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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #15 - 09/15/04 at 03:06:12
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Hello ChessLover,

1. The critical variation is 16.gxf5 Nxc2+ 17.Kf1 since White is already piece up, exchange sac by the light side looks justified.   17.Kf1 c3 is covered pretty good on the other Rustemov thread. If 17.Kf1 Nxa1 18.Bc3 and the light side has tremendous advantage.  With weak back rank and overworked queen, the dark side most likely must give back the exchange. Finally, it's hard for the knight to extricate from a1.

2. I agree, Your 13.....Qc7 is the best move.  Although, 14.dxc5 Ne5 15.0-0 g6!? 16.Qh3 Nxd3 17.cxd3 e5 18.g4 again!! gives an edge to the white side, of course not like the advantage you get with 13....Qa4?!.

   I thoght  black didn't play 13... Qd8 or 13....Qc7 was 14.Bg5 and black had to repeate by queencheck was the reason why nobody played the above moves. Your 13....Qc7 makes sense. the rook just moves away.

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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #14 - 09/14/04 at 21:22:38
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in the game you quoted

[Event "ESP-ch U20"] 
[Site "Mondariz"] 
[Date "2003.06.22"] 
[Round "2"] 
[White "Fernandez Romero,Ernesto"] 
[Black "Romon Poves,Raul"] 

[Eco "C18"] 

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 Ne7 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 c5 7.Qg4 0-0 8.Bd3 Qa5 9.Bd2 Nbc6 10.Nf3 f5 11.exf6 Rxf6 12.Qh5 Nf5 13.c4 Qa4 14.g4 dxc4 15.Be4 Ncxd4 16.gxf5 exf5 17.Ng5 h6 18.Bd5+ Ne6 19.Bc3 hxg5 20.Bxf6 Qd7 21.0-0-0 gxf6 22.Bxe6+ Qxe6 23.Qg6+  1-0

I think Black simply goes wrong with 16.. exf5

instead go with :
16.... Nxc2+
17. Bxc2 Qxc2
18. Rg1 Rxf5

with posibility :
a) 19. Rxg7+ Kxg7 20. Bh6+ Kf6 21. Bg5+ perpetual draw
b)  the toughest line for Black maybe 19. Qe8+ Rf8 20. Qe7 Qb2 21. Ke2 Rf7 22. Qd8+ Rf8 23. Rab1 Rxd8 24. Rxb2 b6  but Black can hold

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anyway instead of 13... Qa4, I prefer 13.. Qc7 !?

with possibility line :
14. g4!? Nxcd4 ! 15. Ng5 g6 16. Qxh7+ Qxh7 17. Nxh7 Kxh7 18. gxf5 Nxf5  Black is OK
  
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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #13 - 09/14/04 at 17:56:57
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Hi  Grin'
With Timochenko game looking playable. Don't you all need to relook this game below quoted by"Tolotos","Wonderer", and "DOM"? I agree with their analysis. This game probably caused the mass exodus to other French variations. The author of this variation, GM Rustemov, is using "Ft. Knox" as his "A" game defense against 1.e4. It looks very clear the right move is 13.c4!! Qa4 now 14.g4!! The classical King hunt looks decisive with the dark queen on the wrong side. Looking at the comments/replies, couple of people seems to have a refutation or equalizing ideas. To them I say "Show me the analysis". 

[Event "ESP-ch U20"]
[Site "Mondariz"]
[Date "2003.06.22"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Fernandez Romero,Ernesto"]
[Black "Romon Poves,Raul"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C18"]
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 Ne7 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 c5 7.Qg4 0-0 8.Bd3 Qa5 9.Bd2 Nbc6 10.Nf3 f5 11.exf6 Rxf6 12.Qh5 Nf5 13.c4 Qa4 14.g4 dxc4 15.Be4 Ncxd4 16.gxf5 exf5 17.Ng5 h6 18.Bd5+ Ne6 19.Bc3 hxg5 20.Bxf6 Qd7 21.0-0-0 gxf6 22.Bxe6+ Qxe6 23.Qg6+  1-0
  
