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Antoshin Variation with 6 Qf3!?
1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 d6 3 d4 exd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 Be7 6 Qf3!? is an interesting idea I stumbled upon recently.
Neither of Bauer's suggestions seem to be comfortable for Black:
A) 6...Nbd7 7 Be2!? (7 Nf5 Ne5...

Started 01/20/16 at 12:09:42 by Mainline_Novelty
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Re: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6
sloughter wrote on 07/22/13 at 00:03:24:
Unless Black can figure out a way to castle Queenside, White just castles Queenside and uses a pawn roller on the Kingside to win material. Maybe Black can avoid the loss of a piece but I don't see...


Started 07/22/13 at 02:15:24 by sloughter
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By: sloughter
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Philidor: Antoshin 6.Qf3!?
I am still looking for something simple and good against the Antoshin after the initial moves
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 exd 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Be7,
which can be reached with various move orders, e.g....

Started 11/10/08 at 08:59:56 by Lou_Cyber
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By: Lou_Cyber
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C41:Hanham variation, what is best vs 6Ng5, 7Bf7?
Hi, i want play Philidor defence (by pirc move order) and i find difficult to defend this position
1 e4 d6 2 d4 Nf6 3 Nc3 Nbd7 4 Nf3 e5 5Bc4 Be7 6Ng5 00 7 Bxf7 and so on...
I read the Bauer ...

Started 11/21/11 at 22:02:46 by Karpovfan
1 3568 Last Post 12/06/11 at 18:04:25
By: HgMan
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Philidor - Antoshin 2
in search of something sharp and good against the dreaded Antoshin I first found this useful thread:
Then I found th...

Started 10/04/07 at 14:18:20 by Lou_Cyber
2 3012 Last Post 11/12/07 at 09:28:15
By: Keano
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Lion/philidor Endgame??
Undecided Is the Lion/Philidor endgame after .e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e5 4.dxe5 dxe5 5.Qxd8 Kxd8 really innocous for black...I have been looking at 6.Bg5  and have encountered  both 6...Be6(supposedly best) a...

Started 09/11/05 at 14:23:21 by rajkipling2
2 1775 Last Post 09/12/05 at 01:39:27
By: Smyslov_Fan
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learning the moderne philidor
which book shall i buy.
Barskys modern philidor, Black lion or Bauers philidor files ?

Started 07/21/12 at 21:56:52 by TomKarlsen
3 4568 Last Post 07/22/12 at 09:19:53
By: TalJechin
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C41: TN in Qxd4/...a6 variation of Philidors
1. e4 e5  2. Nf3 d6  3. d4 exd4  4. Qxd4 a6  5. Qa4+
Its not fundamentally unsound by any means and perhaps worth a try in blitz as if 5...b5?  6. Bxb5+

Started 02/11/11 at 22:22:48 by George Jempty
3 4182 Last Post 02/12/11 at 02:03:14
By: kylemeister
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Suspected Gambit in Philidor
what do you think about this one:
1.e4 e5
2.Nf3 d6
3.d4  Bg4
4.d:e5 Nd7
5.e:d6 B:d6
Where can I find analysis?

Started 09/13/05 at 06:24:13 by Dzambus
3 2349 Last Post 09/16/05 at 09:12:00
By: basqueknight - Ex Member
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2.Nf3 d6 3.Bb5!?
I recall that this line was mentioned in a Yearbook where Morozevich played 3.Bb5!? against the Phillidor in a blitz game against a fellow GM. Does White obtain an advantage after this mov...

Started 02/14/08 at 10:02:36 by DoubledPawns
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1E4 E5 2Nf3 D6 3D4 BG4?!
Tim McGrew did an interesting article on this line making it seem quite playable. The idea is to go off the famous Opera Box game where morphy executed a truley beatiful combination. After morphys 4.D...

Started 10/02/05 at 22:17:26 by basqueknight (Ex Member)
4 2713 Last Post 10/03/05 at 17:36:12
By: lost highway
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Samisch vs Philidor
I like to play Nf3 and Bc4 lines vs the Philidor but the Samisch King's Indian lines vs the Pirc and Modern. So there are some tricky move orders which get me out of book.
Black can play...

Started 04/20/17 at 07:22:34 by befuddled
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By: MNb
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C41: The Philidor with 1...d6
What if White doesn't play 2.d4?

Started 08/04/10 at 09:09:22 by Justinhorton
5 6161 Last Post 08/06/10 at 19:13:44
By: Papageno
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The Philidor & Lion  Defences
I'm hoping to find material on the Philidor and Lion Defences somewhere on this forum plus maybe an eBook or two. I've not had much luck! Can anyone help please?

Started 09/13/09 at 16:15:59 by jeupham
5 4676 Last Post 09/16/09 at 11:20:23
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C41: The Modern Philidor Defence by Barsky
New book May 20th. 224 pages. Contents given at

Started 05/18/10 at 08:16:02 by Alias
6 14775 Last Post 01/11/11 at 20:34:32
By: MNb
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Philidor Antoshin seems ostracized over here
I don't know why but the Antoshin is covered only very briefly on  the 1...e5 homepage. Suffice to say, the variation 6 Bc4 is ultimately missing in the ebook and 6 Bf4 coverage is outdated. Since the...

Started 02/26/09 at 12:22:31 by The French Fan
6 5008 Last Post 02/27/09 at 14:14:19
By: The French Fan
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Shirov's The Philidor
Do experts of The Philidor fear Shirov's 5.g4...???
What is blacks best reply???
I am thinking about adding my repertoire - The Philidor arises in my games after:
1.d4  Nf6<br...

Started 01/19/05 at 15:54:33 by SutterCane
6 7312 Last Post 07/08/05 at 10:24:36
By: lnn2
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C41: Philidor 3...Be6
I wonder if anyone else on here ever plays this variation.  I guess sometimes I get annoyed by allowing White a lot of possibilities, although I have been having fun recently with Bird's Defense when ...

Started 05/14/10 at 20:18:32 by BirdBrain
7 5879 Last Post 05/21/10 at 20:48:50
By: BirdBrain
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Philidor Question
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Be7 6. Be2 (GM Larry Kaufman in his book The Chess Advantage Black and White calls this move "the wimp's way out of playing 6. Bf4" is there really rea...

Started 04/15/09 at 19:43:08 by trw
7 4572 Last Post 05/04/09 at 22:46:16
By: e4d6
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Does anyone know anything about th
Does anyone know anything about this obscure line of the Philidor: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Bg4 Nd7!? Black gets an easy game for a pawn and White has to play carefully - it's probably only worth tr...

Started 01/21/10 at 14:39:34 by Tripler64
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By: Tripler64
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