1451180899 ChessPub Forum/Winawer https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1451180899 Sun, 15 Jan 2017 21:15:58 GMT Hello.<br /><br />I checked this line a bit and found these two recent games trying out:<br /><b>1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 c5 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 Qa5 7.Bd2 Qa4 8.Qg4 Kf8 9.Qd1 b6 10.dxc5 bxc5 11.c4</b><br />This 11...Ne7 (not mentioned previously in the thread) does look solid for black, even if white gets to open up the position a bit.<br /><br />Negi's line with <b>11.Nf3</b> does not look to give great chances for advantage either so I'm at the moment quite pessimistic of white's chances for advantage after 10.dxc5 <img rel="&#58;&#45;&#40;" src="https://www.chesspub.com/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/sad.gif" alt="Sad" title="Sad" />.<br /><br /><div><object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://chessflash.com/releases/latest/ChessFlash.swf" width="100%" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://chessflash.com/releases/latest/ChessFlash.swf" /><param name="flashvars" value='orientation=H&tabmode=true&light=FFE7AC&dark=0072b9&bordertext=494949&headerforeground=ffffff&mtforeground=666666&mtvariations=FF0000&mtmainline=000000&mtbackground=ffffff&dark=AF7A53&background=ffffff&pgndata=[Event "Paskturneringen Open 2016"] [Site "Norrkoping SWE"] [Date "2016.03.27"] [Round "6.2"] [White "Tikkanen, Hans"] [Black "Sjodahl, Pontus"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 c5 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 Qa5 7.Bd2 Qa4 8.Qg4 Kf8 9.Qd1 b6 10.dxc5 bxc5 11.c4!?      ( 11.Nf3 Ne7          ( 11...c4 {Is a thread suggestion.} )     12.Rb1 {Negi 2014. P.242.} 12...c4!? {Arguably an even better time for c4 compared to last move. } 13.Nd4 Nbc6 14.f4 Qxa3!? 15.Be2 a5 {(&#8734;)} ) 11...Ne7 {This move, strengthening the centre, has been seen lately and it has definite merit.} 12.cxd5 {probably best, although black may now be able to benefit from developing his bishop somewhere else than the a6 square.}      ( 12.Nf3 {Arguably the most natural move in the position. Now black does not send his bishop to a6 in some kind of normal fashion but instead goes:} 12...dxc4! 13.Be3          ( 13.c3 Qxd1+ 14.Rxd1 Nd7 15.Bxc4 Bb7 {This light piece setup is very harmonious and shows the advantage of black holding back Ba6 a little while.} 16.Bc1 Nd5 17.O-O N7b6 {(=) Black has no problems.} )     13...Nd7 14.Qd6 Ke8 15.Bxc5 Nd5 16.Rd1 Nxc5 17.Qxc5 Bd7 {(=) Again black should have no problems.} ) 12...exd5 13.f4      ( 13.Nf3 {Is another way.} 13...h6!? 14.Rb1 Bf5 15.Bd3 Nd7 16.O-O Bxd3 17.cxd3 Qxd1 18.Rfxd1 Nc6 19.d4 Ke7 20.dxc5 Ke6 21.Be3 Rab8 22.Rbc1 Rb3 23.Nd4+ Nxd4 24.Bxd4 Rc8 25.f4 Nb8 26.g4 g6 27.Rf1 Nc6 28.f5+ gxf5 29.gxf5+ Ke7 30.Bf2 Rg8+ 31.Kh1 Nxe5 32.c6 Nd3 33.Bh4+ Kd6 34.Bg3+ Rxg3 35.c7 Rg8 36.c8=Q Rxc8 37.Rxc8 Rxa3 38.Rh8 d4 39.Rxh6+ Kd5 40.Rh8 Ne5 41.Re1 f6 {Draw. Sutovsky (2622) - Kovalenko (2667). 20160725.} ) 13...Bf5 14.Bd3 Bxd3 15.cxd3 Qxd1+ 16.Kxd1 Nd7 17.Nf3 h5 18.e6 fxe6 19.Re1 Rb8 20.Rxe6 Rb6 21.Re2 Kf7 22.d4 cxd4 23.Nxd4 Nf6 24.Rc1 Ne4 25.Bb4 Ng6 26.Rc7+ Kf6 27.g3 h4 28.f5 hxg3 29.hxg3 Nxg3 30.Re6+ Rxe6 31.fxe6 Ne5 32.Be7+ Kg6 33.Bd6 Kf6 34.Be7+ Kg6 35.Bd6 Kf6 36.Rxa7 Re8 37.Rxg7 Ne4 38.Bxe5+ 1/2-1/2'/></object><a href="http://www.jesseo.com/chesspublishing/pgn.php?pgndata=[Event%20%26quot;Paskturneringen%20Open%202016%26quot;]%0A[Site%20%26quot;Norrkoping%20SWE%26quot;]%0A[Date%20%26quot;2016.03.27%26quot;]%0A[Round%20%26quot;6.2%26quot;]%0A[White%20%26quot;Tikkanen,%20Hans%26quot;]%0A[Black%20%26quot;Sjodahl,%20Pontus%26quot;]%0A[Result%20%26quot;1/2-1/2%26quot;]%0A%0A1.e4%20e6%202.d4%20d5%203.Nc3%20Bb4%204.e5%20c5%205.a3%20Bxc3+%206.bxc3%20Qa5%207.Bd2%20Qa4%208.Qg4%20Kf8%209.Qd1%20b6%2010.dxc5%20bxc5%2011.c4!?%20%0A%26nbsp;%20%26nbsp;%20(%2011.Nf3%20Ne7%20%0A%26nbsp;%20%26nbsp;%26nbsp;%20%26nbsp;%26nbsp;%20(%2011...c4%20%26%23123;Is%20a%20thread%20suggestion.