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Re: Recommend book!!
Reply #58 - 01/18/08 at 17:55:02
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Bibs wrote on 01/18/08 at 01:47:34:
Further to winawer's comments.
Regarding an anti-KID g3 line - possible to just run Wojtkievic's (sp?)Fianchetto KID games through Bookup. Hey presto. 
See chessgames.com if you dont have Cbase.

Anti-slav. Wait for the Vigus book but till then.... Exchange Slav a worthy weapon. See Kraai games. More exalted level - Moro in Russian Champs.


Isn't the Vigus book a repertoire for Black?
  

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Reply #57 - 01/18/08 at 01:47:34
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Further to winawer's comments.
Regarding an anti-KID g3 line - possible to just run Wojtkievic's (sp?)Fianchetto KID games through Bookup. Hey presto. 
See chessgames.com if you dont have Cbase.

Anti-slav. Wait for the Vigus book but till then.... Exchange Slav a worthy weapon. See Kraai games. More exalted level - Moro in Russian Champs.
  
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Reply #56 - 01/17/08 at 20:13:14
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Tony Kosten recently said on John Watson's Chess talk that he is writing part of a book on Dangerous Weapons in the English.
  

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Reply #55 - 01/17/08 at 17:49:02
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I think the updated version should stick to the complete repertoire approach. We have just received Everyman's 'Play the English' which only gives a partial repertoire.

If The Dynamic English II ever see the light of day, here are my personal suggestions, for what its worth.

1) A repertoire based on 1.c4 and 2.Nc3/Nf3 - this would give a nice alternative to the always playable 2.g3 lines of the original version.

2) Perhaps the Rev Sicilian/English setup with c4/d3 Bg5xf6 against the King's Indian, even though Donaldson's Strategic Opening Repertoire book recommends this. Alternatively, transpose to a sideline of the Fianchetto KID (ie, with d4, but played late enough to avoid the Grunfeld, if this is possible).

3) Despite other comments - I like the DE rep against 1...c6 and 1...e6 so I wouldn't necessarily change this for their own sake. However, in the interests of providing something different, the 1.c4 c6 2.Nf3 d5 3.e3 Nf6 and the Catalan would be obvious choices.
  
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Reply #54 - 07/05/07 at 13:49:12
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The Dynamic Catalan has a nice ring to it.  But that really is a book in itself.  Mind you, I have been playing 1.Nf3 2.c4 3.g3 against e6/Nf6/d5, so I presume 1.c4 2.g3 3.Nf3 would fit with the original repertoire plan.  Looking at the suggestions above, how much overlap would there be with Khalifman's Kramnik repertoire?
  

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Reply #53 - 07/05/07 at 08:32:23
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I think that it would be far more realistic to write a repertoire starting with 1 c4 but not be like how it was in the first edition as i am not overly convinced with 1...c6 lines.

I would suggest that the most untheoretical anti slav lines would be to go  3 Nf3 and 4 e3 a la Kramnik and Topalov as it's not that theoretical. Altermatively go for 2 e4 !

I know it would expand the book but I would do the Catalan !  I know you'll increase the size of the book if you do this but it would last as a recommendation. Who knows - you might even get some more sales if you cover this.

Your biggest challenge would be updating the symmetrical and the reverse sicilian !

Hopefully, you'll write the sequel. Perhaps - call it the Superdynamic English !

  
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Reply #52 - 07/05/07 at 03:39:55
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 02/19/07 at 00:29:16:

Seriously, though, yes I have made a number of corrections and additions, but I have also started playing things like the Catalan against 1...e6 players, and reverted to playing 2 e4 against 1...c6, which wouldn't fit into an English Opening repertoire book at all!
I have another idea, what about writing an incomplete 'repertoire book', just picking a number of exciting systems for White without any attempt to make them a homogenous whole? Would it work? Undecided


Actually, that would be exactly the kind of book I would buy (and hopefully study as well.) You've already done the whole repertoire thing. My experience with repertoire books is that the authors are usually so obsessed with giving "whole repertoires" that they end up wasting valuable space on quite irrelevant stuff.

I have to admit though that for quite a time I was hooked like a junkie on your Dynamic English. It's a wonderful read and fully deserves its almost cult status.
  
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Reply #51 - 05/02/07 at 06:05:23
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Hi Tony, 
I'm an amateur with ELO 2050.

In my opinion, the success factor for the book was offering a complete repertoire.
The second edition should therefore be a complete repertoire, too.

The variations should be updatet if necessary or new variations should be choosed. So the readers have two choices.

Personally, I won 9 games, drawed 4 games and lost 3 games with the recommended repertoire.

The part with the 1..e5-variations was excellent,but I found it sometimes very difficult to obtain winning chances with the Botwinnik-System.
In the 1.... c5 -Variations i found it also difficult to find promising ways.
I had no self-confidence in the KI, 1...e6, 1... c6-variations.

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Reply #50 - 04/01/07 at 17:56:00
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 01/07/03 at 04:29:19:
Well, I wholeheartedly agree with that!! Wink
Seriously, though, maybe it is time for an updated version?


A whole-heartedly endorse a 2nd edition of your book, GM Kosten. Loved the first edition.