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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #12 - 09/13/04 at 21:40:16
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Black is ok and hold everything

After
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 Ne7 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. Qg4 O-O 8. Bd3 Qa5 9. Bd2 Nbc6 10. Nf3 f5 11. exf6 Rxf6 12. Qh5 Nf5 13. g4 c4 14. gxf5 cxd3 15. Rg1 Bd7 16. Qg5 Rf7 17. f6 Qd8 18. Ne5 Nxe5 19. dxe5 dxc2 20. Be3 Rc8 21. Kd2

instead of 21... Ba4.

the more accurate is 21. ... Qa5 !

22. Bd4 Rc4
23. Qe3 b6 Black is OK

here is 3 possibility lines :

a) 24. Qxc2 Qa4+ etc
b) 24. fxg7 Ra4 25. Qd3 Rf5 26.Kxc2 Rxa3 27.Kb2 Ra4
c) 24. Rxg7+ Rxg7 25.fxg7 Be8

  
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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #11 - 09/13/04 at 09:58:30
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I think in the Timoshenko game Black was OK but went wrong somewhere in the middlegame...

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 Ne7 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. Qg4 O-O 8. Bd3
Qa5 9. Bd2 Nbc6 10. Nf3 f5 11. exf6 Rxf6 12. Qh5 Nf5 13. g4 c4 14. gxf5 cxd3
15. Rg1 Bd7 16. Qg5 Rf7 17. f6 Qd8 18. Ne5 Nxe5 19. dxe5 dxc2 20. Be3 Rc8 21.
Kd2 Ba4 22. Bd4 Rc4 23. Qe3 Kh8 24. Rg4 Qf8 25. h4 b6 26. h5 Bb3 27. f4 Ra4 28.
f5 exf5 29. Rxg7 Rxg7 30. fxg7+ Qxg7 31. e6 Rxd4+ 32. cxd4 Ba4 33. e7 Qg2+ 34.
Kc3 Qe4 35. Qxe4 dxe4 36. Rg1 h6 37. d5 f4 38. Kd4 f3 39. Ke3 1-0




  
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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #10 - 09/10/04 at 06:03:49
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I disagee - can somebody please provide some concrete analysis of how Black is OK here!! No good saying Black is fine - some proof required, as it stands Timoshenko won a nice game, now we need a defence!
  
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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #9 - 09/10/04 at 06:01:36
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I think Black is OK in the Timoshenko line - Black bishop goes to a4 defending c2 pawn, then there are tricks and play on the White squares.
  
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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #8 - 09/08/04 at 11:14:42
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Yes I have just looked at this line - after 13.g4! the Timoshenko game looks nice for White - what does McDonald say to do against this? I cannot see an easy way for Black.

13.c4 is another line, but for now Black is OK there.
  
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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #7 - 09/08/04 at 05:05:05
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I don't agree at all - 13.g4! is the way to go.
  
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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #6 - 09/08/04 at 00:18:01
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If I don't , somebody else will. Rustemov Variation is under coma. The right move is 13.c4! for white.  Another thread on page 2 of this French Forum discuss this very critical line.
  
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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #5 - 09/07/04 at 04:50:15
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I think Neil McDonald came up with a solution for Black in this game, if it is the same one I'm thinking about - is it:
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 Ne7 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. Qg4 O-O 8.Bd3 Qa5 9.Bd2 Nbc6 10.Nf3 f5 11.exf6 Rxf6 12.Qh5 Nf5 13.g4 c4 14.gxf5 cxd3 15.Rg1 Bd7 16.Qg5

I dont think this line is a worry for Black - check the site.
  
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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #4 - 09/06/04 at 12:13:54
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Is the Rustemov line still alive and well after Timoshenko's game where he won in a game with g4, Rg1 recently. I'm not sure if this game was mentioned on the site at all, it looked pretty dangerous.
  
