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Reply #37 - 06/21/07 at 09:08:45
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"1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Bg7


I'm sorry. This is exactly the line I was refering.
  

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Reply #36 - 06/20/07 at 00:08:34
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Holbox wrote on 06/19/07 at 22:48:55:
Well after 5...Bg7 6.e3 Nh5 then white has a resource in : 7.Bg5 h6 8.Bh4 g5 9.Ne5!?

I think.


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"1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Bg7

[4...Nh5 5.Bg5 Bg7 (5...h6 6.Be3) 6.h3 This was the line I was referring to in the response to Willempie.]

5.e3 Nh5 6.Bg5 h6 7.Bh4 g5 8.Ne5"   ?

In retrospect, there might have been some confusion earlier when the first few moves were not included.
  

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Reply #35 - 06/19/07 at 22:48:55
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Well after 5...Bg7 6.e3 Nh5 then white has a resource in : 7.Bg5 h6 8.Bh4 g5 9.Ne5!?

I think.
  

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Reply #34 - 06/19/07 at 21:00:33
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Indeed that ...Nh5 idea looks interesting. I also like to point out, that White does not have to play the 150-Attack: 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.Bf4 0-0 5.Qd2 postponing e2-e4. Then ...Bg4 makes much less sense.
  

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Re: BARRY ATTACK
Reply #33 - 06/19/07 at 10:14:29
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I must try that Nh5 and your idea out some time, looks interesting.
Maybe cross-reference it with this Grunfeld line (where the inspiration came from): 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.Rc1 Nh5
  

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Reply #32 - 06/19/07 at 10:07:48
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Willempie wrote on 06/19/07 at 09:42:16:
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I much prefer 6.Be3, which I think is more in the Barry spirit of things.  Smiley  Black's development seems a little awkward here to me.  I don't think the creative White player will be too much dispirited by the slight disruption in the configuration of his pieces.  

Maybe, you can always play 5..Bg7 6.e3 and then Nh5.
But I dont see much positive for white after 5..Nh5 6.Bg5 h6 7.Be3 either. The e-pawn is blocked and the bishop looks a bit weird. I think 7..Bg7 (with eg f5 to follow if possible aiming for a sorta stonewall with the pawn on e7) looks decent enough.
Possible too is 6..f6 to avoid any knights plonking on e5. Though I dont really like that one.


After 5...Bg7, I would prefer to play the more flexible 6.h3.  One of my ideas after 6.Be3 is to play for h3 and g4, followed perhaps by Ne5.  (Bg2 might even be a possibility later.)  The g4 idea can also be dangerous against an ...f5 stonewall attempt.  Another idea is that Qd2 can prevent kingside castling, demonstrating ...h6 as a weakness.
  

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Reply #31 - 06/19/07 at 09:42:16
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I much prefer 6.Be3, which I think is more in the Barry spirit of things.  Smiley  Black's development seems a little awkward here to me.  I don't think the creative White player will be too much dispirited by the slight disruption in the configuration of his pieces.  

Maybe, you can always play 5..Bg7 6.e3 and then Nh5.
But I dont see much positive for white after 5..Nh5 6.Bg5 h6 7.Be3 either. The e-pawn is blocked and the bishop looks a bit weird. I think 7..Bg7 (with eg f5 to follow if possible aiming for a sorta stonewall with the pawn on e7) looks decent enough.
Possible too is 6..f6 to avoid any knights plonking on e5. Though I dont really like that one.
  

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Reply #30 - 06/19/07 at 08:50:05
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Willempie wrote on 06/19/07 at 08:09:13:
sssthepro wrote on 06/19/07 at 05:58:48:
I hate the Barry Attack....I keep losing against it.... Can someone recommend a good line?