Recommendations for a 2nd edition:

1) a few annotated games for each section, perhaps just two to show the basic  middlegames and/or endgame ideas, since I am a patzer and cannot get anough annotated games

2) several puzzle positions for each section highlighting recurring tactical/strategic motifs that often arise, for the same reason as above (my patzerness)

3) THE TEN MOST IMPORTANT ENGLISH GAMES TO KNOW - ten deeply annotated games which are critical to understanding how to play the English. Botvinnik-Portisch Monte Carlo 1968 comes to mind immediately for the Reversed Dragon
  
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Reply #49 - 02/19/07 at 13:38:01
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I think the systems against 1....e5 work very well and you can safely stick with those and just upgrade the theory. I would suggest 2 Nf3 against 1....c5 with an early d4. Personally I like the idea of an early d4 against 1...c6 and 1...e6 with a Slav or QGD. I am not sure the Catalan is so "dynamic"  Smiley
  

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Reply #48 - 02/19/07 at 10:30:26
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Tony - I swear I'll read every page! Honest.....

But for example, if you were to use the Catalan wouldn't you introduce lots of other theory that the first book avoided?  Aside from the Cat itself, things like 1.c4 e6 2.d4 f5 would crop up, or do you prefer a different move order with 2.g3 maybe? 

I've already confessed to using and abusing the Botvinnik system in too many different scenarios, so I'm too accustomed to having my pawn on d3 rather than d4 - it's going to be a bit of a culture shock to start playing with d4....   

I guess I'd buy either book you propose but ultimately would prefer the more complete rep volume even if it doesn't promise White advantageous or exciting positions - familiarity with the position counts more for me than the promise of cut and thrust, if that's a reasonable way to express what I mean.

  
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Reply #47 - 02/19/07 at 10:02:38
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 02/19/07 at 00:29:16:


Seriously, though, yes I have made a number of corrections and additions, but I have also started playing things like the Catalan against 1...e6 players, and reverted to playing 2 e4 against 1...c6, which wouldn't fit into an English Opening repertoire book at all!
I have another idea, what about writing an incomplete 'repertoire book', just picking a number of exciting systems for White without any attempt to make them a homogenous whole? Would it work? Undecided


Why not make a 'realistic' rep book - i.e. give a repertoire of what you think is best or most promising irrespective of whether it's in fact the real English, or transposes to a Reti, QG, Catalan, Colle-Zukertort, Caro-Kann or whatever. 
If it's well explained regarding plans and thematics the theory part wouldn't need to cover everything. Though it would probably become less a repertoire and more a teaching of how to play positional chess...
  Undecided
  
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Reply #46 - 02/19/07 at 06:27:05
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Hi Tony, great to hear you are considering a sequel to your book, which I like and still use a lot! Here are some of my thoughts. Some have been addressed before, some not:

- I'd love to see a book where the opening-repertoire of volume I is 'refined'. In that sense it wouldn't be necessary to write a new repertoire-book, but just to improve suggestions and ideas in selected lines.

- I think the lines suggested in the symmetrical variation 1.c4 c5 are too harmless. Maybe mainlines with d2-d4 are an idea? Watson seems to think they are promising for white, it would be nice to hear your thoughts here.

- I also like to meet 1.c4 c6 with 2.e4, because of 2...d5 3.exd cxd 4.cxd Nf6 5.Qa4+ which I've been doing well with. The problem is that black can go 1.c4 Nf6 2.g3 c6 3.Bg2 d5 4. Nf3 when we are back to the problem of 4..dxc, which have been addressed above and in this thread: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1082723263

- Against 1..e6 there is a similar problem after 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 e6 3.g3 dxc4!? See this thread: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1153817559/0 but in general I like your suggestions here.

- Maybe some suggestions against blacks solid e6,d5,c6,Nf6 setup are worth some lines.

- Against the KID your suggestion works wonders! No problem there.

- I'd like to know if you are still playing your suggested lines against the English Defence? I often feel my center crumbles with white lagging in development, but I probably haven't studied the positions properly.

- Maybe 1.c4 e5 2.g3 Nf6 3.Bg2 c6 4.d4 exd4 5.Qxd4 Na6 also should be addressed..
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Re: Recommend book!!
Reply #45 - 02/19/07 at 06:21:55
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 02/19/07 at 00:29:16:
slates wrote on 02/17/07 at 19:27:19:
 I hope this book eventually gets written!!

If it was, would you promise to go 'through it cover to cover systematically'? Smiley
Seriously, though, yes I have made a number of corrections and additions, but I have also started playing things like the Catalan against 1...e6 players, and reverted to playing 2 e4 against 1...c6, which wouldn't fit into an English Opening repertoire book at all!
I have another idea, what about writing an incomplete 'repertoire book', just picking a number of exciting systems for White without any attempt to make them a homogenous whole? Would it work? Undecided


But doesn't it take two to play the english? The Catalan and 2.e4 vs 1...c6 are as fine as the Reti alternatives. In Davies' Reti book he advocated 2.e4 vs the modern.

An incomplete repertoire book? Dangerous weapons, but only for white? It would perhaps work, but one of the most difficult things with the english is to form a homogenous whole. I feel that guidance to that direction is what many amateurs like. One of the reasons your book was so popular was that it was a (rather) complete repertoire.
  

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Reply #44 - 02/19/07 at 01:39:09
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Sure, as long as the writer points out the holes and indicates what possibilities the reader has to meet them. In fact Eric Schiller did this in one of his decent books, on the Catalan. Example:

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 Bb4+
"I recommend transposition to the Bogo-Indian/Queen's Indian with 4.Bd2. Here is a summary of the theory after 4.Bd2:" Follows slightly more than 1 page. The Tarrasch/Semi-Tarrasch got the same treatment.
This also gives the author the opportunity to advertise for other fine books of his publisher.  Wink
  

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