%26%23125;%20)%0A%26nbsp;%20%26nbsp;%2012.Rb1%20%26%23123;Negi%202014.%20P.242.%26%23125;%2012...c4!?%20%26%23123;Arguably%20an%20even%20better%20time%20for%20c4%20compared%20to%20last%20move.%20%26%23125;%2013.Nd4%20Nbc6%2014.f4%20Qxa3!?%2015.Be2%20a5%20%26%23123;(&#8734;)%26%23125;%20)%0A11...Ne7%20%26%23123;This%20move,%20strengthening%20the%20centre,%20has%20been%20seen%20lately%20and%20it%20has%20definite%20merit.%26%23125;%2012.cxd5%20%26%23123;probably%20best,%20although%20black%20may%20now%20be%20able%20to%20benefit%20from%20developing%20his%20bishop%20somewhere%20else%20than%20the%20a6%20square.%26%23125;%20%0A%26nbsp;%20%26nbsp;%20(%2012.Nf3%20%26%23123;Arguably%20the%20most%20natural%20move%20in%20the%20position.%20Now%20black%20does%20not%20send%20his%20bishop%20to%20a6%20in%20some%20kind%20of%20normal%20fashion%20but%20instead%20goes:%26%23125;%2012...dxc4!%2013.Be3%20%0A%26nbsp;%20%26nbsp;%26nbsp;%20%26nbsp;%26nbsp;%20(%2013.c3%20Qxd1+%2014.Rxd1%20Nd7%2015.Bxc4%20Bb7%20%26%23123;This%20light%20piece%20setup%20is%20very%20harmonious%20and%20shows%20the%20advantage%20of%20black%20holding%20back%20Ba6%20a%20little%20while.%26%23125;%2016.Bc1%20Nd5%2017.O-O%20N7b6%20%26%23123;(%3D)%20Black%20has%20no%20problems.%26%23125;%20)%0A%26nbsp;%20%26nbsp;%2013...Nd7%2014.Qd6%20Ke8%2015.Bxc5%20Nd5%2016.Rd1%20Nxc5%2017.Qxc5%20Bd7%20%26%23123;(%3D)%20Again%20black%20should%20have%20no%20problems.%26%23125;%20)%0A12...exd5%2013.f4%20%0A%26nbsp;%20%26nbsp;%20(%2013.Nf3%20%26%23123;Is%20another%20way.%26%23125;%2013...h6!?%2014.Rb1%20Bf5%2015.Bd3%20Nd7%2016.O-O%20Bxd3%2017.cxd3%20Qxd1%2018.Rfxd1%20Nc6%2019.d4%20Ke7%2020.dxc5%20Ke6%2021.Be3%20Rab8%2022.Rbc1%20Rb3%2023.Nd4+%20Nxd4%2024.Bxd4%20Rc8%2025.f4%20Nb8%2026.g4%20g6%2027.Rf1%20Nc6%2028.f5+%20gxf5%2029.gxf5+%20Ke7%2030.Bf2%20Rg8+%2031.Kh1%20Nxe5%2032.c6%20Nd3%2033.Bh4+%20Kd6%2034.Bg3+%20Rxg3%2035.c7%20Rg8%2036.c8%3DQ%20Rxc8%2037.Rxc8%20Rxa3%2038.Rh8%20d4%2039.Rxh6+%20Kd5%2040.Rh8%20Ne5%2041.Re1%20f6%20%26%23123;Draw.%20Sutovsky%20(2622)%20-%20Kovalenko%20(2667).%2020160725.%26%23125;%20)%0A13...Bf5%2014.Bd3%20Bxd3%2015.cxd3%20Qxd1+%2016.Kxd1%20Nd7%2017.Nf3%20h5%2018.e6%20fxe6%2019.Re1%20Rb8%2020.Rxe6%20Rb6%2021.Re2%20Kf7%2022.d4%20cxd4%2023.Nxd4%20Nf6%2024.Rc1%20Ne4%2025.Bb4%20Ng6%2026.Rc7+%20Kf6%2027.g3%20h4%2028.f5%20hxg3%2029.hxg3%20Nxg3%2030.Re6+%20Rxe6%2031.fxe6%20Ne5%2032.Be7+%20Kg6%2033.Bd6%20Kf6%2034.Be7+%20Kg6%2035.Bd6%20Kf6%2036.Rxa7%20Re8%2037.Rxg7%20Ne4%2038.Bxe5+%201/2-1/2">Download game in pgn format</a></div><br /><br />Have a nice day. https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1147814429 ChessPub Forum/Winawer https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1147814429 Tue, 19 Jan 2016 19:59:21 GMT Dom, yes it is me for sure. I fully agree that the St George is far away from WRG. That was not my point at all. The point was to say how absurd it is with the arguments I do quite well with this or that move OTB, and nothing else (because that is what Gambit normally use as a remark. See also recently in another thread). I got tired of that.<br /><br />If we want to discuss an opening, analysis and plans is useful. I consider playing some openings that may not be fully sound when i might have to win e.g. But to always hear the sole argument that a player is successful with this or that gambit is not. In that case Miles is as valid an argument, imo. Or look at Carlsen's openings in many of his games for that matter. Not theoretically threatening but he still wins.<br /><br /> https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1451558389 ChessPub Forum/Winawer https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1451558389 Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:50:34 GMT Hello gr Simon.<br /><br />You registered at the ultimate end of last year and posted a generic question, nobody dared to answer.<br /><br />Nice members trying to avoid the classic RTFF or RTFB (B for books) maybe ...<br /><br />For "thoughts", you have better...you can create "poll" if you wish<br /><br /><br />