5...Nh5 cant be that bad:
[Event "Mediterranean-ch 4th"]
[Site "Cannes"]
[Date "2007.02.18"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Collas,Silvia"]
[Black "Djukic,Nikola"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Eco "D00"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Nh5 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 g5 7.Bg3 Bg7 8.e3 Nxg3
9.hxg3 c6 10.Bd3 Qb6 11.a3 Bg4 12.Qc1 Nd7 13.Nh2 Be6 14.b4 f6 15.g4 Bf7 16.Nf1 h5 17.gxh5 Rxh5 18.Rxh5 Bxh5 19.Ng3 Bf7 20.Na4 Qc7 21.c4 dxc4 22.Bxc4 e6 23.Nc5 Ke7 24.Qc2 Rh8 25.Qe4 Nxc5 26.bxc5 Kd7 27.Rb1 b5 28.cxb6 axb6 29.a4 Qa7 30.Qc2 Ke7 31.Qb3 Qa5+ 32.Kf1 Rb8 33.Qa3+ Kd7 34.Ne4 Bf8 35.Nxf6+ Kc7 36.Qd3 Qxa4 37.Kg1 Qa3 38.Qc2 Kd8 39.Ng4 Qd6 40.Qh7 Qe7 41.Ne5 Be8 42.Qg8 Kc7 43.Ra1 Kb7 44.Qxe6 Qxe6 45.Bxe6 Bg7 46.Nc4 Rd8 47.g4 Bg6 48.Ra3 b5 49.Na5+ Kb6 50.Nb3 Bf8 51.Ra1 Bb4 52.f3 Re8 53.Nc5 Bxc5 54.dxc5+ Kxc5 55.Bd7 Rxe3 56.Rc1+ Kd4 57.Rxc6 Bd3 58.Kf2 Re5 59.f4 gxf4 60.Rd6+ Rd5 61.Rxd5+ Kxd5 62.g5 b4 63.Be8 Ke5 64.Bf7 Be4 65.Bg8 Bd5 66.Bh7 b3 67.Ke2 b2 0-1



I much prefer 6.Be3, which I think is more in the Barry spirit of things.  Smiley  Black's development seems a little awkward here to me.  I don't think the creative White player will be too much dispirited by the slight disruption in the configuration of his pieces. 

You might want to check out an old archived online article on the 150 and Barry Attacks written by Andrew Martin many years ago:

http://web.archive.org/web/20000306110513/internetchess.com/columns/amartin/150b...

The precise move order recommended here (5...Bg4!) is often ignored in the available literature on the Barry Attack (...Bg4 is often given after castling), so it's worth checking out for either side.  Also Blatny-E. Ragozin is a simply just a very nice game to play through.
  

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Re: BARRY ATTACK
Reply #29 - 06/19/07 at 08:09:13
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sssthepro wrote on 06/19/07 at 05:58:48:
I hate the Barry Attack....I keep losing against it.... Can someone recommend a good line?

5...Nh5 cant be that bad:
[Event "Mediterranean-ch 4th"]
[Site "Cannes"]
[Date "2007.02.18"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Collas,Silvia"]
[Black "Djukic,Nikola"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Eco "D00"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Nh5 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 g5 7.Bg3 Bg7 8.e3 Nxg3
9.hxg3 c6 10.Bd3 Qb6 11.a3 Bg4 12.Qc1 Nd7 13.Nh2 Be6 14.b4 f6 15.g4 Bf7 16.Nf1 h5 17.gxh5 Rxh5 18.Rxh5 Bxh5 19.Ng3 Bf7 20.Na4 Qc7 21.c4 dxc4 22.Bxc4 e6 23.Nc5 Ke7 24.Qc2 Rh8 25.Qe4 Nxc5 26.bxc5 Kd7 27.Rb1 b5 28.cxb6 axb6 29.a4 Qa7 30.Qc2 Ke7 31.Qb3 Qa5+ 32.Kf1 Rb8 33.Qa3+ Kd7 34.Ne4 Bf8 35.Nxf6+ Kc7 36.Qd3 Qxa4 37.Kg1 Qa3 38.Qc2 Kd8 39.Ng4 Qd6 40.Qh7 Qe7 41.Ne5 Be8 42.Qg8 Kc7 43.Ra1 Kb7 44.Qxe6 Qxe6 45.Bxe6 Bg7 46.Nc4 Rd8 47.g4 Bg6 48.Ra3 b5 49.Na5+ Kb6 50.Nb3 Bf8 51.Ra1 Bb4 52.f3 Re8 53.Nc5 Bxc5 54.dxc5+ Kxc5 55.Bd7 Rxe3 56.Rc1+ Kd4 57.Rxc6 Bd3 58.Kf2 Re5 59.f4 gxf4 60.Rd6+ Rd5 61.Rxd5+ Kxd5 62.g5 b4 63.Be8 Ke5 64.Bf7 Be4 65.Bg8 Bd5 66.Bh7 b3 67.Ke2 b2 0-1

  

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Reply #28 - 06/19/07 at 05:58:48
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I hate the Barry Attack....I keep losing against it.... Can someone recommend a good line?
  