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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #3 - 09/08/03 at 01:10:43
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Wow...thank you for the link on Hull chess club ! I read about 1% of the analysis and the comments are very interesting.
Sure, I have some remarks (example: Nf5!? instead of Ng6 in the Arencibia line and McDonald's idea Qxc2+, game McDonald-Harley, which seems to transpose to lines analyzed by Hull chess club) but I need some time to read more (and to guess who is annotator Jim).
  

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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #2 - 09/02/03 at 12:55:43
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Check out;  www.hullchessclub.com for analysis and games in this line.

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Re: Rustemov's variation
Reply #1 - 04/12/03 at 04:54:30
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In A) line, those who are interested with 12.Qh5 Nf5 might watch Shirov-Khalifman, Dos Hermanas 2003 (Chessbase site), tournament with chess best result for Rustemov.

The game repeated Sax-Golopashov,Montecacini Terme 1999 till move 21 where Shirov played 21.f6 (instead of Rd1). All the line seems to lead to a drawish final (R+N vs R+N), but perhaps you 'll prefer White.

Campora didn't play the oo-Winawer line against Rustemov but Alekhine's variation (4..Qg4) and perhaps NeilMcDonald will cover it in next update (?). Rustemov played the line where Black doesn't accept the gambit which occurs after dxe4 and Qxd4 (playind dxe4 and not Qxd4 is covered in Keres-Botvinnik, Moscou 1948 classical game) and chose the quieter c5.
  

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C18: Rustemov's variation
04/10/03 at 06:19:24
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Since French forum is quiet, I will just add my own comments (Note: I am a guest, thus I have not read McDonald's comments) about Rustemov's variation in Winawer (subjects of  McDonald's january-february-march 2003 updates).

A) About Sutovsky game in february update:
10.Nf3 f5 11.exf6 Rxf6 12.c4!? (12.Qh5 Nf5) Qa4 13.Qh5 Nf5 14.cxd5 Ncxd4 15.Ng5 h6 16.Ne4 Rf8 17.oo b6! 18.Rae1 (Sutovsky's original move) exd5 19.Ng3 c4 20.Bxf5 Nxf5 21.Re5 Qxc2 22.Bb4 and here I don't see what's bad for Black with 22...Nxg3 23.hxg3 (23.fxg3 Rxf1+ 24.Kf1 c3) Bf5 24.Bxf8 Rxf8 with central pawns offering good compensation for the exchange

B) About Rustemov idea: 10.Qh5!? h6!

B1) 11.Nf3 c4 (11...f6? 12.exf6 Rxf6 13.Qe8+ Rf8 14.Bh7+ is the tactical trick for Qh5 line)  12.Be2 f6 13.exf6 Rxf6 14.oo (14.g4 Ng6! is Kindermann's move given is his excellent book about the oo-Winawer ; 14.Ne5 Nxe5 15.Qxe5 Nc6 16.Qe3 Qa4 17.Ra2 Bd7 18.oo Be8 and the end of opening problems for Black) Bd7 15.Ne5 (15.Rfb1 Qc7 Mecking-Korchnoi,Wijk aan Zee 1978 ) Be8 16.Qg4 Ng6 17.Nxc6 Bxc6 Gallagher-Farago,Hastings 1990 ... and here I suggest White adding threats on e6 pawn with Qg3-Bg4-(f3)-and doubling rooks on e file, and h4-h5 breakthrough

B2) I have not clear view about 11.dxc5! Qc7!? (11...b6 12.cxb6 Ba6 13.Nf3 Qxb6 14.oo Bxa3 15.cxd3 Qb5 16.c4! dxc4 17.Rfb1 Qd5 18.dxc4 Qxc4 19.Bb4 with advantage for White), and any comments about 12.f4 and attack with some moves like g4-g5-Ng5, would be greatly welcomed.

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« Last Edit: 08/03/11 at 20:24:46 by dom »  

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