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Reply #37 - 06/21/07 at 09:08:45
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"1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Bg7


I'm sorry. This is exactly the line I was refering.
  

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Reply #36 - 06/20/07 at 00:08:34
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Holbox wrote on 06/19/07 at 22:48:55:
Well after 5...Bg7 6.e3 Nh5 then white has a resource in : 7.Bg5 h6 8.Bh4 g5 9.Ne5!?

I think.


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"1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Bg7

[4...Nh5 5.Bg5 Bg7 (5...h6 6.Be3) 6.h3 This was the line I was referring to in the response to Willempie.]

5.e3 Nh5 6.Bg5 h6 7.Bh4 g5 8.Ne5"   ?

In retrospect, there might have been some confusion earlier when the first few moves were not included.
  

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Re: BARRY ATTACK
Reply #35 - 06/19/07 at 22:48:55
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Well after 5...Bg7 6.e3 Nh5 then white has a resource in : 7.Bg5 h6 8.Bh4 g5 9.Ne5!?

I think.
  

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Re: BARRY ATTACK
Reply #34 - 06/19/07 at 21:00:33
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Indeed that ...Nh5 idea looks interesting. I also like to point out, that White does not have to play the 150-Attack: 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.Bf4 0-0 5.Qd2 postponing e2-e4. Then ...Bg4 makes much less sense.
  

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Re: BARRY ATTACK
Reply #33 - 06/19/07 at 10:14:29
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I must try that Nh5 and your idea out some time, looks interesting.
Maybe cross-reference it with this Grunfeld line (where the inspiration came from): 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.Rc1 Nh5
  

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Re: BARRY ATTACK
Reply #32 - 06/19/07 at 10:07:48
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Willempie wrote on 06/19/07 at 09:42:16:
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I much prefer 6.Be3, which I think is more in the Barry spirit of things.  Smiley  Black's development seems a little awkward here to me.  I don't think the creative White player will be too much dispirited by the slight disruption in the configuration of his pieces.  

Maybe, you can always play 5..Bg7 6.e3 and then Nh5.
But I dont see much positive for white after 5..Nh5 6.Bg5 h6 7.Be3 either. The e-pawn is blocked and the bishop looks a bit weird. I think 7..Bg7 (with eg f5 to follow if possible aiming for a sorta stonewall with the pawn on e7) looks decent enough.
Possible too is 6..f6 to avoid any knights plonking on e5. Though I dont really like that one.


After 5...Bg7, I would prefer to play the more flexible 6.h3.  One of my ideas after 6.Be3 is to play for h3 and g4, followed perhaps by Ne5.  (Bg2 might even be a possibility later.)  The g4 idea can also be dangerous against an ...f5 stonewall attempt.  Another idea is that Qd2 can prevent kingside castling, demonstrating ...h6 as a weakness.
  

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Re: BARRY ATTACK
Reply #31 - 06/19/07 at 09:42:16
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I much prefer 6.Be3, which I think is more in the Barry spirit of things.  Smiley  Black's development seems a little awkward here to me.  I don't think the creative White player will be too much dispirited by the slight disruption in the configuration of his pieces.  

Maybe, you can always play 5..Bg7 6.e3 and then Nh5.
But I dont see much positive for white after 5..Nh5 6.Bg5 h6 7.Be3 either. The e-pawn is blocked and the bishop looks a bit weird. I think 7..Bg7 (with eg f5 to follow if possible aiming for a sorta stonewall with the pawn on e7) looks decent enough.
Possible too is 6..f6 to avoid any knights plonking on e5. Though I dont really like that one.
  

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Reply #30 - 06/19/07 at 08:50:05
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Willempie wrote on 06/19/07 at 08:09:13:
sssthepro wrote on 06/19/07 at 05:58:48:
I hate the Barry Attack....I keep losing against it.... Can someone recommend a good line?

5...Nh5 cant be that bad:
[Event "Mediterranean-ch 4th"]
[Site "Cannes"]
[Date "2007.02.18"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Collas,Silvia"]
[Black "Djukic,Nikola"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Eco "D00"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Nh5 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 g5 7.Bg3 Bg7 8.e3 Nxg3 
9.hxg3 c6 10.Bd3 Qb6 11.a3 Bg4 12.Qc1 Nd7 13.Nh2 Be6 14.b4 f6 15.g4 Bf7 16.Nf1 h5 17.gxh5 Rxh5 18.Rxh5 Bxh5 19.Ng3 Bf7 20.Na4 Qc7 21.c4 dxc4 22.Bxc4 e6 23.Nc5 Ke7 24.Qc2 Rh8 25.Qe4 Nxc5 26.bxc5 Kd7 27.Rb1 b5 28.cxb6 axb6 29.a4 Qa7 30.Qc2 Ke7 31.Qb3 Qa5+ 32.Kf1 Rb8 33.Qa3+ Kd7 34.Ne4 Bf8 35.Nxf6+ Kc7 36.Qd3 Qxa4 37.Kg1 Qa3 38.Qc2 Kd8 39.Ng4 Qd6 40.Qh7 Qe7 41.Ne5 Be8 42.Qg8 Kc7 43.Ra1 Kb7 44.Qxe6 Qxe6 45.Bxe6 Bg7 46.Nc4 Rd8 47.g4 Bg6 48.Ra3 b5 49.Na5+ Kb6 50.Nb3 Bf8 51.Ra1 Bb4 52.f3 Re8 53.Nc5 Bxc5 54.dxc5+ Kxc5 55.Bd7 Rxe3 56.Rc1+ Kd4 57.Rxc6 Bd3 58.Kf2 Re5 59.f4 gxf4 60.Rd6+ Rd5 61.Rxd5+ Kxd5 62.g5 b4 63.Be8 Ke5 64.Bf7 Be4 65.Bg8 Bd5 66.Bh7 b3 67.Ke2 b2 0-1