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Reply #27 - 06/04/07 at 14:22:30
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Ok...How's the Barry doing latley?

I see Hebden hasn't played it recently..(yet, I can't find a serious game that his opponent essayed a KID against him either). All I can find are games where his opponents played an opening with Nf6 and e6.

  
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Reply #26 - 08/24/06 at 09:05:55
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I wanted to let you know about a game I recently played on a weekend tournament. The opponent did not play too well, but nevertheless it is a nice example for a fine Barry victory! I especially enjoyed the mate Smiley

Wisnewski,C (2417) - Kock,S (2193) [D00]
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1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 a6 5.e3 Bg7 6.Be2 0-0 7.Ne5 Nbd7 8.h4 c5 9.h5 cxd4 10.exd4 Qa5 11.hxg6 hxg6 12.Qd2 Re8 13.Bh6 Bh8 14.0-0-0 b5 15.Qf4 b4 16.Nxd5 Nxe5 17.dxe5 Nxd5 18.Rxd5 Qxa2 19.Bc4 Qa1+ 20.Kd2 Qxh1 21.Qxf7+ Kxf7 22.Rd7# 1-0

  

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Reply #25 - 07/05/06 at 19:37:54
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Coming back to the main problem I'd like to make some comments (do please read some amendmets, as I hope) to the A. Summerscale's book "A Killer Chess Opening Repertoire". In my view the problem is why the Author doesn't consider the most obvious continuation in the main line starting with 6...c5, I mean accepting by black a pawn on b2 by playing Qb6 in 8th or even in 7th move. For the first possibility see the game below played by the ex - sparing partner of M. Tal, GMI A. Wojtkiewicz.

M. Oliwa - A. Wojtkiewicz Polish ch Warsaw 1995

1. d4 nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. Bf4 Bg7 5. e3 00 6. Be2 c5 7. Ne5 cd4 8. ed4 Qb6 9. Qd2 Qb2 10. Rb1 Qa3 11. Nb5 Qa2 12. 00 Ne4 13. Qe1 Nc6 14. Ra1 Qb2 15. Rb1 Qc2 16. Bd3 Qa4 17. Ra1 Ne5 18. Ra4 Nd3 19. Qe3 Nf4 20. Qf4 Bd7 21. Rb4 a5 22. Rb2 Rfc8 23. Qe3 a4 24. h3 a3 25. Na3 Rc3 26. Qf4 Rca3 27. Rb7 Be6 28. Rb8+ Rb8 29. Qb8+ Bf8 30. Rb1 Rc3 31. Qa7 Rc8 32. Rd1 h5 33. Qb7 h4 34. Qa7 Nd6 35. Qa3 Bg7 36. Qa7 Bf6 37. Rd3 Kg7 38. Kh1 Rc1+ 39. Kh2 Rc4 40. Kh1 Nh5 0-1

As for the other I checked it with Fritz6 and I can't find a clear path for white to get an advantage after 7... Qb6 8. 00 Qb2. Despite the fact that I find this book quite instructive and useful I'd rather see the way how white should react to this black's set-up. In this line the Author gives only one example, which however, completely misses the point: 7... Qb6 8. Na4 Qa5+ 9. c3 cd4 10. b4 Qd8 11. cd4 +=. Apart from accepting the pawn black isn't made to capture on d4 as shows the game below.

V. Okhotnik - J. Zezulkin Litomyśl 1997

1. Nf3 Nf6 2. d4 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. Bf4 Bg7 5. e3 00 6. Be2 c5 7. Ne5 Qb6 8. Na4 Qa5+ 9. c3 Nfd7! 10. Nc5 Nc5 11. dc5 Qc5 12. Nd3 Qa5 13. Be5 f6 14. Bb8 Rb8 15. Qb3 Be6 16. Bf3 Bf7 17. Qb4 Qc7 18. Qc5 Qc5 19. Nc5 Rbc8 20. Nb3 b6 21. 000 Rfd8 22. Rd2 a5 23. Rhd1 e6 24. Nd4 Kf8 25. Kb1 Ke7 26. h4 Be8 27. Be2 Ba4 28. Rh1 e5 29. Nf3 h5 30. Ne1 Rd6 31. f4 Bd7 32. Bf3 Be6 33. Nc2 Rcd8 34. g3 Bf8 35. Rhd1 Kf7 36. Na3 R6d7 37. Nc2 Bc5 38. a4 Bf8 39. f5 gf5 40. Bh5+ Ke7 41. Bg6 Rc7 42. Rf2 Rc4 43. Bh5 Bh6 44. Bf3 Rc5 45. Be2 Rg8 46. Rg2 f4 47. ef4 Bf4 48. Rdg1 Bh3 49. Bf3 Bh6 50. Re2 Bf5 51. g4 bf4 52. Reg2 Bd7 53. b4 Rc3 54. Bd5 Rac8 55. b5 Be8 56. Kb2 Bg6 57. Bc6 Rd3 58. g5 fg5 59. Ne1 Rd4 60. Nf3 0-1
  
