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1  Chess Publishing Openings / Dragon Sicilians / Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
 on: Today at 03:23:15 
Straggler wrote yesterday at 17:33:42:
Bibs wrote yesterday at 14:24:49:
If there is a special hell designated for chess writers, the first to burn in caissic eternal damnation are the ghastly triumvirate of Keene (plagiarism), Schiller (just plain bad), Lakdawala

Now that is harsh. Keene and Schiller both wrote at least one decent book.

I don't even look at Schiller's books. Guess why?

2  Chess Publishing Openings / Dragon Sicilians / Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
 on: Today at 03:19:43 
bragesjo wrote yesterday at 15:44:03:
The Dragon base is huge and I see no obius mistakes. He appears to enter mainlines.

I have look at several variations hasy. It appers to be a very combatable recommendatios. In Soltis variation with direct Bh6 he goes for Bxh6 Qxh6 Rxc3 bxc3 Qc7. I thougt this was supposed to be good for white


13.Bh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Rxc3 15.bxc3 Qc7, 15...Qa5 and 15...Qc8 Since forever I have known to be better for white if I am not wrong. Initially black had unbelievable play. Until some g4 combined with Nf5 line put it to rest. I don't know if there has been maybe a computer improvement for black. Otherwise I wouldn't understand why Marin recommends that. As far as I know 13...Nc4 would be the move!

3  Chess Publishing Openings / Dragon Sicilians / Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
 on: Today at 03:09:47 
Straggler wrote yesterday at 08:37:26:
XChess1971 wrote yesterday at 05:39:39:
Well it is good to know. If there is not much explanation or no explanation at all. Chances are the GM didn't do a thorough investigation.

I don’t understand that. You may not like Marin’s recommendations, but I’ve never heard it suggested that he doesn’t provide enough explanation.


I did not say that I do not like Marin's explanations. I said that if there is little or no explanation at all maybe the GM didn't do a thorough investigation.

4  Chess Publishing Openings / Dragon Sicilians / Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
 on: Yesterday at 22:16:17 
@bragesjo:
Thanks a lot! I will stick to the Dragon in this thread from now on.
Except...

Paddy wrote yesterday at 20:25:45:
“You can put lipstick on a Bogo-Indian but it's still a Bogo-Indian."
Vishy Anand   
Smiley
-)


Grin Is that an actual Anand quote? Funny and a bit out of character.

5  Chess Publishing Openings / Dragon Sicilians / Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
 on: Yesterday at 20:25:45 
bragesjo wrote yesterday at 16:44:40:
Bogo Indian Nd2 he stopped writing in a sideline black gets tempo for attack where whites play is much faster evaluatiing as a pawn better for white. Stockfish 14 is a bit more optemistic for black than Stockfish 13 and Fat Fritz 2. I forgot to computer check the position before and it had not helped and I got worse lost 2 games in the same tournament.


“You can put lipstick on a Bogo-Indian but it's still a Bogo-Indian."
Vishy Anand   
Smiley
-)


6  Other / Chess and Computers / Re: Stockfish suing ChessBase
 on: Yesterday at 19:20:59 
https://www.chess.com/news/view/stockfish-developers-sue-chessbase-claiming-copy... Peter Doggers put up a text with the odd Chessbase quote

"One can righteously criticize the articles about Fat Fritz on Chessbase.com which constituted an unacceptable belittlement of Stockfish. The reverse belittlement of Albert's innovations by SF does not balance this, even if they now seem to follow his path with SF 14."

Ha-ha-ha.

7  Chess Publishing Openings / Dragon Sicilians / Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
 on: Yesterday at 17:33:42 
Bibs wrote yesterday at 14:24:49:
If there is a special hell designated for chess writers, the first to burn in caissic eternal damnation are the ghastly triumvirate of Keene (plagiarism), Schiller (just plain bad), Lakdawala

Now that is harsh. Keene and Schiller both wrote at least one decent book.

8  Chess Publishing Openings / Dragon Sicilians / Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
 on: Yesterday at 16:44:40 
Yes Marin is good at expaining concepts and writing articles. I have most of hes none opening bases and several of hes opening bases. One can also not expect every line covered.

I will not post any games.

One side line in c4 b6 he wants to sacifice an exchange in a move. missing an  computers improvment later. I computer checked and played a normal move instead getting the better side of an easy draw.

One sideline in Nimzo Qc2 he suggested realy odd move missing a computer suggestion where both Stockfish 13 and Fat Fritz 2 thougt white is a pawn better material equal but black has problem the getting pieces out. I computer checked played a slight diversion and drawed.

Bogo Indian Nd2 he stopped writing in a sideline black gets tempo for attack where whites play is much faster evaluatiing as a pawn better for white. Stockfish 14 is a bit more optemistic for black than Stockfish 13 and Fat Fritz 2. I forgot to computer check the position before and it had not helped and I got worse lost 2 games in the same tournament.

But I think we should discuss Dragon and not Marin here.

9  Chess Publishing Openings / Dragon Sicilians / Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
 on: Yesterday at 16:07:57 
bragesjo wrote yesterday at 15:36:50:
Sorry I was a bit harch. The holes are not in the French bases even throght one line was lighty covered even after an update. I refered to 3 other bases where he covered lines like in one case writing black gets attack when whites counter attack is much faster.

Marin has become one of my favorite instructive chess writers, but possibly he's better at identifying interesting ideas, explaining things, teaching patterns and strategies and adding historical context and a personal perspective rather than at strict analysis quality.

I found a couple of holes in his Modern Benoni repertoire databases, even without access to strong engines myself. Of course those are some 3-4 years old already, so since then everyone's analysis has improved, including Marin's.

I still can't contain my curiosity though: which Marin opening databases are the holes you're talking about in, bragesjo? Grünfeld, Modern Benoni, Hedgehog for Black, Leningrad Bird, Catalan, Nimzo-Indian, Bogo-Indian? I've bought almost all of them over the years, but as for finding time to actually study and check them, that's another matter...

10  Chess Publishing Openings / Dragon Sicilians / Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
 on: Yesterday at 15:44:03 
The Dragon base is huge and I see no obius mistakes. He appears to enter mainlines.

I have look at several variations hasy. It appers to be a very combatable recommendatios. In Soltis variation with direct Bh6 he goes for Bxh6 Qxh6 Rxc3 bxc3 Qc7. I thougt this was supposed to be good for white

 
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