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Re: Looking for chess models on QGA 3.e4
Reply #11 - 06/19/07 at 21:23:44
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To Botvinnik's: "All Rook endings are drawn" we used to add "Except the lost ones".
While it is difficult to say that a given opening is losing. I'd say that there are more solid, and more positionally dubious openings, but in different times the both lists are quite differently populated. I would not be surprised if in some 10 years The Sicilian would be listed amongst the outright dubious. Still, it is  fun to play it.
  
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Re: Looking for chess models on QGA 3.e4
Reply #10 - 06/16/07 at 18:48:05
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IM Semko:
Thanks for the overview and the amusing comment by Psakhis about openings, which reminds me of Botvinnik's: "All Rook endings are drawn."


  
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Re: Looking for chess models on QGA 3.e4
Reply #9 - 06/16/07 at 15:27:54
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3 e4 is certainly the most sensible way to play chess. Remember Lasker's "Common sense in chess". White should have really strong reasons in order to prefer  3 e3 (why such a move, for god's sake!) to the obvious 3 e4. No matter what theory may say, 3...c5, 3...Nf6 and 3...Nc6 are always difficult to play against GMs. White's centre is always very restricting. Again, 3...e5 is most sound, but it leads to quite open positions and often to endgames - a lot of players (especially these who do not play 1 e4) do not feel comfortably in them. 
Of course, at a very high level, 3 Nf3 - 4 e3 could be more appealing as being more flexible, but the difference is too subtle. As GM Psakhis told me recently, below 2600 all openings are equally good.
  
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Re: Looking for chess models on QGA 3.e4
Reply #8 - 06/12/07 at 11:31:47
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Aronian played 3.e4 at least twice in 2006, and now he has played it twice against Shirov in their Elista match! Theoretically, I think Black is currently doing fine after 3...e5 and 3...Nf6, but of course, that doesn't mean 3.e4 is a bad move! It's just a matter of taste. White has to know what he is doing, but so does Black.
  
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Re: Looking for chess models on QGA 3.e4
Reply #7 - 06/12/07 at 07:13:19
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 08/24/05 at 01:46:57:
I love 3.e3.  The independent lines favor White while the transpositional lines are just fine too.  And I have had rated games that go:

1.d4 d4 2.c4 dc4 3.e3 b5? 4.a4 c6?? and my opponent usually resigns after surviving to move ten. Cheesy

This has happened against players all the way up to Class A level (up to 1985 USCF), but I haven't had an expert fall for this yet.

The main merit of 3.e3 though has to be that it cuts out those annoying 1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.Nf3 a6 variations, right?

In return one is allowing in particular the 1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.e3 e5 line. Sakaev and Semkov seem to think that 4.Bxc4 exd4 5.exd4 Nf6 6.Nf3 Bd6 is quite equal with a bit of accuracy from black, so I suppose that offers the question of whether (a) that's true and whether (b) white has anything at all after 3.Nf3 a6.
  
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Re: Looking for chess models on QGA 3.e4
Reply #6 - 06/12/07 at 02:49:00
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why to play 3.e4? You can avoid positions with an isolated d-pawn

why not to play 3.e4? You have to learn much more theory than after 3.Nf3!
Black has the possiblitiy to play e5, c5, Nf6 and Nc6 with very different and complicated positions!


I once asked GM Baburin for advice on the best line to study for White against QGA (Baburin is an expert on this opening.) His answer and I may be paraphrasing:
"There's nothing wrong with 3 e4."
  
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Re: Looking for chess models on QGA 3.e4
Reply #5 - 08/24/05 at 01:46:57
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I love 3.e3.  The independent lines favor White while the transpositional lines are just fine too.  And I have had rated games that go:

1.d4 d4 2.c4 dc4 3.e3 b5? 4.a4 c6?? and my opponent usually resigns after surviving to move ten. Cheesy

This has happened against players all the way up to Class A level (up to 1985 USCF), but I haven't had an expert fall for this yet.
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Re: Looking for chess models on QGA 3.e4
Reply #4 - 08/24/05 at 00:55:34
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3.e4 is not a bad move by any means. It leads to a lot of fun games with more tactics than the lines with Nc3 or Nf3 or e3 . The young kasparov was a fan of it and those games are truley an inspiration. I learned how to attack when playing d4 based on 3.e4. I thought this is really what the queens gambit should be like. Having the possiblity to actally give up pawn. I also play e4 against the slav gambiting my c pawn. It just depends on taste i guess. If your a swashbucelar then play 3.e4 if your not play somthing else!
  
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Re: Looking for chess models on QGA 3.e4
Reply #3 - 08/07/03 at 05:52:49
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Sorry but if you want to avoid the isolated pawn on d4 quit playing the queen's gambit! I know that immediately e4 is not a good as Nc3 first. Unfortunately I don't remember the analysis but I think there are some problems with defending that pawn.
  
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Re: Looking for chess models on QGA 3.e4
Reply #2 - 05/23/03 at 17:09:02
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why to play 3.e4? You can avoid positions with an isolated d-pawn

why not to play 3.e4? You have to learn much more theory than after 3.Nf3!
Black has the possiblitiy to play e5, c5, Nf6 and Nc6 with very different and complicated positions!
  
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Re: Looking for chess models on QGA 3.e4
Reply #1 - 05/23/03 at 08:26:16
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I did a quick search of my database  from 1998-2003 and found the following.
Dreev-18 games
Karpov- 8 games
Loek van Wely - 13 games
Khalifman - 6 games
Kasparov - 3 -games
 
Hope that helps
  
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Looking for chess models on QGA 3.e4
05/17/03 at 05:50:52
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Smiley Hello !

Who are the leading exponents of QGA 3.e4 variation as white ?
  

48 yo, 1920 elo
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