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Reply #24 - 11/18/05 at 14:09:37
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Urusov, Gary Lane: "Ideas behind modern chess openings" has 14 pages on the Barry
  
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Reply #23 - 11/18/05 at 12:08:26
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I am putting together a list of books, articles, and websites related to the Barry Attack.  Other than "A Killer Chess Opening Repertoire," does anyone have any suggestions?   Smiley  It is probably covered or at least mentioned in some KID repertoire books, for instance (Watson's "Unconventional King's Indian Defense" offers a few pages) but other than the "Killer Repertoire" book I've never seen anything very developed.  Full titles and other bibliographic data would be most appreciated!  Thanks.
  
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Reply #22 - 05/23/05 at 11:17:08
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I am very curious as to what the time control of the Suttercane vs Tyomkin game was. Grin

Could it have been played in the Master's challenge on WCN perhaps. Indeed was it played on the WCN server at all.

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Reply #21 - 05/23/05 at 05:37:25
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The Barry Attack (reversed)

This weekend i played an OTB game in this way:


1. Nf3 {What to do against the KIA? Let's go for a 150 attack reversed!} 1...d5 2. g3 Nc6
{Threatening e5.} 3. d4 {White avoids black intentions but he didn't know about Barry}
3...Bf5 4. Bg2 Nf6 5. O-O e6 6. b3
{Very slow play against the aggresive black setup.} 6...Be7 7. Nbd2 {The absence of pressure against black's center allows the "killer" attack.} 7...h5
8. Bb2 Ne4 9. c4 h4 10. Ne5 Nxe5 {This exchange helps black attack}
11. dxe5 hxg3 12. hxg3 Ng5 13. Rc1 Nh3+ 14. Bxh3 Bxh3
{Killing the best defender.} 15. Re1  15...Qd7 16. e4 {White adds more pressure against black center but..., it's too late.} 16...Bg5?  {Obviously 16...0-0-0 or 16...d5 was better.} 17. cxd5 exd5 18. Rc5 Be6 19. Nf3 Be7 20.
Rc1 O-O-O 21. Nd4 dxe4 22. Qc2 Bd5 23. e6 fxe6 24. Ne2 {from here all the fish has been sold.} 24...Bf6 {24...e3 wins inmediatly} 25. Bxf6 gxf6 26. Nf4 Qh7 27. Kf1 Qh1+ 0-1

What do you think about the "Black Barry"?

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Reply #20 - 05/10/04 at 06:34:08
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Paul Hopwood: "Hebden still has occassional outings with THE BARRY".

Paul, this is not correct! GM Hebden is playing THE BARRY each time his opponent allow to play the Barry Attack!

GM Hebden is having great success with THE BARRY.
Only in the critical system (9...Nfd7, 11...Be6) he is waiting for his first victory, after a row of draws!
He should give 13.Re1...a try, instead of 13.Qb3.
On the other hand: why not 10.Nc6...instead of 10.Nd5..

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Reply #19 - 05/10/04 at 00:22:37
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I don't think SutterCane meant to imply that 4...d5 was my invention, but I just wanted to make it clear that it wasn't my idea.  I was just the person who brought up the possibility here.
  
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Reply #18 - 05/09/04 at 21:44:59
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Glenn Snow's 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d5

I was very surprised that a Grandmaster came up with this line in an internet game:

SutterCane vs GM Tyomkin (16 Feb 2004)

5.e5 Ne4 6.Ne4 de 7.Ng5 c5 8.Bb5 Bd7 9.Bc4 o-o 10.e6 fe 11.Be6 Kh8 12.Be3 Qe8 13.dc Bc6 14.Bd4 Nd7 15.Bd7 Qd7 16.Bg7 Kg7 17.Qd7 Bd7 18.o-o-o Bf5 19.Rhe1 rad8 20.Rd8 and BLACK resigned!