I much prefer 6.Be3, which I think is more in the Barry spirit of things.  Smiley  Black's development seems a little awkward here to me.  I don't think the creative White player will be too much dispirited by the slight disruption in the configuration of his pieces.   

You might want to check out an old archived online article on the 150 and Barry Attacks written by Andrew Martin many years ago:

http://web.archive.org/web/20000306110513/internetchess.com/columns/amartin/150b...

The precise move order recommended here (5...Bg4!) is often ignored in the available literature on the Barry Attack (...Bg4 is often given after castling), so it's worth checking out for either side.  Also Blatny-E. Ragozin is a simply just a very nice game to play through.
  

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Re: BARRY ATTACK
Reply #29 - 06/19/07 at 08:09:13
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sssthepro wrote on 06/19/07 at 05:58:48:
I hate the Barry Attack....I keep losing against it.... Can someone recommend a good line?

5...Nh5 cant be that bad:
[Event "Mediterranean-ch 4th"]
[Site "Cannes"]
[Date "2007.02.18"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Collas,Silvia"]
[Black "Djukic,Nikola"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Eco "D00"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Nh5 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 g5 7.Bg3 Bg7 8.e3 Nxg3 
9.hxg3 c6 10.Bd3 Qb6 11.a3 Bg4 12.Qc1 Nd7 13.Nh2 Be6 14.b4 f6 15.g4 Bf7 16.Nf1 h5 17.gxh5 Rxh5 18.Rxh5 Bxh5 19.Ng3 Bf7 20.Na4 Qc7 21.c4 dxc4 22.Bxc4 e6 23.Nc5 Ke7 24.Qc2 Rh8 25.Qe4 Nxc5 26.bxc5 Kd7 27.Rb1 b5 28.cxb6 axb6 29.a4 Qa7 30.Qc2 Ke7 31.Qb3 Qa5+ 32.Kf1 Rb8 33.Qa3+ Kd7 34.Ne4 Bf8 35.Nxf6+ Kc7 36.Qd3 Qxa4 37.Kg1 Qa3 38.Qc2 Kd8 39.Ng4 Qd6 40.Qh7 Qe7 41.Ne5 Be8 42.Qg8 Kc7 43.Ra1 Kb7 44.Qxe6 Qxe6 45.Bxe6 Bg7 46.Nc4 Rd8 47.g4 Bg6 48.Ra3 b5 49.Na5+ Kb6 50.Nb3 Bf8 51.Ra1 Bb4 52.f3 Re8 53.Nc5 Bxc5 54.dxc5+ Kxc5 55.Bd7 Rxe3 56.Rc1+ Kd4 57.Rxc6 Bd3 58.Kf2 Re5 59.f4 gxf4 60.Rd6+ Rd5 61.Rxd5+ Kxd5 62.g5 b4 63.Be8 Ke5 64.Bf7 Be4 65.Bg8 Bd5 66.Bh7 b3 67.Ke2 b2 0-1

  

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Reply #28 - 06/19/07 at 05:58:48
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I hate the Barry Attack....I keep losing against it.... Can someone recommend a good line?
  
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Reply #27 - 06/04/07 at 14:22:30
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Ok...How's the Barry doing latley?

I see Hebden hasn't played it recently..(yet, I can't find a serious game that his opponent essayed a KID against him either). All I can find are games where his opponents played an opening with Nf6 and e6.

