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Philidor's Defence, Hanham, 3...exd4 & 3...f5 [C41]
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1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6! and Black is O.K.
Since some people wanted a Philidor thread on it's own, I'll use this one. So it's up to Mnb and company to prove me wrong.
Please keep this thread serious and to the point! AKA 1, no evaluations...

Started 07/01/04 at 07:25:26 by A.A. (Guest)
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By: kylemeister
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1E4 E5 2Nf3 D6 3D4 BG4?!
Tim McGrew did an interesting article on this line making it seem quite playable. The idea is to go off the famous Opera Box game where morphy executed a truley beatiful combination. After morphys 4.D...

Started 10/02/05 at 22:17:26 by basqueknight (Ex Member)
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By: lost highway
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2.Nf3 d6 3.Bb5!?
I recall that this line was mentioned in a Yearbook where Morozevich played 3.Bb5!? against the Phillidor in a blitz game against a fellow GM. Does White obtain an advantage after this mov...

Started 02/14/08 at 10:02:36 by DoubledPawns
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Antoshin Variation with 6 Qf3!?
1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 d6 3 d4 exd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 Be7 6 Qf3!? is an interesting idea I stumbled upon recently.
Neither of Bauer's suggestions seem to be comfortable for Black:
A) 6...Nbd7 7 Be2!? (7 Nf5 Ne5...

Started 01/20/16 at 12:09:42 by Mainline_Novelty
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Any info on "the philidor files" by Bauer?
Hi to all!
I have seen a forthcoming book by EveryMan about the Philidor:
On everyman site it is said that t...

Started 01/05/07 at 12:01:30 by krugman
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By: Jonathan Tait
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beating the philidor defense
hey all, im just wondering what the higher players think the best way to beat the philidor defense is? im a 2000 player and my friend plays it constantly as white and black. In case you dont know, im ...

Started 09/29/04 at 18:45:15 by blacklion1985
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By: MNb
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Black Lion/Philidor
I have been trying this out online and many of my opponents play an early dxe5 but none of the books I have cover this and nor does the Ginger GM in his Chessable course.
Any theory that could be...

Started 04/28/20 at 22:36:52 by Krudos
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By: Dink Heckler
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C41: Antoshin : improvement for black after 6.Bf4
Hi everyone. That is my first posting on the forum Smiley
A few days ago I played a game against a strong fide master, and he played the Antoshin.  I went for the Ff4 variation. It was probably a mis...

Started 03/11/09 at 19:58:26 by smoothtactics
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By: tp2205
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C41: Bologan on Philidor
The Fighting Philidor
by GM Viorel Bologan
, Chessbase-Fritztrainer-DVD, coming soon (may 2010), €27,50
"Nowadays the Philidor Defence is mostly played [b]via the Pirc move order 1.e4 d6 2.d4 N...

Started 04/30/10 at 16:31:00 by tracke
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By: Michael Ayton
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C41: Hanham Variation
Question for 1.e4 gurus:
What is supposed to be White's leading plan/best play for advantage against 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e5 4.Nf3 Nd7?  Am I right that something like 5.Bc4 Be7 6.0-0 c6 7.a4 0...

Started 08/05/09 at 13:43:01 by Markovich
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By: Keano
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C41: Newark gambit
Somebody know something about this gambit ?, 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 f5 4.Bc4 b5?!. I've read some issues of and all players play 5.Bxg8?! or 5.Bxb5+ when I see clearly 5.Bb3!...

Started 08/16/11 at 03:59:19 by AMM
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By: Bibs
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C41: Philidor 3...Be6
I wonder if anyone else on here ever plays this variation.  I guess sometimes I get annoyed by allowing White a lot of possibilities, although I have been having fun recently with Bird's Defense when ...

Started 05/14/10 at 20:18:32 by BirdBrain
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By: BirdBrain
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C41: Philidor Countergambit 3..f5
Now some sources claim Latvian gambit has been finally refuted in several ways ( with best 3.Nxe5! ), we could put our eyes in other "f5" ruptures, mainly from Philidor's Defence.
         Two ye...

Started 01/01/10 at 06:00:38 by AMM
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C41: Philidor Countergambit 4.exf5 Qe7!?
I was looking at the line
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 f5 4.exf5 Qe7
and couldn't find a way to get a clear dominating position for white. Is the move 4.. Qe7 a known theoretical move in the philid...

Started 02/23/12 at 08:21:30 by kevinfat
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By: Markovich
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C41: Philidor Defence: the best defence in chess?

When I was younger and had some ideas about the centre in chess, I'm sure I played Philidor's Defence all the time. Then I found out that it was regarded as a less serious and less optimal defe...

Started 02/23/11 at 16:12:15 by Uhohspaghettio
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By: nestor
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Poll: C41: Philidor plans for black
Hi all!
After 1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 e5 4. Nf3 Nbd7 5. Bc4 Be7 6. O-O O-O 7. Re1 c6 8. a4 (the main line) which plan do you consider as the best one for black? The 'old' one with 8... a5, or t...

Started 07/02/11 at 13:30:53 by Vass
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By: Vass
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C41: The Modern Philidor Defence by Barsky
New book May 20th. 224 pages. Contents given at

Started 05/18/10 at 08:16:02 by Alias
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By: MNb
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C41: The Philidor with 1...d6
What if White doesn't play 2.d4?

Started 08/04/10 at 09:09:22 by Justinhorton
5 6161 Last Post 08/06/10 at 19:13:44
By: Papageno
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C41: TN in Qxd4/...a6 variation of Philidors
1. e4 e5  2. Nf3 d6  3. d4 exd4  4. Qxd4 a6  5. Qa4+
Its not fundamentally unsound by any means and perhaps worth a try in blitz as if 5...b5?  6. Bxb5+

Started 02/11/11 at 22:22:48 by George Jempty
3 4182 Last Post 02/12/11 at 02:03:14
By: kylemeister
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C41:Hanham variation, what is best vs 6Ng5, 7Bf7?
Hi, i want play Philidor defence (by pirc move order) and i find difficult to defend this position
1 e4 d6 2 d4 Nf6 3 Nc3 Nbd7 4 Nf3 e5 5Bc4 Be7 6Ng5 00 7 Bxf7 and so on...
I read the Bauer ...

Started 11/21/11 at 22:02:46 by Karpovfan
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