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Reply #17 - 05/09/04 at 17:38:21
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Dr Jan Itor: "Is this the end of the BARRY?"

Of course not! The game HEBDEN-ROWSON, Hastings 2004 is not a CRITICAL GAME.

Hebden played badly 12.o-o-o and lost.

The BARRY World is in the system 7.Ne5 cd 8.ed Nfd7 very fine!

Take a look at 3 games:

1. Juegel-Pitigala, WICC Dubai 2002 (17...Qc6)
...9.Nf3 Nf6 10.Qd2 Nc6 11.Ne5 Bf5 12.o-o Rc8 13.Rac1 Qa5 14.Bf3 Rfd8 15.a3 Qb6 16.Na4 Qb5 17.Nc6 "Qc6" 18.Nc5 Ne4 19.Be4 de 20.c3 e5 21.Bg5 Rd6 22.Bh6 b6 etc.

2. Juegel-Matisson, WICC Dubai 2002 (17...Rc6)
...17...Rc6 18.b3 Ne4 19.Qd1 Qa5 20.c3 b5 21.Be4 de 22.Nc5 Qa3 23.Qe2 Rc5 etc.

3. Hebden-Webb,Portsmouth 2004 (11...Be6)
...11.Ne5 Be6 12.Nc6 bc 13.o-o Nd7 14.Na4 a5 15.Rfe1 Qc8 16.Rac1 Qb7 17.c3 Rfc8 18.Bf3 c5 19.Nc5 Nc5 20.dc Rc5 etc.

THE BARRY is still alive!!!

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Reply #16 - 04/22/04 at 21:07:13
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In the Hebden-Nunn game Black did go back to f6 and Hebden eventually answered it with Qd2 (instead of Ne5 repeating).  Summerscale mentions 14...Nc6!? 15.0-0-0 in his notes to the game, is that what Black should try to improve?  For the record here is the game:
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.e3 0-0 6.Be2 c5 7.Ne5 cxd4 8.exd4 Nfd7 9.Nf3 Nf6 10.Ne5 Nfd7 11.Nf3 Nf6 12.Qd2 Bg4 (11...Bf5!?) 13.Ne5 Bxe2 14.Qxe2 Nh5 15.Be3 Nc6 16.0-0-0 Rc8 17.f4 Nf6 18.g4 Qa5 19.a3 Nxe5? 20.fxe5 Rxc3 21.exf6 Rfc8 22.Kb1! Rxc2 23.Rd2 1-0.
  
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Reply #15 - 04/22/04 at 15:21:14
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The reason why Hebden deviated is because black jsut returns the Knight to f6 and white has nothing better than to take a draw.

In fairness The ...Nfd7! idea has been around for sometime and indeed seemed to lead to Hebden dropping The Barry full stop, although he still has occassional outings with it.

It would seem that now that black players deem the opening as worthy of preparation, that The Barry's time is up, although at club level, I imagine it will remain a good points-scoring weapon
  
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Reply #14 - 03/01/04 at 18:41:46
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Hebden beat Nunn with the retreat 9.Nf3 at Hastings 97/98.  The game is analysed in "a killer chess opening repertoire".  I'm not sure why he decided to deviate.
  
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Reply #13 - 03/01/04 at 06:02:03
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Is this the end of the Barry Attack?

Hebden,M (2560) - Rowson,J (2541) [D00]
Premier Hastings ENG (7), 03.01.2004

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.e3 0-0 6.Be2 c5 7.Ne5 cxd4 8.exd4 Nfd7! 9.Qd2 Nxe5 10.dxe5 d4 11.Nb5 Nc6 12.0-0-0 Qd5 13.c4 Qxg2 14.h4 Bf5 15.Nxd4 Qe4 16.Nxf5 Qxf5 17.Bd3 Qe6 18.Rhe1 Rfd8 19.Qc3 Rd4 20.Be3 Rxh4 21.f4 Bh6 22.Qd2 Rd8 23.Qf2 Qh3 24.Kb1 Bxf4 25.e6 f6 26.Bxf4 Rxd3 27.Rxd3 Qxd3+ 28.Ka1 Nd4 29.Rc1 Rh5 30.b3 Rf5 31.Qd2 Qxd2 32.Bxd2 Nxe6 33.Be3 b6 34.b4 Re5 35.Bg1 Kf7 36.Kb2 Nf4 37.Rd1 Ke8 38.c5 bxc5 39.Bxc5 a6 40.Kb3 Rd5 41.Rc1 Nd3 42.Rc2 Nxc5+ 43.bxc5 Kd7 44.Kb4 Kc6 45.a4 h5 0-1