  
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Reply #26 - 08/24/06 at 09:05:55
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I wanted to let you know about a game I recently played on a weekend tournament. The opponent did not play too well, but nevertheless it is a nice example for a fine Barry victory! I especially enjoyed the mate Smiley

Wisnewski,C (2417) - Kock,S (2193) [D00]
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1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 a6 5.e3 Bg7 6.Be2 0-0 7.Ne5 Nbd7 8.h4 c5 9.h5 cxd4 10.exd4 Qa5 11.hxg6 hxg6 12.Qd2 Re8 13.Bh6 Bh8 14.0-0-0 b5 15.Qf4 b4 16.Nxd5 Nxe5 17.dxe5 Nxd5 18.Rxd5 Qxa2 19.Bc4 Qa1+ 20.Kd2 Qxh1 21.Qxf7+ Kxf7 22.Rd7# 1-0

  

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Reply #25 - 07/05/06 at 19:37:54
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Coming back to the main problem I'd like to make some comments (do please read some amendmets, as I hope) to the A. Summerscale's book "A Killer Chess Opening Repertoire". In my view the problem is why the Author doesn't consider the most obvious continuation in the main line starting with 6...c5, I mean accepting by black a pawn on b2 by playing Qb6 in 8th or even in 7th move. For the first possibility see the game below played by the ex - sparing partner of M. Tal, GMI A. Wojtkiewicz.

M. Oliwa - A. Wojtkiewicz Polish ch Warsaw 1995

1. d4 nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. Bf4 Bg7 5. e3 00 6. Be2 c5 7. Ne5 cd4 8. ed4 Qb6 9. Qd2 Qb2 10. Rb1 Qa3 11. Nb5 Qa2 12. 00 Ne4 13. Qe1 Nc6 14. Ra1 Qb2 15. Rb1 Qc2 16. Bd3 Qa4 17. Ra1 Ne5 18. Ra4 Nd3 19. Qe3 Nf4 20. Qf4 Bd7 21. Rb4 a5 22. Rb2 Rfc8 23. Qe3 a4 24. h3 a3 25. Na3 Rc3 26. Qf4 Rca3 27. Rb7 Be6 28. Rb8+ Rb8 29. Qb8+ Bf8 30. Rb1 Rc3 31. Qa7 Rc8 32. Rd1 h5 33. Qb7 h4 34. Qa7 Nd6 35. Qa3 Bg7 36. Qa7 Bf6 37. Rd3 Kg7 38. Kh1 Rc1+ 39. Kh2 Rc4 40. Kh1 Nh5 0-1

As for the other I checked it with Fritz6 and I can't find a clear path for white to get an advantage after 7... Qb6 8. 00 Qb2. Despite the fact that I find this book quite instructive and useful I'd rather see the way how white should react to this black's set-up. In this line the Author gives only one example, which however, completely misses the point: 7... Qb6 8. Na4 Qa5+ 9. c3 cd4 10. b4 Qd8 11. cd4 +=. Apart from accepting the pawn black isn't made to capture on d4 as shows the game below.

V. Okhotnik - J. Zezulkin Litomyśl 1997

1. Nf3 Nf6 2. d4 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. Bf4 Bg7 5. e3 00 6. Be2 c5 7. Ne5 Qb6 8. Na4 Qa5+ 9. c3 Nfd7! 10. Nc5 Nc5 11. dc5 Qc5 12. Nd3 Qa5 13. Be5 f6 14. Bb8 Rb8 15. Qb3 Be6 16. Bf3 Bf7 17. Qb4 Qc7 18. Qc5 Qc5 19. Nc5 Rbc8 20. Nb3 b6 21. 000 Rfd8 22. Rd2 a5 23. Rhd1 e6 24. Nd4 Kf8 25. Kb1 Ke7 26. h4 Be8 27. Be2 Ba4 28. Rh1 e5 29. Nf3 h5 30. Ne1 Rd6 31. f4 Bd7 32. Bf3 Be6 33. Nc2 Rcd8 34. g3 Bf8 35. Rhd1 Kf7 36. Na3 R6d7 37. Nc2 Bc5 38. a4 Bf8 39. f5 gf5 40. Bh5+ Ke7 41. Bg6 Rc7 42. Rf2 Rc4 43. Bh5 Bh6 44. Bf3 Rc5 45. Be2 Rg8 46. Rg2 f4 47. ef4 Bf4 48. Rdg1 Bh3 49. Bf3 Bh6 50. Re2 Bf5 51. g4 bf4 52. Reg2 Bd7 53. b4 Rc3 54. Bd5 Rac8 55. b5 Be8 56. Kb2 Bg6 57. Bc6 Rd3 58. g5 fg5 59. Ne1 Rd4 60. Nf3 0-1
  
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Reply #24 - 11/18/05 at 14:09:37
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Urusov, Gary Lane: "Ideas behind modern chess openings" has 14 pages on the Barry
  
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Reply #23 - 11/18/05 at 12:08:26
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I am putting together a list of books, articles, and websites related to the Barry Attack.  Other than "A Killer Chess Opening Repertoire," does anyone have any suggestions?   Smiley  It is probably covered or at least mentioned in some KID repertoire books, for instance (Watson's "Unconventional King's Indian Defense" offers a few pages) but other than the "Killer Repertoire" book I've never seen anything very developed.  Full titles and other bibliographic data would be most appreciated!  Thanks.
  
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