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Re: Anti-Marshall 8.h3!?
Reply #4 - 06/20/03 at 19:54:03
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Sorry to keep posting in separate messages but I keep finding new stuff. Check out the following three games:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1261626

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1050642

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1128671

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1049225

The first is from the 2003 Dos Hermanas Tournament and follows the path mentioned in my last post. The second also follows the path from my last post and Efim Geller Played Black. The last two were played by (first) Spassky (and second) Geller against Tal. Spassky turns it into a kind of Breyer with the Nc6-b8-d7 maneuver while Geller ends up with a Chigorin-like position using the maneuver Nc6-a5. Take a look at all four and have fun. As aforementioned, unless White plays 9. c3 you really can't end up in a Marshall-type position.
  
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Re: Anti-Marshall 8.h3!?
Reply #3 - 06/20/03 at 19:34:39
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Chessbase has an online database and recent games have gone 8...Bb7 9. d3 d6 10. a3 Re8 11. Nc3 Nd4 and results have been mixed. GM Ivanchuk has played this line several times as Black and he is 1-2 in his last 4 games with 2 draws against Leko and Shirov and 2 losses against Anand (at this year's Amber-rapid) and against Ponomariov (at the 2001 FIDE World Championship Knockout in Moscow)
  
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Re: Anti-Marshall 8.h3!?
Reply #2 - 06/20/03 at 19:23:54
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I don't think there is a way to stay out of the "real Spanish" without seriously compromising your position. John Nunn, who plays the Marshall as Black, gives 8...Bb7 9. d3 (9. c3 allows the Marshall and Nunn gives 9...d5 10. exd5 Nxd5 11. Nxe5 Nxe5 12. Rxe5 Nf4 =+) 9...d6 10. a3 (10. c3 is a sideline of the Flohr-Zaitsev with no real advantage for either side) 10...Qd7 11. Nc3 Rae8 12. Nd5 Na5 13. Nxe7+ Qxe7 14. Ba2 +=

I will try to find some OTB examples to post. Until then, good hunting at finding an antidote.
  
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Re: Anti-Marshall 8.h3!?
Reply #1 - 05/04/03 at 12:48:49
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I don't know much about this, but a couple of my opponents replied 8...Bb7 when I tried the Spanish on ICC... Then there are all sorts of tricks after a further d5, with Nf4 being played, now that aided by the Bishop on b7, g2 is attacked... Maybe only good for rapid games but since nobody bother to reply to you...

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Anti-Marshall 8.h3!?
02/18/03 at 09:01:47
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What should a marshall-player do after:
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 b5 6.Bb3 Be7 7.Re1 0-0 8.h3!?
if he doesnt want to be stuck in the 'real' Ruy-Lopez?  Undecided
  
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