  
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Re: BARRY ATTACK
Reply #12 - 03/01/04 at 01:39:09
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[quote author=RedIvan  link=1041739528/0#11 date=1078091020]Series question: What exactly is the Barry Attack?

Is it a kind of Veresov?

Thanks.[/quote]

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4. If Black doesn't know what he's doing then White can get a very crude but effective K-side attack going with moves like Be2, Ne5, & h4-h5.
  
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Reply #11 - 02/29/04 at 21:43:40
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Series question: What exactly is the Barry Attack?

Is it a kind of Veresov?

Thanks.
  
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Reply #10 - 10/15/03 at 18:45:49
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1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7!? 4.e4 d5!?.  I checked out this line using a search of the big database in ChessBase 8.0 and came up with 6 recent wins for White (all rated at least 2300+; Hebden included here) and the only reply was 5.e5. I guess that tells us something.
  
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Reply #9 - 10/07/03 at 07:20:12
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Hebden's method is probably the way to go.  Note this variation is nearly the same as:  1.e4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nc3 c6 4.Nf3 d5 5.h3 Nf6 6.e5 Ne4 7.Nxe4 dxe4 8.Ng5 c5.  The only difference being White has been able to play h3 here.  I looked this up in "The Ultimate Pirc" which actually liked Black's chances for equality, but its a tricky variation.  I don't know how much the ommission of h3 hurts (helps?).
  
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Re: BARRY ATTACK
Reply #8 - 10/06/03 at 20:15:28
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Yeah, I think you have a point.  It seems that white's center is more difficult to maintain than I thought.  After 7.c4 Qd6 8. Be2, I plans with an early c5 will usually lead early simplification with equality.  Though, I think Black can play for more by keeping the tension with a plan based on ...Nc6 and ....Bg4 as in this game:

[Event "RLPF-op"]
[Site "Herxheim"]
[Date "1993.??.??"]
[Round "0"]
[White "Leuranguer,Yannick"]
[Black "Turner,Tassilo"]
[Result "1/2"]
[Eco "B02"]
1.e4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.exd5 Nxd5 4.d4 g6 5.Nf3 Bg7 6.Nxd5 Qxd5 7.c4 Qd6 8.Be2 0-0
9.0-0 Bg4 10.Be3 e6 11.Qb3 Nc6 12.Rad1 Rfd8 13.d5 exd5 14.Rxd5 Qb4 15.Qxb4 Nxb4 16.Rb5 Nc2
17.Bf4 b6 18.Bxc7 Rd7 19.Be5  1/2
(Note the position arrived from the Alekhine's Defense, so this may be of relevance to players of 2.Nc3.)

Isn't white trouble after 19...a6?  White made natural moves in this game and seemed to have no advantage.  It seemed to me like black had everything covered.  Another idea for black after 8.Be2 is the disruptive 8...Qb4+.  9.Kf1 and 9.Qd2 Nc6 look good for black.  Of course, the test is 9.Bd2 but after ...Qxb2 10. Rb1 Qa3 does white have enough compensation?

If found a couple of games of Hebden's against Stuart Conquest and Luke McShane (Perhaps not that surprising since McShane plays the Grunfeld and the positions of the above variation are similar).

Hebden's plan with 5.e4 Ne4 (otherwise it seems like black gets squashed) 6. Nxe4 dxe4 7. Ng5 looks convincing upon first impression:

[Event "BCF-ch 85th"]
[Site "Torquay"]
[Date "1998.08.??"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Hebden,Mark"]
[Black "Conquest,Stuart"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "A48"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d5 5.e5 Ne4 6.Nxe4 dxe4 7.Ng5 c5 8.e6 Bxe6
9.Nxe6 fxe6 10.dxc5 Qa5+ 11.c3 Nd7 12.Bd2 Qxc5 13.Qb3 0-0 14.Be3 Qf5 15.0-0-0 Nc5 16.Qb5 Rac8
17.Rd2 a6 18.Qb4 a5 19.Qb5 a4 20.Qb4 Rc7 21.Bb5 Nd3+ 22.Bxd3 exd3 23.Rhd1 Qd5 24.Qxa4 b5
25.Qb3 Qxg2 26.Qxe6+ Kh8 27.Rxd3 Qa8 28.Bd4 Bxd4 29.Rxd4 Ra7 30.Kb1 Kg7 31.Qe5+ Rf6 32.Rd7 Rxd7
33.Rxd7 Qh1+ 34.Kc2 Kh6 35.Qe3+ g5 36.Qh3+ Kg6 37.Qd3+ Rf5 38.Rxe7 Qf3 39.Re6+ Kh5 40.Qd6 Kg4
41.Kb3 Qxf2 42.Rh6 Rf7 43.h3+ Kf3 44.Qd5+ Kg3 45.Qxg5+ Kh2 46.Qe5+ Kg2 47.Qe4+ Kh2 48.Qc2 
1-0

[Event "Iona Tech Masters"]
[Site "Kilkenny"]
[Date "1998.11.27"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Hebden,Mark"]
[Black "McShane,Luke J"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "A48"]
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d5 5.e5 Ne4 6.Nxe4 dxe4 7.Ng5 c5 8.d5 Bxe5
9.Nxe4 0-0 10.c3 Nd7 11.Bh6 Re8 12.Bb5 e6 13.0-0 exd5 14.Qxd5 a6 15.Bc4 Qe7 16.Ng5 Bxh2+
17.Kxh2 Ne5 18.Rae1 Ng4+ 19.Kg1 Be6 20.Nxe6 Qh4 21.Bf4 b5 22.Bg3  1-0

Hebden is a good example to look to, since he is one of the leading exponents of the Barry Attack.
  

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Re: BARRY ATTACK
Reply #7 - 10/05/03 at 22:31:50
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Actually the line with c4 was my first attempt at advantage also, but I'm not too sure it's so simple now.  What about  7...Qd6 with the idea of attacking the d-pawn with moves like ...Bg4, ...o-o and ...Rd8, and/or ...c5?
  
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Reply #6 - 10/04/03 at 01:44:38
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One question that I had concerning the Barry Attack is:  1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7!? 4.e4 d5!?.  Does anyway have an idea on the best way to play against this?

5. exd5 Nxd5 6. Nxd5 Qxd5 7. c4 looks good to me.
  

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Reply #5 - 10/02/03 at 23:36:06
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One question that I had concerning the Barry Attack is:  1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7!? 4.e4 d5!?.  Does anyway have an idea on the best way to play against this?
  
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Reply #4 - 10/02/03 at 23:33:52
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I usually prefer not to move my Queen to d2 in the Barry attack because it is usually harder to transfer it near the vicinity of Black's kingside for an attack, remember the Bg4,Qf3,Qh3 idea for example.
  
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Reply #3 - 07/28/03 at 21:44:41
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For the guys who bought "A Killer Chess Opening Repertoire", like me, there does not seem to be any mention of 5.Qd2 in the Barry Attack. However, there is a stem game with 5.Qd2 in the 150 Attack on p.39 of that book.
  
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Reply #2 - 06/14/03 at 19:24:43
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In both Lane and Summerscale's books they say the Barry Attack is used against the KID. Why is that? After black skips d6 and goes to d5, isn't that really a Grunfeld? If black plays d6, white is recommended to play e4 and switch the game into a 150 Attack against the Pirc.
  
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Re: BARRY ATTACK...5.Qd2...
Reply #1 - 03/07/03 at 14:09:05
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What is your opinion about the 5.Qd2...variation?
At first sight I like a fast 0-0-0 versus blacks 0-0.
Kasparov's 5...Ne4 can be answered with 6.Ne4 de and 7.Ng5 leads to very interesting unbalanced positions if White wishes!
F.e. 7...h6, 8.Ne4 g5, 9.Be5 f6, 10.Bg3 f5, 11.Ng5: hg
12.Qg5 etc

Do you have interesting ideas or experience ???

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BARRY ATTACK
01/04/03 at 23:05:27
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I open this topic for fans of THE BARRY ATTACK.

There is a lot to discuss...

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